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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:24 PM
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what's the point of no return after you break up?
My girlfriend and I have sort of broke up before and this time it seems more permanent. What's the point of no return, either something you do when you feel like you can't go back or the other person could do to make you not go back?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:30 PM
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1. Someone else enters.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:08 PM
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7. yeah, that's usually closure for me
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:33 PM
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2. The point of no return is when we've broken up.
I might go back and forth forever on the decision, but once's it's made, it's done.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:33 PM
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38. Bingo
Yes, I've broken that rule before, and yes, I regretted it every time.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:57 PM
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3. For me, it's the moment of breakup.
I don't care if she dumped me or I dumped her or it was mutual, but once is enough. There was a reason we broke up and it's not going to go away. When that "I'm done" moment comes, it's over. More than one try is too many. Not to say we can't still be friends (I'm still good friends with one ex in particular), but no more messing around.

That's how I work, anyway. :shrug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:59 PM
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4. I concur. There are times to be forgiving, and times to see it won't work.
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 09:59 PM
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5. Yet to reach it.
A person can take a lot of abuse. I'm thinking if he cut my head off, then I might not want him back.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:08 PM
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6. you're not going anywhere if he cuts your head off
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:12 PM
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9. Okay. You have a point.
Immense self-pity today. Tomorrow can only be an improvement.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:19 PM
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11. why are you in some abusive thing?
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:25 PM
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14. Oh, long dull story.
I think he's mentally ill. Confused at best. Love him. Screwed. Ya know? But nothing physical so no worries.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:11 PM
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8. the only point of no return I've encountered
is the loss of trust

when you no longer feel that you can trust her, it's over
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:13 PM
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10. You've done it before?
Once, many times?

Either way, I think it begs a lot of thought on your part - either you're not sure of what you want/where you want the relationship to be heading, or perhaps the breakups add a bit of spice to a stale relationship?

Only you can make that decision, what is the 'point of no return'. :-)

(personally, it's when the split occurs)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:20 PM
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12. I'm a sentimental idiot, so if someone comes back, I generally won't turn
them away.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:23 PM
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13. That depends. What are your personal goals?
:)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:39 AM
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31. I hate being the "breaker," so I don't want to move on to soon, but
since then I've had a brief exchange with my ex and that made it feel more definite.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:32 PM
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15. How old are you?
:)

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:55 AM
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23. almost dead. 42.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:33 PM
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16. They go gay on ya....
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:49 PM
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19. Yeah, that's a sure sign...
:rofl:

RL
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:59 PM
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22. That's unfair
I never went gay on anybody. I started out that way.....

Now how do I convince you boys can be fun? Lost cause, huh?

:)

Khash.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:08 AM
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29. okay, you're gay and your ex goes straight on you
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:08 PM
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37. Oooh don't even go there!
That's exactly what my ex did to me. Didn't want to be gay, got himself some Viagra and a woman he might see twice a year at most. (She was too smart to fall for that and told him to fuck off)

It's one of the reasons I call him "The Ratfuck Bastard"


Khash.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:06 AM
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26. funny story like that. My friends tried to set me up with this girl...
They invited both of us to a dinner party, but only told her about the potential hook up.

They didn't tell me until after I was there, so I was kind of embarrassed and didn't make any move.

I did ask my friends for the girl's phone number though.

A few weeks later, I got up the courage to call her. She sounded kind of confused and said no.

I thought that was odd since she had agreed to the earlier set up, so I asked my friends about it. They said in the time it took me to get up the courage to ask her out, she had realized she was gay and in love with her already gay roommate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:08 AM
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28. Lost another one to Gaytech.....
Seriously, one of the girls I dated from long ago left me for a woman....

It was probably for the best...

But man, for a gay gal she sure like hetro sex...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:10 AM
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30. I was sure the girl who dumped me in high school was a lesbian because
she played softball and was kind of a top.

A couple of decades later, I found out she got married and had a kid.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:35 PM
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17. After you have him arrested by local deputy at point of
shotgun, in handcuffs...
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:58 AM
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33. laughing...
yes, I guess that would do it.
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siouxsiecreamcheese Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:44 PM
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18. for me
I start feeling like there is just nothing left between us two.. I just ended an 8 year relationship about a month ago and every day I start to feel more and more on my own, but in a good way. like I'm free again.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:21 PM
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20. The 'okay, let's get it ALL out in the open' discussion ...
Happened for me and the second husband YEARS after we'd actually split up. I don't know what triggered it, but we got into that discussion about, "Okay, what you NEVER knew was going on when we were married ..."

We talked about the affairs we'd had while married to each other, the things about each other we'd always pretended we liked (but actually LOATHED), what we REALLY thought about each other's best friends, parents, siblings, etc.

Once it was all said and done, we KNEW there was no chance of ever getting back together again as a couple.

But that was ALSO the day we started being friends who could really talk to each other, so it turned out to be the best thing that could have happened.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:07 AM
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27. it's kind of weird how rarely friends and lovers are the same people
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 11:54 PM
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21. When she askes you to move out bacause your living with her ...

makes her new boyfriend jealous.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 12:58 AM
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24. Infidelity
You always think you can fix it, but you can't. You just can't.

Once trust gets wounded like that, it can seldom be restored. It dies a slow, painful death. So, it's better to just put it out of it's misery.

The relationship, I mean. C'mon, you know what I meant.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:47 AM
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32. Infidelity could do it, leading to the breakup and finalizing it,
as could the other person being with someone else after you have parted, most especially 'seriously' but even if it's just a fling he or she seems to need to center themselves, or whatever. But I think some of those kinds of things can be overcome, if the love is still there.

What I think heralds the point of no return -- well, I think I think this, and maybe I'll change my mind in two minutes because this is hardly a simple issue or one begging for a black-and-white answer -- is when the hurt and emptiness that follows loss of a love becomes so bad that there's just no getting over it. I think that's especially likely if one partner is pining for the other while the other is carrying on (or appearing to) with things, even if outward appearance of obliviousness, carelessness, or coldness is actually not at all representative of how they really feel. I'd like to think that there's nothing that can't be overcome with the right love, if it is shared, but sometimes egos and weaknesses get in the way.

Love can be the best thing, and it can be the worst. I hope most of us get to taste the best of it, at some point, and for all of us I hope that we hold it once it finds us, and that it is true. Good luck, my fellow astronauts.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 01:00 AM
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25. "sort of broke up"
If you can't be sure that you've broken up now, things aren't likely to go well with you together in the future.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:00 AM
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34. The breakup.
Once that happens, the trust is gone and a subsequent break-up is always in the back of ones mind. Once it ends, that's it. The two people each need to realize the wishful thinking or fond feelings will not change the situation as it exists now.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:03 AM
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35. The point of no return comes when you realize that things aren't going to

change for the better.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:04 PM
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36. yeah, I'm getting there. I think she's 99% done with me.
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