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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:38 AM
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I can't wait until death.
Maybe I'm crazy, I don't know. I am 31 years-old and looking forward to death. Although I pray that it won't be a painful death. I simply see it as a release from the burden of living. A journey forward... finally I will find closure and peace... finally I will find a respite from worry and grief... finally I will find true rest.

Am I alone in feeling this way?
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:40 AM
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1. Well you are just going to have to wait, because we still need you for
something.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:43 AM
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3. Yes, I suppose that's why I'm still here.
I seem to be on some type of path. Where the path will lead me, I don't yet know.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:46 AM
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5. Everyone's path leads to the same place, it is the journey that makes
the adventure; would be a shame & a waste to cut it short.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:49 AM
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6. Certainly. I don't know if mine will be cut short or not.
I just sort of walk forward... I take advantage of every turn. Not to get too metaphorical, but if the road bends, so be it. If the road ends, so be it.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:54 AM
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7. A philosophical frame of mind, such is life in that taking the less
travelled road will be revealing; Death, however, has been done to death.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:42 AM
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2. I don't feel that way at all
In fact, I was saddened that you don't enjoy life. Lately, as I have seen people close to me grow ill, and several people I know have died, I've been thinking about how short life is...and realize there are still things I'd like to do. For one thing, I have a few countries to visit still!

I truly hope you feel better about life soon. Sometimes, it's amazing what difference a day can make. Here's hoping for a better tomorrow for you...and hugs...

:hug:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:45 AM
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4. I didn't mean to give the impression that I am not enjoying my life...
perhaps the pain of memories still lingers... but it's that finally release - that respite - that I crave. I've done a lot in my 31 years. Perhaps my life is not yet complete, but if it were to end tomorrow I would not mind.

Thanks for the kind words. :)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 02:30 AM
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8. "death is such a primitive concept.
I think of them as battling evil in another dimension." Grigg

Are you sure there is going to be a respite? :evilgrin: "there's the respect that makes calamity of such long life ..."
But I like to say, darkly humourously "You never want to pass up a chance to die. You might not get another one."
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 02:57 AM
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9. Someone great once said:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:01 AM
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24. Wow. March Writer waxes poetically!
June Writer, on the other hand, just finished her Master's and is a bored, but obsessive thinker. Maybe she thinks too much? ;)
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:36 AM
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33. June Sugar is made of alum
with lemon squeezed over it.

;) :pals:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 03:10 AM
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10. Thinking of it as peaceful is all well and good, but if you ever find
yourself considering suicide, please seek help. Even if it seems like a lovely idea.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:03 AM
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25. No worries here at all.
I've had my moments in the past, but I'm fine. Just a bit philosophical.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 04:29 AM
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11. Not alone at all.
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LordshipLadyship Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 05:22 AM
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12. No, but you're young
You don't understand what life is. How important it is, so full of promise. How short. What I like is that you're thinking, using the little gray cells, some people go through life like they are dead already.

Worry and grief are tough things, but they are proof of our humanity. This administration has twisted all our lives and placed priority on greed and profit and power. They appear to be winning at it, and thats maddening and frustrating for me, and others.


I come to the lounge because dealing with some people make me more nuttier than I am, and I find so much in here to make me laugh and restore me. Love for one another. Sharing. Dreaming. Teasing. A glimpse into other lives. What LIBERAL means. Okay so I do miss sex threads...mod pigs censoring the people, grumble (GRIN) (My wife always says no sect and sax threads) heh

the lounge is like a living example of Lennon's poem

Imagine
John Lennon
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

To take a page from CalPeg's book:

My dear Writer, there is beauty around the bend, and there is beauty in you now, you're just in a moment where you can't see it. You don't need to stop turning the kaleidoscope because often what you see is ugly. Be patient. You could never understand what lies in you and in life. Don't close the door yet. Rage, rage against the dying of the light for the others who can not.

There are people right now all over this world suffering or being killed for a madman's whim, and sick people who would give anything for one more minute of life even though their physical and mental suffering is terrible. Consider that maybe you can live for them.

My wife and I have been in your shoes before, we have chronic illness of different physical and mental kinds, I dealt earlier yesterday with the damn fibro, dropped in my tracks with horrible pain had to go to bed drugged to the gills, and we have to deal with fools that make life miserable, (my wife teases me that it isn't that I don't suffer fools gladly, I shoot them and move on. (grin) I don't quite think I have the pacifist business down yet Mr. Lennon, heh ) I know death seems like a release but life is more important.

Mr. Ladyship :hi:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:03 AM
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18. Mr. Ladyship I cannot begin to tell you
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 10:03 AM by auntAgonist
how awesome your post, and Peggy's writing are, they really touched me. Just know that it's timely and most appreciated.

:hug:

aA
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LordshipLadyship Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:06 AM
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26. I was engaged in pen to pen combat with a Christian earlier
over my reaction to a photograph of dead Iraqi children.(this was before Haditha) She informed me it was fake because dead don't look like that. Thus began world war three, four, four and a quarter..roughly about 600 e mails back. I was a tad pissed off. Just a tad. See, I cried when I saw the photo. She just remarked it was fake. (my wife knows how I get about this war, she hid under the bed with a food and water supply to avoid crossfire) I digress, what I wanted to say is THANKS, a person posts because they want to be read I often am not because the wife and I are new on here, and they want to make a difference in people's lives, and to be mentioned along with Peggy! ( respectful bow and chant in peggy's direction). I got told by this Christian things like war is inevitable, (yeah, with YOU, lady ) and we're all getting raptured in the end so it doesn't matter. I'd like to speed up the process for her with a two by four (I'm sorry, Mr. Lennon, I know, I know, you preached bed peace, I'd like to hit her with the bed, I know, I try..)) I almost left DU over that whole Rove indictment thing, but it's too addicting and too good and it started me DUing polls and writing e mails and being the annoying liberal that I am.:evilgrin:

Thank you so much, your words touch my heart too aA :hug:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:15 AM
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30. Ladyship...
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 11:17 AM by Writer
your earlier post was very beautiful... and certainly CaliPeg's beautiful soul appeared once more.

What's so remarkable to me is how limited many minds are - so bound by the material. I wonder if they've ever laid in the grass and watched the stars? If they have, they'd realize just how small they are in comparison to the beauty of greater nature. It's remarkable to me how capable the human mind is in callously disregarding human life while accepting the peaceful teachings of Jesus. If they took a moment, and instead of encasing themselves within the man-made pages of a book, studied the God-made beauty of nature and the heavens, then they'd realize the truth of God and Christianity: that it dwells within all of us, and all things around us, not within dogmatic word and doctrine.

That person you communicated with needs an awakening.

edit: typo
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:33 AM
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32. Welcome to DU .. you and your wife!
I love it here and don't always get responses to my threads or comments either but that's ok.

I hope you stay here a LONG time :)

being an annoying liberal is far better than being a mugwumper imho. (mugwumper= someone sitting on the fence with their mug on one side and 'wump' on the other)

aA
:hug: for you and your wife.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 07:27 AM
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13. you are not alone
death is the ultimate...the end all of the be all...not to be...THAT is the answer!!!
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 08:55 AM
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14. You can't wait six months?
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 08:58 AM by leeroysphits
I'm just kidding. I know where you are coming from tho...

I'm 35. When I think about trudging through life (you know unfulfilling job, mind numbing daily grind etc...) for another three maybe four decades(!) I do sometimes cringe and wonder if it wouldn't be better to "check out" at forty. It gets worse when I contemplate that most of those few things I do get any enjoyment out of will go away or become more difficult to come by over time (with age).

But 18 months ago my son was born and I love him and he pleases me. I've decided that I want to take the time to make sure I've done all I can (not much I suspect) to give him the best start in life possible.

I still feel like I'm just trudging along an un oiled tread mill but at least I now have a compelling reason to stick it out and if I'm lucky, over time, my outlook may change or life might improve in some way, who knows?

I'm not suggesting you run out and have a child! But maybe you could just keep an eye open for some compelling reason or excuse of your own to try and "stick it out" and given the extra time this buys you things could get better. You never know what's gonna happen down the road.
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:05 AM
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15. You're not alone. I've had stages in my life when
I looked forward to death with curiosity and excitement. I haven't been depressed at such times, but rather feeling philosophical and calm. Getting older though, and in light of the fact that death is inevitable, I've decided to enjoy the here and now as best I can and save the death-dreaming for later on.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:06 AM
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16. not at all
I long for the comforts death will bring me. The world is a terrible place and not worth living in.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 09:51 AM
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17. the only thing that scares me is that there just might be an afterlife
I mean, who knows what happens to your consciousness when you die? Only the dead, and they're not telling. If I knew that death meant an end to this fucking pain and nonsense, I probably would have offed myself a long time ago. I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one...

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:12 AM
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20. Hamlet, yes...this thread needed Hamlet and not just my
feeble attempt to misquote him, thanks anarch!!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:08 AM
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19. Will be a bummer if
Edited on Wed Jun-07-06 10:09 AM by swag
Eternal Return kicks in on you, huh?



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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:32 AM
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21. You should move to Cleveland.
It's effectively the same thing as being dead, and there's always room for one more here. :hi:
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:53 AM
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23. lol nice one
How's life in the "Big Plum?" (remember that one?)

I see the Thanatos urge is strong here. Well, one way or another, you will find it. But, as another poster intimated death may not be the release, climax or gateway to freedom that you expect. Then again, it may be so after all. Who knows?

My advice: seek the freedom and release you desire here and now.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:07 AM
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27. LOL
:rofl:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 10:35 AM
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22. you are NOT alone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:09 AM
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28. Not me, cool. Every day is full of pain for me, but that doesn't
stop me from enjoying each day.

I'll take the pain, thank you very much, because at least I'm alive to feel it.

Redstone
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:09 AM
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29. I can't speak for anyone else, but...
I sure as shit don't feel that way.

I mean, seriously? You're looking forward to the end of your existence? That makes zero sense to me. Something, no matter how bad, is better than nothing.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:15 AM
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31. "Am I alone in feeling this way?"--Yep.
Any day above ground is a good day.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 11:59 AM
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34. Death doesn't scare me at all
Dying, on the other hand, makes me a little nervous. Not being here to see my son grow up and live his life, that bothers me.

I suspect that we are genetically driven to do everything possible to stave off death, but in reality, it's an irrational fear.

There's nothing more certain in life than death, so it's a good idea to get comfortable with the concept as soon as you can.

I don't think it will be a time of rest, however. I do think it will be a transition, and that possibly it will eventually become boring enough that some of us opt to return. It's the old "grass is greener on the other side" syndrome.

I think it's a mistake to think that death ends our problems, but that's just my personal speculation, obviously.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 12:07 PM
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35. Are you single? And, no, you are not alone. And you have a choice as to
when you want to do it too.

The books and writings are out there. Until they ban libraries and "certain topics", the information is freely available on how to exterminate yourself painlessly. Well worth the read, but even I (and who on DU doesn't know what a whiny wuss I am, right A...) have chose the high road and continue living and improving myself...

I recommend you hope for the best despite it all and continue to look for the light at the end of the tunnel. I have, and I have more going against me right now than you ever possibly will.

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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-07-06 01:25 PM
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36. "She is not single," says Mr. Writer.
And I'm not seeking suicide at the moment. It's more that I look ahead and see death and feel a sense of hope.
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