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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:54 PM
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I want more Amway horror stories.
Give me now.

There's this woman I work with who gave me a free can of Xs energy drink. I told her I didn't like it! Ha ha ha ha!

More recently she gave me a protein bar. I didn't even get back to her on that one!

Now Richard DeVos is running for governor in Michigan. This woman who came on to the bus a few weeks ago (cute) was unusually talkative and started talking about how she used to live in Saginaw, and then her boyfriend moved up here (ok, that shut it down right there), but she followed him later when an "opportunity" opened up. Then we started talking about how it's hard to get a job in Michigan right now and she said that Richard DeVos was running for governor and was going to fix all that (like he's gonna win). It didn't occur to me later that maybe the reason she was so talkative was because she wanted to get me into Amway or something, maybe that was the "opportunity". Or Quixtar or Alticore or whatever they're disguised as now.

What is funny is I never had anyone try to sell me any Amway products, nor try to get me to be a distributor, the whole time I was growing up in Grand Rapids, which is near the Amway headquarters.

Anyways, I think Amway horror stories are funny. There often seems to be this tacky element to them which is amusing.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:56 PM
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1. Here's last year's thread.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:19 PM
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2. My stepfather used to sell Amway.
That was before he met my mother. Anyway, he had all these creepy "motivational" tapes from Amway all over the house. My mom made him get rid of them. Not really a "horror" story, but it's the only one I have.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:22 PM
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3. Former Amway CEO is running for governor in Michigan
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:43 PM
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4. Oh Yeah
This guy stretched his spiel out over a week before he finally told me what was up. I was really pissed, I thought I was getting an opportunity to do something interesting.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:48 PM
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5. Had dinner with my ex-fiance several years after breaking up with him.
He was in town and invited me. I went to dinner with him because I wanted the chance to apologize for breaking up with him -- if I'd broken his heart. I don't know if I did but I wanted to apologize.

So we get to the end of the meal and he leans over the table and looks me in the eye and asks earnestly, "What are your aspirations for the next five years?"

Seems he'd made a trip from Idaho back to So. California, where he'd gone to college and where we met, to hit up his old buds to see if he could pull 'em all in on his Amway train.

:puke:

I dropped money on the table and got up and walked out. Sans apology.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:56 PM
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6. Here's one from a big convention/rally in Houston a few years ago:
I saw some Amway distributors in the convention center's huge underground parking garage sitting in their Cadillac (it's important to have the right car when you're building your business) eating bologna sandwiches for their lunch.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:52 PM
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13. Oooooooo DANG!
That's pretty rough. Good story though! :thumbsup:
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:56 PM
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7. You sell your soul to be an amway success
Friendships and business relationships are to be used.

Once had both a friend and business colleague call me about doing some high level consulting. Trusting as I was and wanting to set a high atmosphere I invited him home to dinner. Put out quite a spread. After dinner this "friend" spend two to three hours talking about this great opportunity. Finally it dawned on me that he was pushing amway. I was livid, asked him to leave and that ended any further contact I had with him. Just shameless.

To me amway is all about screwing people. This devos creep will feel right at home with his chosen party.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:07 PM
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8. I had the misfortune to speak to a SCAMway salesman
They are downright creepy. It's like these people are in a cult.
They'll talk for hours without telling you what they are trying to sell and they do it with a strange look in their eyes.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:18 PM
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9. I just noticed something about the ads that appear above this thread.
They keep hawking stuff about how to protect your family from terrorists.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:37 PM
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26. It's MLM crap now.
Sometimes those google ads do work out funny though.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:15 PM
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27. The home typist one is possibly a real pyramid scheme.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:24 PM
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10. I once worked p/t for a guy who owned a local cleaning service,
and he tried to sucker my husband and I into selling Amway. We declined, but the guy was always overly nice to me, and for as long as I worked for him, my husband would tease me and say that my boss wanted to steal me away and make me his "Amway Queen.":puke:
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:56 PM
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11. My husband hasn't talked to his father in years because of Amway.
Mr. P and his father had a rocky relationship to begin with, but Mr. P's father called a few times and wrote trying to "mend fences". This went 3 or 4 times back and forth till it comes out that Mr. P's father wants to mend fences to get Mr. P recruited.

Six years and counting.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:00 PM
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12. Hello fellow Grand Rapidian
:hi:

I don't like Amway and Dick DeVos scares me. To make things worse his dad used to work with my late grandfather, even offered a business partnership with him. Grand dad turned it down though.

Blue
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:05 PM
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14. one of my favorite
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 09:07 PM by grateful581
I went to a amway meeting about 8 years ago and they were saying that their spray cleaner killed aids on contact.
These assholes thought you could get aids from a door handle.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:11 PM
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15. I don't doubt that it would work.
But so would regular bar soap and water:
http://aidscience.org/Newsarticle.asp?Article=3581
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:29 PM
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29. well considering what some of them might just do with doorknobs...
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:30 PM by QuestionAll
maybe they could get aids from them.

especially if they share them...kinda like junkies and needles.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:13 PM
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16. Our church minister got fired because some of the congregation
decided to join the cult. They dragged him along, and he ended up without his job!

The whole church was in an uproar, and half the members left. Presbyterian churches are not usually known for cult scandals, but this was a doozy.

You tried to talk to the guy about baptizing your kid, and he was trying to sell you on Amway. :dunce:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:20 AM
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17. Interesting analysis of some person's bad experience.
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:43 AM
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19. I was just reading this site
http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/amcult.html

They have a very long breakdown of the techniques these creeps use.

sleep deprivation, disorientation, and sensory overload

At the functions themselves (which start around 7:00pm on Fridays and 4:00pm on Saturdays), distributors listen to Diamonds' speeches. These speeches come in two varieties: 1) "our story"- this is when the Diamond tells the audience the story of how he became a Diamond. The point to this story is to teach the audience that the Diamond was once "human" like they were. This is related to the idea of the cult of confession. And, 2) "teaching" type- this is when the Diamond shares the "secret techniques" he that helped him become a Diamond... implying that the same techniques will work for the audience. And, yes, the "teaching" is not much more than "read more books, listen to more tapes, and attend more functions."

During the middle part of the evening (around 9:00pm or 10:00pm), the audience is given a "break" from the speeches when a live band comes on stage to sing a few songs. After the audience has practically become "numb" from the information they are trying to absorb, the band serves to further disorient with its loud music and flashing lights. After the band is finished performing, the speeches continue. At most functions, these speeches last well into the morning hours of 1:00am, 2:00am, or later. There are even stories about how Dexter Yager has been known to hold small, private meetings with people until 6:00am or 7:00am the next morning. Remember that these same people have to get up to eat the included-in-the-function-ticket breakfast served at 9:00am... and to attend the morning session at 11:00am! As a side note, most of these people who stay the night with Dexter usually claim that Dexter's speech "made more sense than anything I've heard in a long time." (actual quote) Then again, if anyone listened to one person lecture for 8 or 9 hours non-stop, they too would think is was "the best speech" as well!

At some point in the evening (around 11:00pm or later), the speakers on stage would yell, "Is anyone tired yet?" The response, of course, is that the audience wants to hear more. Saying you are tired is not acceptable, and if a distributor left the function to go to sleep, he would be labeled as someone who wasn't serious about building the business. And if your up-line believes that you are not "serious," this would, in turn, lead to less support. Around 2:00am, people are so exhausted and overloaded with information that they would agree to almost anything that is being said. After the entire weekend is over, most distributors are pumped with so much information that they are ready to sponsor everyone they meet. Are they excited that they just learned some great, new "sales technique" for selling Amway's products or are they excited about getting more people to "a function like this one?"

Of course, there is nothing wrong with motivating people at a weekend function, but do those people have to receive sensory overload from the combination of speeches, the live band (complete with flashing lights and loud music), and more speeches? Could the same amount of information be given in less amount of time, so people could analyze the material received? Or is the information not to be analyzed too deeply? Would the people in attendance find that they have heard the same information many times before on many of the audio tapes or other functions... and not have paid to attend this function?


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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 09:31 AM
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18. It's a cult
Many many years ago, I was recruited, but didn't last long because a) I figured out in about 2 weeks that all the actual money to be made was from the books and tapes you have to buy to keep your brain minty-fresh, b) I went to a couple of large meetings and the pseudo-patriotism and knee-jerk 'I love Jesus' crap freaked me out, and c) sitting at dinner one night, I realized I had agressively nothing in common with those people who wanted to get rich so they could buy Winnebagos and tour the country like their Great Leaders - I don't know about you, but I'd fly first class, fer christ's sakes.

Anyway, I figure I got off easy. I have no idea what any of those people are doing now. Chances are that those who stayed got their lives completely destroyed.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:36 AM
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20. My Amway Story...
I work for a company that puts on audio-visual productions for corporations. Amway came into one of our venues, ordered equipment and labor for one of their distributor recruitment type events. They wouldn't put in a credit app so it was COD.

So we went in, set up all of the equipment and asked for payment. What I found interesting was the people in charge of the meeting were all extremely well dressed, very cliquish and conspiratorial. Like they had a big secret amongst themselves. All this time people are lining up outside the doors. These people are the exact opposite of the organizers. Working type people who you knew didn't have to spare nickels in their pockets but were there with their spouses wanting a better life and hoping that Amway would be their way out. It was kinda sad knowing that of the 200 or so people paying to attend, maybe 1 would ever make any money with Amway and the rest would just be enriching the assholes putting on the meeting. Very Sad.

So to continue my story, our pleas for payment were met with "The man with the credit card/check is on his way from the airport" and other stalling tactics. By this time they're letting people into the hall. It's going on 15 minutes till the meeting starts. Time for action so I went up to the head asshole in charge and told her that if we didn't get payment right then that all the equipment would be struck immediately. Boy the dirty looks and credit cards came out quick. The lady even had the gall to comment that she thought it was disgraceful that we wouldn't "trust" them to pay the bill. I called her card into the office to get it authorized (which just pissed her off more), had her sign the contract, gave her my biggest fake smile and wished her a good show and left immediately.

We've had the same experiences with Melaleuca distributors and other multi-level marketers. As a matter of fact we call them MLM shows and always get paid in advance. They're all slime.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 10:46 AM
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21. Melaleuca
That kind-of reminds me of "mekka-lekka hai mekka hainey-ho".
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:33 PM
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22. They're coming back!!
I think I read that Comedy Channel was gonna be rerunning PeeWee's Playhouse! Had some good Saturday mornings with PeeWee, Captain Carl, Clocky and the gang.

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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:22 PM
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24. Cartoon Channel, not Comedy Channel, will be showing Pee Wee's PH
sorry for the threadjack
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annonymous Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:21 PM
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23. Years ago I was invited to a party that turned out to be Amway.
It seems Amway distributors like to throw parties under false pretenses. This particular party was hosted by someone I knew at work. I also got invited to another party that turned out to be a Mary Kay recruitment. In both cases, I told the people involved that I absolutely hated sales work.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 05:26 PM
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25. i thought a married co-worker was inviting me home to 'fool around'...
and i ended up at an amway meeting.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:16 PM
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28. I thought that was Confederated Products, not Amway!
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 06:17 PM by LoZoccolo
(If you don't get it, I don't want to give it away!)
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