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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:16 PM
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Question for guitarists . . . .
I went to an estate sale last weekend. The deceased was 91. He had inherited some stuff from his brother who had been in the musical instrument business back east a long time ago. I bought this guitar for $100. It was in a box and still in the guitar case. There is a packing slip dated 1958. Does anyone know anything about this guitar?????
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:17 PM
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1. Right offhand, you paid about 1/100th of what it's worth
in mint condition. I've seen that axe before, but I can't name it. It came out originally around the same time as the (in)famous Flying V.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:19 PM
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2. I agree with the above poster. Lock it in a safe too.
:popcorn:
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:20 PM
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3. I would guess you paid far less than its value
A gibson that novel and that old has to be worth some cash.

It doesn't have a name plate, I gather?
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:20 PM
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4. dupe
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 07:21 PM by darkstar
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:21 PM
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5. No.
It just has a serial number of 002. ????
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:25 PM
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8. SERIAL #002?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
JEEBUS CREEPING SHIT. THAT is TREMENDOUS.

You got a helluva deal. You may want to contact Guitar Player magazine-- seriously. They would probably do a feature story on it, I shit you not.

I would get several appraisals and then INSURE IT and put it in a climate-controlled location. If it's still in the case (AND the original box!!!!), you are looking at solid five figures for it.

I would re-case it ASAP, and keep it under lock and key. You could very well pay for somebody's college education with that guitar.

I'm looking for more info on it, too. I'll let you know what I find.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:29 PM
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9. Holy crap.
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 08:15 PM by darkstar
I'm starting to think you might really have something. I mean, if there were even 2000 of these made, what would be the odds that you had number 2? I'm far from the biggest guitar expert on this board, but I've been playing long enough and reading mags and such to be surprised to see such a novel body (i.e., I'd remember if I'd seen it) from Gibson, Fender et al. I used to own a Flying V about 20 yrs ago, even, and I am quite sure I've never seen a picute of this guitar despite my interest in Vs.. I *might* recognize the name, but I doubt that as well...

Congrats....
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:32 PM
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11. gotta see the wiki stub on it
here it is:


The Gibson Moderne electric solid-body guitars appeared at the 1958 NAMM trade show. It's body was made of korina and featured an elongated bass side(similar to the Flying V's), and scooped-out treble side. Along with the Explorer and Flying V, the Moderne was to be part Gibson's 1958 Modernistic guitar lineup. However, there is no conclusive evidence that any Moderines actually shipped in '58. Ted McCarty, the guitar's designer, was quoted as saying that four or five prototypes were built.

Gibson reissued the Moderne as the "Moderene Heritage" in 1982. Only 500 were produced.


If it really is #002, it was probably one of the prototypes. Good god. Screw college, you could retire in style with this one-- if it really IS what it is.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:39 PM
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15. No shit....
I mean, IF that is #002 of the prototypes--not the reissue--well then, wow...

Oh yeah, just remembered you said it had 1958 slip inside...

Wow.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:43 PM
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16. Also, according to wiki
the guitar's designer, Ted McCarty, passed away in 2001 aged 91. He also went on to serve as president of Bigsby (the tremolo makers) and also worked with Paul Reed Smith.

If this is truly #002 from 1958, I bet Gibson would probably pay a pretty penny for it to add to their collection. According to what I've read, there aren't ANY '58s still in existence.

Damn
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:22 PM
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6. Holy Moses on the half-shell...
I wonder how much GE Smith would pay you for that? You scored big time.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:25 PM
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7. Bullshit?
that's a 1958 Gibson Moderne.

If you are not bullshitting us, then you have yourself a nice retirement plan...

RL
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:29 PM
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10. The wiki article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_Moderne

According to the article, none of the original '58s left the factory. And they only made 500 of the re-issue in the 80s.

:wow:
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:33 PM
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12. Are you off for smelling salts or what?
Floog?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:37 PM
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13. check her for some info
http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson.html#col
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:39 PM
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14. If you're gonna store it, detune it
Take most of the tension out of the strings. Don't take any chances on warping the neck.

Dude, you've got a lotta guys here eating their hearts out. :thumbsup:
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:45 PM
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17. BULLSHIT I say





Lookie here. From an image seach. Saved it to your photobucket did ya? Thought we wouldn't find out?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:46 PM
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19. Sounded too good to be true
Oh well, a little excitement on a Tuesday night is fun
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:47 PM
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20. I was going to call bullshit but not for that reason. Floogeldy would
know something like this when he saw it.

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:05 PM
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23. BUSTED!...
Yeah, and aliens came to my house and gave me this guitar: :rofl:
<- 1958 Fender Broadcaster
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:46 PM
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18. HERK! HOLY FUCK BATMAN!!!
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 07:57 PM by ZombieNixon
Serial number TWO?!??!! TWO?!?!! :wow:

I'm busting a herking code brown over here! Why couldn't it have been ME!! :cry:

:wow: :wow: :wow:

Edit: Floog, you're evil. :grr: And I'm gullible. :blush:
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:51 PM
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21. I bet David Gilmour would buy that guitar from you!
:wow:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:52 PM
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22. Nice...this is the guy to talk to
http://www.normansrareguitars.com/

He's respected worldwide when it comes to appraising vintage guitars
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:15 PM
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24. Sure...
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:48 PM
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25. I got a 1965 Fender Precision at a yard sale for $35.
And that's the truth. Also a 1949 Fender Pro for 100 bux. So suck on it for fucking with us!

:wagging finger gif:

:D
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:59 PM
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26. What is the point of this thread?
I may be a guitarist, but I'm not a sucker.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:06 PM
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27. Seriously.
What kind of douchebag makes shit up like this?
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:10 PM
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28. It's the Lounge. My God. How seriously do people take subjects bull
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 10:11 PM by Crazy Guggenheim
shit more than that in GD.

:popcorn:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:12 PM
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30. There's an art to hoaxing.
Just ask Alan Abel.

This was graceless.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:15 PM
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31. I know Floogeldy and tell he was kidding - almost - right away. But
I do agree in part with Redstone's post.

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:16 PM
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32. This hoax is on par with LoZocolo's Oasis fellatio
That's not praise.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:20 PM
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34. Or Cuban Liberal/Padraig18's existence
ugh!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:23 AM
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51. Coincidence?
I always wondered whatever happened with CL. It's a sure bet he never quit posting here, under whatever names, sock puppets, etc. He always did like fucking with people. *cough*
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:25 PM
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36. In his defense, LoZoccolo almost always has something
interesting to say in GD or GD:P. The Oasis stuff was tiresome (after the 56,982nd post anyways), but at least he made up for it by being an astute commentator in the "Big Person" Forums.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:07 PM
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47. Ah, bullcrap.
Those Oasis posts are BORING.

My post is fascinating and interesting! :)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:19 PM
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33. Only the vinegariest
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 10:20 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:12 PM
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29. Ahem. Mr F, I think you stepped on your dick this time.
Not nice to fuck around with your pals like that.

Redstone
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:54 PM
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44. Oh, trust me . . . .
My dick has been through a lot worse than this. ;)
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:24 AM
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53. Surprised you have one left
Maybe you don't. :shrug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:31 AM
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54. You don't know the half of it.
It's amazing. ;)
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:23 PM
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35. BWAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I so GOT you with this phoney story. :rofl:

Heh. Sorry. I couldn't help myself! :scared:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:27 PM
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37. People, it's FLOO.
Of COURSE it was fake. Jeez.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:29 PM
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38. U gotta dig this chick.
;)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:39 PM
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39. Hee. Nice story, though.
Excellent details, good characterization. :D
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:42 PM
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42. Gracias, Senorita.
;)
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:40 PM
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40. Well, if I didn't think you were an arsehole before,
this removes all doubt.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:41 PM
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41. Good.
I'm glad. ;)
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:48 PM
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43. Hey Floo take a look at this!
http://www.democraticwarrior.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=3334#3334

:popcorn: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :applause:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:02 PM
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45. holy shit
you stole that off the estate sale people!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:06 PM
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46. Easy, baby.
It was just a little friendly joke. :scared:

The myth/legend of the 1958 Gibson Moderne has been the fantasy of guitar collectors for decades. If someone were to actually find one, if one is really out there, they could name their price.

Fun!
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:57 PM
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48. I'll trade you for my Fender Broadcaster!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:05 AM
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49. Oh, baby!
Stephen Stills has lots of money to give you for that. ;)
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:07 AM
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50. And he's not getting it, either
Unless he turns over his CSNY royalty money:)
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:03 AM
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52. Please dont take this the wrong way.......
You lucky,lucky bastard....all the best.
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