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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:39 PM
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So are we living in Terry Gilliam's "Brazil"?
OK so we got the ministry of torture...check
A huge government bureacracy that will never admit failure...check
The masses living in a state of denial...check
The labelling of anyone who disagrees with protocol as a terrorist...check
A government which drowns out all dissent...check
A system which reduces all of us into mindless drones plodding away at tiny computers...check

Scary...but the shoe fits...
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:40 PM
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1. You left out the Brazilian joke.
:hi:
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:41 PM
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2. At least I dont have to share my desk
with the guy in the next cube. yet.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:42 PM
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6. I wonder how much better Corp.s would do if the CEOs had those
decision making lever thingies.

Seriously from the upper managment that I have met it would make much of a difference.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:31 PM
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20. There was an episode of Rocco's Modern Life about that...
a character gets a job at Conglom-O, a huge corporation. They try him out as a very junior manager. He doesnt know how to make decisions, so he uses a magic 8-ball to make them. In a couple weeks, hes a very senior VP, everyone is amazed at how quickly he can make decisions.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:41 PM
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3. The computer fills in for the TV screens showing Westerns
Funny how Gilliam guessed right on that.

What are you and I doing right now?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:41 PM
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4. Considering people are officially employed in "Information Retrieval".
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 01:12 PM by Prag
I'd say that's a *big* :thumbsup:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:42 PM
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5. Ahhh yes wasn't the Ministry of Torture actually called
The Ministry Of Data Retrieval? hmmmm?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:04 PM
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17. Oh, wait! I'm in "Data Manufacturing".
Got to get those statistics up!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:45 PM
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7. Excessive plastic surgery?
you should have seen whatever the hell that was on The Wheel of Fortune last night. It was "Soap Star Week" and they had some beast on...this woman was actually weird looking I think she was on that Dancing with the Stars show for a while too. Don't know her name though. WOW!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:47 PM
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8. CHECK!!!!
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:49 PM
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9. Definitely check.





Which is real, and which is from the surrealistic movie?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:10 PM
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18. Brazil is why I will never get plastic surgery
:scared:

However, I don't think the US is quite like the movie, otherwise.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:50 PM
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10. I've got to see this movie.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:51 PM
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11. Yes
You must - trust me on that.

When I saw this film back in 88 I was thinking how horrible it would be to live in that world....

You've come a long way baby...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:53 PM
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14. BANNED in the US
want to know why? Necrophilia is mentioned just mentioned.

It is a must see. Gilliam was dead on with this one. Dinero plays a small but very important role.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:55 PM
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15. I'm not sure it was banned...
Although Gilliam had to pull tooth and nail to get it released. Originally, Universal was not going to release it...but then he snuck it into the lineup at the Film Reviewers festival and they declared it the best film of 1985. Universal was then shamed into releasing it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:57 PM
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21. Some interesting and FUNNY trivia here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/trivia

This one killed me

In the autumn of 1985, Terry Gilliam and Robert De Niro appeared on Good Morning America to help promote, and talk about, this film, which was finished but not yet released. Terry Gilliam was struggling with the studio and the studio head (Sid Sheinberg) quite publicly. De Niro never usually makes television appearances to promote his films, but helped Gilliam out and made his first and only television appearance promoting a film. According to Gilliam "Bobby said very little, he was talkative that day so we might have gotten him to ten words." Then, Joan Lunden asked Terry Gilliam, "I hear your having trouble with the studio, is this correct?" Gilliam responded with "No, I'm having trouble with Sid Sheinberg, here is an 8x10 photo of him," and showed the entire nation his photograph. Sheinberg was reportedly furious with this incident, and it helped Gilliam get the release of the film done the way he wanted.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:59 PM
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22. I have a lot of respect for Gilliam...
He knows the game.

I bought his book on "Animation" years ago...

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:03 PM
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23. Gilliam is a genius
Even his not so good movies like Brothers Grimm and Baron Muchausen (sorry fans, I thought it was one of his weakest) are hands above any of the crap the studios release....
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:33 PM
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25. I really hope "The Man Who Killed Don Quixote" gets made
You'd have thought after the success of Lost In La Mancha financing would be forthcoming.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:29 PM
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19. Not banned.
It was just on Cinemax a couple months ago.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:19 PM
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24. It's not banned - you can buy the Criterion version.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:42 PM
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27. Not banned - although it had huge trouble & some Americans have only seen
a totally massacred version (nicknamed "Love Conquers All").

There's a decent history here:

http://www.rotten.com/library/culture/brazil/

& this site has a good run down of the different versions:

http://www.trond.com/brazil/b_faq03.html
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:52 PM
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12. Don't fight it son. Confess quickly!
If you hold out too long you could jeopardize your credit rating.

Need I say more?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:52 PM
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13. you mean theres another book out there that will scare me?
I am just recovering from reading 1984...
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:56 PM
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16. Oh yes
Except we're already there now....Imagine Kafka, Orwell and Monty Python all coming up with a movie...but then it turns out YOU'RE in that movie...
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:35 PM
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26. Yes ... or ... No ...?
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