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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:12 PM
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Mad Cow in Alabama.
Anyone else thinking seriously about giving up beef? How could something that tastes so good potentially be so bad for you?

I might as well give up beef, because I wouldn't enjoy eating a steak and then wondering if I'm sealing my fate with each bite. No more hamburger, period.

What about other meat eaters in DU? Are you considering giving up beef, too?

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:16 PM
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1. Okay, Maddy. I'm in Alabama, I'm mad... But don't call me a cow.
(Had a nice Sirloin earlier this evening that had been marinating in Dale's sauce and mesquite all day... Yummm).

*twitch*
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:17 PM
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3. Tom, you stud bull!
:D

I had a ribeye night before last and a sirloin today. *spasm* *stumble*
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:17 PM
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2. I just wanna live so I can get the final season of Blake's 7 on DVD.
I'll be content to die after July.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:18 PM
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4. LOL!!
I'm living for the next season of HBO's Rome, which is scheduled for 2007.

:hi:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:21 PM
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8. LOL
Dunno why, but I chuckled at your response. :D

:hi:

But I think you have more to live for than I. :)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:24 PM
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12. Nah, friend.
Just imagine the partying that we will do on the day after general elections for the Senate this year. Party, Party, Party. That and having a new Democratic president in 08 makes me want to stay around at least for the rest of this decade.

:D :hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:19 PM
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5. Not me, I love beef.
No silly ole mad cow will make me give up a good steak.

:D

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:21 PM
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10. Is there anything better?
Sex, MAYBE, but I don't know--it's close. Maybe steak and then sex on the same night. That's the perfect date! :D

:hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:24 PM
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14. Exactly!
:9 Sugah, if I was worried about things killing me, I wouldn't be living where I live, I wouldn't ever leave my house and I definitely wouldn't smoke.

You can have my alcohol, you can take away the car keys and I'll even consider giving up the smokes, but don't you dare try to take away my steaks or my roast beef poboys or my greasy cheese burgers.

:hug:

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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:19 PM
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6. For real?
God damn.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:22 PM
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11. YEs. Third confirmed case in the US.
One was an imported cow from Canada. Second was Texas, and third was Louisiana. It's in LBN tonight. :scared:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:25 PM
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16. Damn it.
I don't eat tons of beef, but I do enjoy a good hamburger. I don't think I'll cut back though, we're all gonna die eventually. Might as well enjoy my time here and eat what I want.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:29 PM
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23. Ok, I'm not saying this to gross you out.
But hamburger is the most dangerous "mad cow" food you can eat. Cuts of meat that are not near the spinal area are much less dangerous...

I'm thinking about buying a meat grinder and making my own burger meat from roasts or other cuts. You can get them for pretty cheap. Around $70 or $80 for electric ones.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:31 PM
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26. You can buy the hand grinders for like $10 in an antique shop.
They usually work pretty well too.

I'm thinking that grind your own, 100% organic fed beef is the way to go, if you're gonna do beef.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:33 PM
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28. My dad has a hand-crank grinder...it's an antique...he used to use it to..
make sausage when we were kids.

I had not thought about using that!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:11 AM
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34. you will REALLY appreciate your burgers after hand grinding!
Seriously, the odds are so low - check the cdc website for some good info, buy local from somebody you know etc etc etc
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:19 AM
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33. My daughter purchased one for me at an antique shop
It was very thoughtful of her, but unfortunately, it did not work.
The connective tissues or fibrous tissues became entangled in the grinder repeatedly.
Oh, and the meat counter person had advised me on the cut to buy for use with a manual grinder.

Someday, I will get something decent to do the job.

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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:32 PM
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27. Meanie!
:P



We buy organic hamburger, which I think is safer? Right?.... Right?!!?? :o
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:34 PM
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30. Certainly should be.
I'm going to start visiting the butcher in the neighboring big town...it's a 30 minute drive, but well worth it.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:21 PM
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7. Have given up meat for some time (again...)
Back to being an ovo-lacto vegetarian

And don't you think if that cow were in CA, it would at least stand a chance of being a Happy Cow?? :silly:

Some kid in my area actually wrote several LTTEs to the local paper that the Happy Cow ads were bad because the cows here really stand in shit and mud all day, and are largely ignored. The kid was very serious and very upset.

The reponses to her LTTEs were hilarious!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:25 PM
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15. You know, I need to go back and read FFN again.
Fast Food Nation.

I gave up all beef after that book. I seriously need to read it again.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:26 PM
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19. Or "Diet for a New America"
It'll make you stop eating for a week. :puke:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:26 PM
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21. I'll see if that's in our university library.
Thanks for the rec. :thumbsup:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:21 PM
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9. I've cut way down,
but I may give it up entirely. Of course they're likely to find something equally as bad about chicken, etc.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:24 PM
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13. like bird flu?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:25 PM
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17. yup.
glad I like vegetables. :think:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:26 PM
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20. i like veggies too but a dead animal is needed for me to enjoy my meal
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:30 PM
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24. Nah, I'm down to eating meet about 10% of the time.
Tofu, tempeh, beans and rice, eggs, nuts, cheese -- I don't miss meat when I do leave it out. :shrug:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:26 PM
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18. Yeah. Pork will be the only safe meat...
unless it's undercooked. The critters that can get you from undercooked pork are heinous.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:29 PM
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22. I gave it up protestingly
Yes, I like to eat cow. Hamburgers, steak, beef stroganoff and french dip sandwiches with real cow and real cow juice. However, chicken sandwich with jalapeno peppers is pretty good until there are no chickens left or they get too expensive to eat. Then grilled cheese with jalapeno peppers or portabella sandwiches adding a piece of brie for that extra special taste. I was sick today, ate 1 canof mushroom soup and fruitjuice and all that sounded pretty good.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:30 PM
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25. I've heard a lot of vegans talk about portabella...
is that a good thing to grill or to use as a hamburger substitute? I know that it's not hamburger-like, but is a portabella sandwich good?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:34 PM
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29. I buy them at Costco so they are affordable, and yes they are good
Marinate some in something, I use simple italian salad dressing, then put on the grill gill sides up. Take off, slice and yum. OK, now for sandwich: melt a bit of butter/margarine in a pan, put mushroom in gills up, put a bit more margarine/butter on gill side, and a bit of garlic, cover with lid and let it cook for 10 minutes or so. I like salt on mine, but MrUP doesn't. I like garlic but teenUP hasn't. They are also good to use for stroganoff in place of beef, cut in half then in slices so it looks the samish look, they don't cook down like regular white mushrooms do.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:35 PM
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31. THANKS!
I might give that a spin this weekend--on the grill.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 12:09 AM
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32. Was that Jeff Sessions?
Oops, I forgot. The article said "mad cow disease", not "mad cowboy disease."
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:30 AM
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35. Made it that far south, huh?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:37 AM
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36. Bird Flu vs Mad Cow
I think I'll eat fish, wait there is mercury in that too. I think the phrase eat drink and be merry is now more apapro than ever.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:44 AM
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37. I'm not giving up beef.
This cow is old enough to have lived before the feed ban. Also, I don't eat cows' brains or other organs. All in all, beef is pretty damned safe. But, if you're not into taking chances, buy organic beef.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:48 AM
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38. I ate beef right through the British B.S.E. outbreak.
I'm still eating chicken and other birds, I didn't give up eggs over salmonella.......
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