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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 12:59 PM
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DUers: What's your take on synaesthesia?
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 01:49 PM by Beware the Beast Man
For those who've never heard of it, here's some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaesthesia
http://www.retroglobe.com/liljeberg/syn.asp


Basically it's when one sense triggers a response in another sense. For example, if you visualize a number 3, you see the number in your mind as being orange (like I do). Or, if you hear a particular musical note or chord, it triggers a sense of feeling (you don't literally "feel" a C#, but you would percieve it as maybe "round" or "fuzzy."

For years, I mentally associated numbers with colors. It wasn't until four years ago that I knew it had a name, and that it was a relatively common phenomenon. What say you?


Numbers, as I visualize them:
0- black
1-white
2-red
3-orange
4-green
5-yellow
6-lavendar
7-blue
8-purple
9-gold
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:02 PM
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1. Huh?
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 01:02 PM by madinmaryland
I always visualize the number three as "3". People actually visualize a number or letter as a color? :wtf:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:03 PM
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4. Yep.
Strange but true.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:02 PM
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2. dolo is the queen of synaesthesia.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:04 PM
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5. For real, or is there some innuendo I am missing?
:shrug:
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:16 PM
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17. In *you* endo, man.
:grr:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:18 PM
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20. Endo?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:00 PM
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38. Yeah, you know, like Endo Calrissian.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:52 PM
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41. Choice.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:04 PM
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6. I am?
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:15 PM
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16. You are.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:27 PM
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23. Oh. Ok then.
:crazy:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:39 PM
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31. You two and your intimate marital conversations...
:eyes:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:02 PM
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3. I've heard about it, but I don't know where I saw that. I feel it stinks.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:15 PM
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15. hehehehe
nice :hi:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:04 PM
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7. I think I found the roots of my synaesthesia with letters.
A = red
B = orange
C = blue
D = green
E = blue
F = purple
G = red
H = orange
I = white
J = green
K = blue
L = purple
M = red
N = orange
O = white
P = yellow
Q = blue
R = red
S = red
T = yellow
U = yellow
V = green
W = blue
X = black
Y = red
Z = purple

You can basically see that with some exceptions, it largely cycles through the colors of the rainbow. I had a set of Fisher-Price magnetic letters that cycled through the rainbow like that. So that's where I think it came from.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:09 PM
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8. Here.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:14 PM
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11. That's definitely possible.
It could definitely be a throwback to early childhood development. Perhaps children subconsciously come up with mnemonic devices to help them learn letters & numbers and such. I'm not synaesthetic with letters myself. I usually just visualize them as black and white.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:36 PM
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30. damn! that's fascinating to think
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:12 PM
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9. I associate your posts with a big pile of doody.
'cuz that's what I smell whenever I see your name.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:15 PM
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14. I assocate your tongue with my yambag, dickeyes.
:hug:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:16 PM
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18. I associate your yambag with the color purple....
Beacuse of that three way we had with Prince.

:hug:
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:13 PM
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10. Vaguely remember it from a psych class
I don't think I have it, though. Well, words have color to me, but it's somehow different than synaesthesia.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:14 PM
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12. I think it's fascinating, simply fascinating.
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 01:19 PM by redqueen
I first heard of it a decade ago when I met someone who experiences it - associates musical notes with colors... he thought he was crazy but I was (of course) instantly curious so had to look it up... he was relieved to find out he wasn't crazy. :)
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:15 PM
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13. Hey, what do you know. I do it with days of the week:
Monday: red
Tuesday: light blue
Wednesday: purple
Thursday: brown
Friday: also light blue
Saturday: yellow
Sunday: green

It sounds odd, but I vaguely remember in pre-shool learning the days of the week and the squares on the calendar were those colors. Except Tuesday and Friday. That's Mr. Rogers' fault. (see, the king & prince in the land of make believe were named Friday and Tuesday and they lived in a light blue castle.)
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:57 PM
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37. That is cool!
See my above post to LoZoccolo- I do believe that it may have to do with using memory devices in early childhood.

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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:16 PM
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19. Adults typing in baby talk actually makes my skin hurt.
I doubt that's the same thing.

I think J once told me he associates notes with colors.
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:22 PM
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21. synaesthesia is an abomination
People with this curse should be burned like the witches they are! :P
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:29 PM
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25. Stalin and Vlad the Impaler both had synaesthesia.
It's dangerous stuff!
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:35 PM
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28. The name Cathy always tastes like butthole to me.
:P
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:51 PM
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35. Snap!
Funny, When I hear someone say Beast Man, it always makes me see a guy sleeping on the couch tonight.}(
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:52 PM
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36. Yeah, that's because you snore loudly when you drink, sweetie.
:evilgrin:
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:05 PM
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39. I can handle my drink just fine!
:toast:

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:25 PM
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22. Synaesthesia is SO fascinating.
When I first read about it, I was like: that's SO cool! I'd want to do that!

And isn't it considered to be something that actually could/does happen? :shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:28 PM
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24. It's not considered to be, it does happen.
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 01:28 PM by redqueen
Lots of people experience it.

I used to have a link to a test... hmmm

ah yes here it is! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/derek_prog_summary.shtml

enjoy! :hi:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:29 PM
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26. Yes, it does happen.
It's not a literal fusion of senses, though. For example, if someone hears a G Chord, they don't literally "see" it, but it may trigger a mental image of a particular color, shape, etc.

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:34 PM
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27. I wonder if "auras" might actually be a form?

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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:35 PM
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29. Music references
Olivier Messiaen was one of the most important composers of the 20th century (tjwmason says so too). Like many intelligent and educated Frenchmen, he was opposed to the Nazi occupation of France, and fought in the resistance. They caught him and interned him as a prisoner of war. As it happens, they had a "special" POW camp for intellectuals, which they ran as a showpiece for the Red Cross. Messiaen encountered three other internees who were world class musicians, playing clarinet, violin, and cello. (Messiaen usually identified as an organist, but could also perform on piano.) He composed a piece for that ensemble, Quartet for the End of Time, and performed it in the camp-- it's an amazing piece of music, and single-handedly made the clarinet-violin-cello-piano ensemble a major contender in contemporary chamber music.

But the real point is, while he was there, he observed that conditions in the camp were fucking up his health, and one of the effects was that he began to experience synesthesia. Some of his chords elicited distinct color images in his mind, and he mentions them in his notes in the score. What's more, the relationships with color apparently persisted, because he continued to bring it up in subsequent compositions.

Also, Alexander Scriabin planned to stage concerts of his music where colored lights would be projected on stage in sync with chord changes in the music. He proposed a correspondence of specific colors to specific keys. This was maybe a hundred years ago, well before rock videos.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:42 PM
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32. I have occasional fits of synesthesia with respect to music.
For example, piano music in D minor is usually dark blue. Some tenors sing in yellow. Hard to explain, but there it is.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:44 PM
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33. love your sig
shoulda been a bumper sticker about 20-30 years ago
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:48 PM
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34. Thanks.
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unsavedtrash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:35 PM
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40. my ex does this and we recently found out that our niece does as well. n/t
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:56 PM
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42. Oh, Yes I Know What You Mean!
I visualize the twelve months of a year as being a 12-hour clock. And within that clock face, the seasons are different colors. Winter is blue, spring is green, summer is red, and autumn is brown.

:hi:
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