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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:29 PM
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Wisconsin Man Builds Monument To Hitler
<snip>

"Hitler did nothing.

"When the war happened, he tried everything diplomatic--everything.

"The soldiers of the Third Reich never stole anything. I fought next to them. They were good men. Never times were they bad.

"Not one person was gassed to death in the Third Reich."

This is what Ted Junker of Millard believes.

<snip>

Descending the hill to the front of the hall, two doors on each corner frame a curtain "so nobody gets a heart attack," Junker joked. As he retracts the curtain, the message-again large black-on-white letters-reveals the purpose of the building:

Honorary Hall for Adolf Hitler

Before you pass judgment,

Give careful and equal

Consideration to both sides.

Have courage

To stand for the truth.

The truth shall set you free.

Through the doors is a large, mostly empty hall. The walls are white and the carpet is an unassuming brown tone. A long wooden conference table is in the foreground of the hall. On each side are wooden shelves of books. And across the back wall is a huge red velvet curtain.

As Junker opens the curtain, the display slowly emerges.

Hitler's face stares back from two large photos. One sits atop a pedestal that will soon hold a bust of Hitler, Junker said. It's a dashing young Hitler in his SS uniform, swastika on his left arm sleeve. The other, much larger portrait is a close-up face shot. It sits in front of the pedestal on a large black box.

MUCH MORE: http://www.theweekextra.com/news/hitler061106/index.html

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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:51 PM
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1. Hey, if Repubs can rewrite history, why not their buddies the Nazis? -NT
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:56 PM
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2. Oh boy
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 02:56 PM by rockymountaindem
That's just pathetic. I guess this guy has to live in his sad mental world so he doesn't have to face up to what he actually stands for.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:57 PM
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3. Well, uh...
There's just not much I can say to that.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 02:58 PM
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4. I guess I should find that horrible....
but WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT! :rofl:
ah...laughing...so much...can't breath... or go on.... describing...symptoms much longer...
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:07 PM
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5. Springtime for you-know-who?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:10 PM
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6. Well now.
Isn't that special. How the hell does a former SS guy get citizenship in the US?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:11 PM
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7. must be a Bush supporter
:eyes:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 04:11 PM
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11. There's a loophole in the SS immigration ban.
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 04:13 PM by Xithras
Federal law says that people from the criminal groups identified at Nuremberg cannot immigrate to the U.S. unless they can prove that their unit was not involved in any atrocities. While many, and possibly the majority of, Waffen SS soldiers were involved in war crimes, there were a substantial number who simply served as combat soldiers alongside the Wehrmacht in WWII. They didn't commit war crimes and are legally no different than any other German citizen.

If this guy was in one of the Waffen SS units that wasn't a part of any of the atrocities, and if he still had his deployment papers to prove it, he wouldn't have had any problems moving to the U.S. Interestingly, if that is true it might also explain his twisted view of Hitler...if he wasn't present at any of the atrocity sites, he may have been genuinely unaware of the concentration camps like much of the rest of the German populace. His experience in the SS may conflict with history simply because of his particular deployments.

I'd LOVE to know where this guy spent the war.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:46 PM
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17. Thank you.
That was truly fascinating.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:21 PM
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22. From my GD post
Even bearing in mind

that there was a huge distinction between the mainly combat troops of the Waffen (literally "weapons") SS and the Totenkopft (literally "death's head") SS who guarded the concentration camps Junker could not fail to be unaware of the Einzatzgruppen.

These roving groups were responsible for approximately 1.5 million deaths of Jews and numerous other Untermenschen.

For a thorough ass-kicking of revisionists go here:


http://http//p102.ezboard.com/brodohforum">RODOH
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:09 PM
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32. I disagree, he could have been unaware.
When I was a kid, we had a former German Wehrmacht soldier living next door. The guy had been awarded the Iron Cross for bravery, and served in North Africa under Rommel until he was captured and shipped to a POW camp in the South. He liked the U.S. so much that he immigrated here after the war ended :)

He was not a denier by any means, and fully accepted the reality of what the Nazi's had done in Germany. As he pointed out though, he and the soldiers with him had no idea what was happening at the time. When the war started, he was among the first soldiers to enter France and once they'd surrendered his unit was relegated to patrol duty in the relatively quiet eastern part of the country. When the Afrika Corps were formed, his unit was rolled into them and he went to Africa to fight the British and Americans. As he explained, the newspapers didn't report on the roundups, the radio stations were all controlled by the government and never spoke of these things, and as a matter of security troops were never told where other units were being deployed to. He had no idea that Jews were being gassed until the war ended, simply because he hadn't been anywhere near any of the atrocity sites.

If this could be true of a Wehrmacht soldier, why not a Waffen?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 03:54 PM
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33. The Elements of the Afrika Korps
the 5th light Division and the 15th Panzer Division, were in place by the spring of 1941.

Your Heer neighbour therefore spent the bulk of the war away from Europe, and as you say, away from the scenes of atocity. Your standard issue SS Soldat can't make that claim.

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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:12 PM
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8. Does de Nile run through Elkhorn?
He doesn't own up to what Hitler did, he doesn't have to own up to what he did, either.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:13 PM
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9. Amen!
:spank:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 03:13 PM
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10. That makes me incredibly sad!
People like that make it increasingly difficult for me to try to find the good in all people.

:cry:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:20 PM
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12. Is it built out of cheese?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:26 PM
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13. somebody call mel brooks!
oooohhhhh -- meeeeellll -- i have something to shoooow you.......
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:30 PM
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14. "Don't be schtupid; be a Schmarty!"
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 10:28 PM
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31. Heil Myself. Heil to me. - Adolph Elizabeth Hitler.
:P
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:31 PM
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15. "Hitler, there was a painter......
he could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon. TOO COATS!!!!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 05:33 PM
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16. Why is this man still free to walk the streets?
He needs to be protected from himself.

Redstone
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:22 PM
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18. Oh man...
Why do these fuck-nuts live in my state?

RL
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 06:48 PM
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19. I hope he spent his live savings building it.
And dies pennyless.


Oooohhhh, the irony.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:12 PM
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20. Dont be a stupid, be a smarty come and join the nazi party!
Spriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime for Hitlerrrrrrrrrrr...
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:18 PM
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21. There's also a thread on this
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:28 PM
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23. I know people who feel that way.
Edited on Mon Jun-12-06 07:31 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
They absolutely swear to what this guy writes. During the war, several small European countries were allied with Germany because their devil was Russia and Stalin who was as bloody a murderer as Hitler. I guess your loyalty just depended on who killed YOUR family members.

How do sane human beings allow our planet to be put into the hands of the INSANE. Over and over and over.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:47 PM
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24. and cheeseheads think people from Illinois are bad????
Ha!

:evilfrown:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:01 PM
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26. YES, WE FIBS TAKE EXCEPTION TO HITLER
INDEED WE DO
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:00 PM
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28. Hey Skittles, let's KICK ASS!!!
That felt good.

:D
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:08 PM
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29. Hey I may be in Illinois within a month
another business trip!
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 09:14 PM
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30. Great news!!!
Will you be here over a weekend? Where are you staying? I work in Skokie and now live in the western burbs.
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smitty Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 07:56 PM
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25. He's 87 years old so he won't be around much longer, hopefully.
I don't like saying that about an elderly person but this man's a deluded idiot. Why the hell did he have to move here to Wisconsin?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 08:02 PM
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27. I thought it was "work shall set you free"`
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