Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Hey, Lounge. Check this out.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:27 PM
Original message
Hey, Lounge. Check this out.
This is a great idea. I signed up. Effortless and feels good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5672092
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. Well call me stupid
but I don't understand it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I didn't either.
But I think it runs a program in the background of your computer that does mathematical processes for this project at Stanford University.

Read Will Pitt's question and the answers. That is how I understand it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Hope this helps
Distributed Computing involves using computers from around the world to run calculations, simulations etc. Projects such as Folding@Home use spare computer cycles to run calculations and simulations to further their knowledge and research.

Users can help by installing a program onto their computer that will download data and then use spare cpu cycles to run the calculations. The results are then fed back up to the computers at the main project site. Researchers can then use the results to further their knowledge.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. Call me suspicious.
There are enough people trying to peek into my life. I certainly don't need to give someone the key to the front door.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. If you go to the site at Stanford, I think your fears will be
put to rest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
18. more info on safety
Security of the FAH client/DC is very important to the Pande Group and they have designed the FAH DC as secure as feasible - crypted downloads/uploads, file checksums, ... Because of it the FAH client should not reduce the security of your computer.

The FAH client does not collect any personal information from your computer - there is no need for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Rest assured, this is as safe as the safest software out there
After the initial client is installed, all Stanford will send you is a work unit that is only a few kilobytes in size, everything is encrypted and checked to be sure the content is from Stanford.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Don't be ...

You've got more to worry about being using a web browser than doing this.

All it does is download a program tailored to work on a set of calculations, which it does in the background while you use your computer normally, then sends the data back to a central location when it is done. Then, it gets another work unit and starts again.

I've been doing things like this project for a very long time. I've never had a problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:02 PM
Response to Original message
7. I'd do it, except for one thing: I shut my computers off when
I'm not using them.

It's a terrible waste of electricity not to do that; I think the savings in energy usage are more important in the larger scheme of things than even such a noble undertaking.

Redstone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I disagree ...
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 10:13 PM by RoyGBiv
Doing something like this actually has the opposite effect in that it utilizes your CPU's wasted cycles, of which there are billions upon billions over the lifetime of a computer.

The biggest energy hog with your computer is the monitor, and the monitor doesn't need to be running for this.

Regardless, the work itself is being done, and the work is incredibly worthwhile. Whether that work is done on one computer or a million computers, the energy usage will be comparable. It just will take less time if it is done on millions of computers.

And, finally, you don't actually need to have your computer running all the time. The work unit will take up where it left off if you stop it and then restart it again, and as mentioned originally, if you're running it while your computer is drawing power, you're allowing your wasted CPU cycles to be used for something other than burning energy that does nothing.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. But I don't have any wasted CPU cycles.
And one word will explain that: Photoshop.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone else from doing this; if your computer loafs along all day with only a Word document or an Excel spreadsheet active at any given time, which I suspect is fairly common, do join the program.

Redstone
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. As we speak......
I'm surfing the Web, playing MP3's and editing Holiday pics in Photoshop Elements. No problem whatever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Another word ...
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 10:45 PM by RoyGBiv
Nope.

Photoshop executes tasks that momentarily tax the CPU, but not for long. In fact, Photoshop taking up 100% of the CPU cycles is considered a problem and was actually a known bug in some previous versions.

The only time my system even approaches using 100% of its clock cycles is when it is rendering a video or music file, and even then it is not constant. Photoshop's usage of CPU time is rather minor by comparison. (As an aside, when I first started doing this, I found it rather disconcerting that my CPU usage was *always* at 100% simply because that never happens. I keep an app running that displays a graph of CPU usage on my desktop, and I'm accustomed to it showing a wave, not a solid line locked to the top.)

Everyone has wasted CPU cycles.

In any case, if you don't want to do this, that's fine. I'm just saying that the reasons you stated previously don't really apply.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. I doubt you use more than 25% of your capacity
seriously
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:34 PM
Response to Original message
11. Done
Way cool:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. we're up to 27 computers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #20
27. we have 34 computers - need more to catch FREERers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Up to 45 team computers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:48 PM
Response to Original message
14. Just my opinion, but I won't do anything that will benefit the
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 10:53 PM by qnr
pharmaceutical companies. That has been my position on folding@home for years (though I never try to dissuade anyone else).

Edit: I am a big fan of distributed computing, but I go the SETI and Climate route.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #14
21. C'mon, we could possibly help find a cure for cancer
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
15. FREEPERs are winning this battle - we need more CPUs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
17. IMAGINE . . .
There are thousands of computers owned by DU members around the world. While they do many productive things, the majority of the time these computers run screen savers or sit cold and alone waiting for something to do. This is a tremendous waste of computing power.

Just think of what all of these idle computers could do if they combined forces and were put to productive use 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Download the software and sign up on the Folding@Home website: http://folding.stanford.edu

DU's team number is 48157
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
19. Kick for evening crowd -
Kick for evening crowd -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 10:32 AM
Response to Original message
22. Kicking for a good cause.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #22
26. kicked -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
23. Kickin' for the Friday Night Lounge Lizards.
You Know Who You Are.

More CPUs!!! Let's kick this project into High Gear and wipe the Freepers' mocking smiles off their faces.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. kickin'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:47 PM
Response to Original message
24. I do something similar
We support it at work and I have it run on my work PC.

It really is a wonderful thing to do with your PC.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #24
25. Join the DU folding@home team then
at least for 50% of available capacity
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 08:02 PM
Response to Original message
30. Was the original thread deleted?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Nope. It was moved in the general refurbishment of the GD Forum
done for the New Year.

Check your Inbox for the new link.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ny_liberal Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. found updated link - thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 11:02 PM
Response to Original message
33. We're up to 48 CPUs on the DU Team!
Rockin' and Foldin' -- look out Freepers!

More CPUs!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Kick! CPUs... must have CPUs!!!!!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 02:16 PM
Response to Original message
35. Kickin' for the Monday afternoon cube rats.
:)

:kick:

C'mon, DUers! More CPUs for the team!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nedbal Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
36. New thread --- #2 ---- it grew too BIG ---- Need for CPU POWER
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 10th 2024, 11:51 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC