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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:15 PM
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Should "prog" and "art rock" be lumped together?
There are two movements that usually get lumped into the same musical genre.

One is progressive rock, or Prog. Pink Floyd, Yes, Rush and Genesis are Prog bands.

The other is art rock. Spock's Beard and Alamaailman Vasarat (it means "Hammers of the Underworld" and is a Finnish instrumental band with no singer) are art rock bands.

I like Prog but find Art Rock unlistenable...is it just me?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:24 PM
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1. Yes.... you can never have enough subgenres in Pop Music
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:57 PM
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2. I thought Spock's Beard were prog
and I always thought stuff like Talking Heads was art rock.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:46 PM
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3. I think they should be separate but there are bands
that blur the lines like The Mars Volta. They rock! Spock's Beard really isn't art rock to me. It's pure prog, but not my favorite kind of prog. I am more into the heavier end of prog rock.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:52 PM
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4. No. Both genres blow dead goats
The only true music is Norwegian Death Metal.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:55 PM
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5. Dimmu Borgir
anyone?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:00 PM
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6. Norwegian Death Metal...
... is dead. It deathed itself to death. It is no more. It is an ex-genre.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:07 PM
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7. Genres..
... in pop music have always been problematic. The need everyone has to put every musical artist into some kind of pigeonhole is doomed to fail.

Take for example some of my current favorites. They've invented a genre called "IDM" or Intelligent Dance Music to house these artists, but in the case of most of them, you couldn't dance to the music if there was a gun at your head. Not everything that has a beat or that is essentially beats-based is danceable.


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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:33 PM
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8. prog could be a subset of art-rock
my husband says the term "art-rock" is essentially meaningless, since so many groups and types of music could fit under that umbrella - Eno, Can, King Crimson ( could go either way), the Velvets, etc, just to name a few.

I myself always thought of art-rock as smarter and more avant, whereas progressive can be endlessly noodly and self-indulgent. Hard to say.


I know a few folks who could give you an earful about it - I'm sure you'll hear from them. :)


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