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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:34 PM
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What do you think of using a credit card to play online games?
I was so proud of myself yesterday morning connecting my son's PS2 to our wireless network :-)

Now I learn that all his friends who play online play at a level that requires credit card verification (there's no charge it's to keep cheaters and disruptors out).

My first reaction was a big NO but I'm usually such a rule-follower and maybe I need to loosen up and this is not as big a deal as I'm making it.

My son is very trustworthy - I know he wouldn't start downloading billable content, so that's not really an issue.

What would make you feel secure about entering your credit card number into a PS2?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:02 PM
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1. Do you have to enter it into the PS2 or can you go online
NOT wireless but connected online and enter the data on a website.

I would assume that if the wirless network is secured then the credit card data would be encrypted and not accessible by anyone not on your netowrk.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 06:40 AM
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3. I've been looking for someplace to do it online and it doesn't
look possible.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:11 PM
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2. I think that you're insane
The slippery slope...
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 06:42 AM
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4. Really? I'm a parent, that means I'm always on a slippery
slope. Unless of course I say NO to everything.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:01 AM
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5. If the card had a limit of say $1.
I might actually use it for that purpose then. Otherwise, I'm not big on using a credit card at all if possible. I especially don't bank or do bills online. I just don't trust hackers.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:21 AM
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6. Have you thought about buying one of those Visa gift cards
Put like 20 bucks on it...I would think the online service might take it.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:26 AM
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7. I think that might be the way to go though on principle I
hate that you have to pay more for them than the dollar value and they start charging if you don't use it by a certain time. I assume they all work that way.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:28 AM
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8. I know, that part really sucks.
Another ponzi scheme for corporate Amurkkka.

I think in many states there is legislation pending that would eliminate the expiry on them though.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:57 AM
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9. If it's the same game
I'm thinking of, it's okay to use your credit card. I did it about two months ago, with no repercussions. Just be sure to tell your son to treat the girls who play with respect!
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:14 AM
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10. Socom 3? n/t
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:40 AM
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11. Yup, that's it.
And I've had no problems.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:59 AM
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15. Thanks. My son respects ability whether it's boy or girl and
since he's a newbie you'd probably be running circles around him anyway:-)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:45 AM
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12. What game is this?
It seems bizarre that they want your credit card and yet they are charging nothing. Many sites track cheaters through their IP addresses.

I mean, I have no problem paying a fee if it's a game I really like but in general it seems odd. Mind sharing the game - I'm good at sniffing out this stuff.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:53 AM
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13. Sony maintains their own network for the PS2
I wouldn't worry about it. The information won't be stored, for example, in your son's memory card, or on an accessible part of the PS network.

I must admit that as a longtime player of networked PS2 games I wonder what game they have that requires CC# verification? Can you tell us the title?
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:55 AM
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14. Socom 3 and thanks your message was reassuring. Sony
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 08:56 AM by HopeLives
claims they've had 100,000 players verify with cc.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:03 AM
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16. I just downloaded and read the entire manual of the game and... (edited)
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 09:06 AM by BigMcLargehuge
it doesn't say anything anywhere about CC#s for verification. If you go here

http://us.playstation.com/Content/OGS/SCUS-97474/Site/main.asp

and click on "Game Info" you can read the FAQ and download a PDF of the manual.

Why does your son think he needs a CC#? Have you seen a screen pop or something that asks for it?

ON EDIT -

I found a forum discussing this very issue. Apparently the CC# is to age verify the players (or establish permission for the kids to play) and allows the Sony network to track the players Clan (if they are a clan member), rank (which they get for completing missions), and buddy list.

Here is the discussion -

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=shooter&message.id=52469
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:05 AM
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17. You can't have a friends list or clan if you don't verify with a cc.
He can play online now but he is playing with strangers, all his friends play together in a clan (I think).
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:07 AM
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18. I've a link in my edited post above that gave me the same info
Sony uses a closed network, so PC based players, for example, of games that have PS2 counterparts, don't play on the same network. I would assume that it is more than relatively safe.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:09 AM
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20. OK, thanks. I think we're posting at the same time. n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:26 AM
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34. You are correct about this one.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:09 AM
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19. It isn't really age verification though, they know kids are
getting their parents cc's.

The buddy list and clan is what is important to my son, and honestly I'd rather have him play with kids he knows.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:12 AM
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21. yes, the credit card number allows them to verify a username
so that the database can track progress, link buddies, and match groups with their specific clan tags.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:36 AM
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23. This can be accomplished very simply with no CC#. Each copy of the game
has several unique numbers, any of which could be used to verify player (really it verifies the DVD being used).
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:23 AM
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22. Now lemme get this straight, you buy the game station, you buy
the accessories, you buy the game, and then you pay to play? That is insane. I am an on-line gamer myself (PC), but I've never paid to actually play except in tournaments (which pays us when we win, like a bowling league). Wow, what a rip off.
On the topic, your CC# is as safe as it is anywhere, which is to say, not very. If you do on-line purchasing at all you run a risk, but no more than say Amazon or Priceline.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:39 AM
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24. You're not actually paying to play although there are
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 09:47 AM by HopeLives
hints that they may offer enhancements (not fixes) to the game that would be billable.

There are some game consoles (I think X-Box) that playing online is pay to play.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:46 AM
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27. X-Box makes sense because it's M$. I play the greatest on-line
games for free through my PC, and the console players suck. This is doubly crappy because I was thinking of getting the PS3 when it comes out. :(
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:56 AM
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28. My son is desiring the PS3 too, not interested in the X-Box.
He got another online game - World Series of Poker, I think and that doesn't require cc verification. I think Socom 3 is the only game that requires it. This is the reasoning:

"More than 100,000 players log into SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy SEALs everyday to play. As fans of the franchise know, it's no fun playing with cheaters and those who try to exploit the game for their own advantage. To address this in SOCOM 3, we are using a common practice of requiring verified accounts for players who choose to participate in features such as ranked games and clan challenges.

The main reason SOCOM 3 verifies accounts through a credit card is to encourage unique accounts and fair play (no cheating or exploits) in ranked games and clan challenges."

http://socomblog.typepad.com/socom/2005/10/socom_3_no_chea.html


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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:07 AM
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29. Tell him to get Call of Duty 2. It's a better game and much more balanced
play. SoCom is just a military recruitment tool (I think it was originally developed by the US Army).
Brothers in Arms is different (more realistic, super-soldiering will just get you killed) but very good too. :freak:
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:19 AM
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30. I will suggest it to him, but this really is a hanging out with
friends thing. His hockey teammates and his poker buddies all play Socom.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:49 AM
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31. Just had another thought. If it is only SoCom that requires the info,
and it is a recruiting tool developed for the military...

Cpl. Flanker says "Gotcha"
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:21 AM
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32. That is a very interesting idea. n/t
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:42 AM
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25. Some game stores sell cards for these networks
similar to a gift card or phone card. If you are worried about putting your CC number out there, you can try one of these.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:43 AM
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26. Thanks for the idea. n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 11:24 AM
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33. I have let my son use mine for over a year.
No problem with it.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:06 PM
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35. Thanks. I just found out he got a Simon gift card for Christmas
so he's going to try that first. If not I think I'm OK with the cc.
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