Question RE: Revenge of the Sith & Palpatine

This may sound dumb, but am I to asume that the great sith lord (Darth Paligius???) Was Palatine's master & that it was Palpatine who murdered & betrayed him? They don't come out & say this but I'm guessing thats what happened. I would LOVE to see a new movie with A young Palpatine & see how he was corrupted. IMO, thats alot more interesting than a young Darth Vader. Since seeing 'Sith' I have become OBSESSED with Palpatine/Ian McDiarmid.

he really was the best thing with MacGregor, doing a dead on Alec Guiness, coming in 2nd

Is it me or did anyone else see a resemblance between "Senator" Palpatine and Senator Joe Lieberman?

that's an even creepier resemblance.

I'm with you - I find him easily the most fascinating and interesting character. Annakin is second, but Palpatine is first.

And yes, I think we are to assume that he is the one who killed the sith lord he was talking about at the opera with Annakin.

MacDiarmid was fucking GENIUS in that role, in all five movies.

He played the part in Jedi so he knew the charahcter pretty well. What i thought was creepy was here we are 20 years later & it looks like Ian walked of the set of "Jedi" & into "Sith" as if no time had passed. The charachter or his performance had aged. The way his voice cracked when Anakin had the lightsaber to Palpatine's neck as he tells Anakin, "I can feel your hate". Just bone chilling.

Palpatine hinted that his master was so powerful in the dark ways of the force he could control the mediclorons & create life. Did he create Anakin? (Anaikin had no father) Did he create Palpatine? Could Anakin & Palpatine be brothers?

I also wondered why Palpatine stuck with Anakin. I mean, he almost dead with his hands & feet cut off, burnt beyond recognition & in alot of pain. I'm sure he would have prefered death. Does it seem out of charahcter that Palpatine would devote so much effort to him at this point? I guess the force was still strong with him & thats what Palpatine saw. Still, it was the only time where we almost saw some compassion with Palpatine. He seemd concerned when he saw Anakin & it looked like he did something to him when he kneeled down & touched his forehead (possibly easing his pain?) I thought it was a nice & settle touch to his charachter.

He needed Vader to merely exist (that whole "Rule of Two" thing) until a suitable replacement came along (Luke).

Don't know for sure, but the way he said that Plagueis even had the power to create life, and the way he looked at Anakin when he said that gave me that idea. That, and that he said that Plagueis taught his apprentice everything he knew.

I think McDiarmid should get a supporting Oscar nod for that, but being that he didn't get a Golden Globe nod, that could be a pipe dream.

on edit: I see you sort of discussed this in a prior post. Opps.

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Palps could feel Anakin's thoughts and fears, and knew Ani's fear of Padme's death. It was his bargaining chip, if you will, to sway Anakin to the dark side. There probably was no way to stop people from dying by using the Force.

What we know:

Sith were extinct for a millenia before the Prequels.

What we don't know:

How Anakin was conceived.
How Palpatine discovered Sith teachings.

My theory:

Darth Plagueis the Wise was able to trap his spirit for anyone who was force sensative to feel it later at some sort of focal point for the force. Exar Kun managed to do this, and was revealed in Kevin J. Anderson's Jedi Academy trilogy. I believe that Plagueis did the same and Palpatine mearly stumbled upon his spirit to help guide him to ancient Sith teachings.

/nerd

I am a Star Wars nerd, I don't care, make fun of me all you want.

I just didn't find the reasons for Anakin going to the dark side convincing. So what if one of his mentors said, "I'm a Sith! Join me!" Anakin would have been taught for years that the Sith were evil.

How would any of you respond if a mentor of yours said, "I'm a freeper! Join me! I know what your visions mean and I'm the only one who can save your love!" Your response would be "Riiiiight. See ya!"

If I could do a redesign on Episodes 1-3, I'd do it like this: Episode I starts with Anakin at about age 12 or 13 and had Padme be 16, and the daughter of a senator, not a senator herself. 3 year gap in age. Stupid to have a 6 year old doing all that crap. And meesa thinks Jar Jar would have never never have seen screen time. That character didn't have to be annoying and goofy to carry out his function. And I would have changed the battle droids. They looked goofy, too, with goofy voices. And the Trade Federation wouldn't have sounded stupid. And we would have seen a lot more of Darth Maul. Surely he could have kicked several people's asses besides Qui-Gon.

Episode II starts with Anakin at about age 20. Padme's 23 and a senior senatorial staffer. Besides that, the movie was OK, except again, the wasp people looked like crap and the droids were still goofy. Gotta say that Mace Windu and the purple lightsaber kicked ass.

Episode III could be with Anakin at age 24 or so, with Padme at age 27. You could have put a slightly older actor and actress in there - I'm thinking Ashley Judd for Padme. Anyhow, I'd change this plot completely. Here goes:

The beginning of the movie starts with newly elected Senator Padme and the Chancellor kidnapped. The Jedi go after them, and Padme is seriously injured during the rescue attempt. During her convalescence, it's found out that she's pregnant. The Jedi figure out that the father is Anakin and as a result they suspend him from Jedi active duty or whatever you want to call it. He's sent to some kind of Jedi monastery or whatever to atone. In the meantime he's forbidden to see Padme. THEN he has the visions of Padme dying. He insists on seeing her. The Jedi refuse. Anakin quits the Jedi order. Palpatine steps in, seeing the opportunity. Anakin starts to learn the Dark Side stuff. It could have been really cool to see some training sessions. Padme's health takes a turn for the worse and Anakin is only able to see her last few seconds of life. The Jedi, sensing the Dark Side in him, hide the twins from him, telling him that they're dead. Anakin returns to Palpatine, swearing eternal vengeance on the Jedi, and Palpatine hides him, anticipating his use as a weapon. Then as "General Order 66" is executed, it's Anakin who leads the slaughter in the Jedi Temple.

It makes more sense to me that way!!