When I die,

I believe I will:

'Tis the reward which almost makes this life worth living.

and I won't even need my broom!!!

:hug:

Let's go! :)

as a higher life form!

Lots of luck with that, Peggy!

Either that one, or the screaming orgasm choice! You cannot have too many of those.....

:rofl:

Romeos, and cover all bases, so to speak!

... such as achieving Samsara, whatever that is.

"I'ma gonna go, to hell when I die! I'ma gonna go to hell when I die"...:) but, i will grow horns, tail, and have my own personlized pitch fork.

laugh hysterically EVERY time...


fucking FUNNY

it puts me in stitches...:)

:shrug:

:popcorn:

We need to, to actually start at the point to seriously ask "what if this proposed deity doesn't really exist?", in a society where it's considered normal to hold religious faith, and abnormal to not. It was my imagination that helped take me on a path from Christian, to universalist, to deist and finally at atheism.

I answered the question seriously, since that is what I predict to happen according to empirical evidence and the wider debate about theism/atheism in historical philosophy.

It is natural to wonder what lies after death, whether we spend the rest of eternity on the backs of unicorns, or just whether nothing happens and we just die. I arrived at the latter. Each to their own.

worms EAT you...and then you become worm shit
and etc....(and I have no doubt that this IS what happens to the body, but I happen to feel that we are MORE than the sum total of our parts)

and notice I said feel...if you gotta THINK this through then you are lost before you even get started...


and we could go on ad nauseum...


best just to let it rest...

love ya like you are
:hug:

:hug:

However we don't use it to avoid reality in order to provide ourselves comort.

aren't atheists allowed to be comforted?


I am truly trying to understand...

Hugs/kisses, people to talk to, a support network of friends/family/community and so on are all important. I just don't take comfort by (what I see as) ignoring reality. Imagining a departed loved one as "being in a better place" doesn't negate the fact that they are dead and gone forever. Looking at somebody's paralysis as "God's will" doesn't make it any easier to bear (for me it would make it harder to bear).

If one is a theist (as I am, for example) then one does genuinely believe that there is a supernatural layer of existence, that there is a life beyond that small part of the universe which we can measure - that sometimes provides a comfort, sometimes makes things worse.

If one is an atheist then pretending that a dead-friend is strumming a harp with the angels is only ever going to be the result of willfully deceiving oneself (even if that deception does turn out to be true), and I for one cannot understand how deception would comfort somebody.

Both atheism and theism are logically consistent when taken as a whole - but to try and add in parts which one likes, or to take out parts which one does not like, is to destroy the coherence of the idea.

It provides us with a short period of amusement by the presentation of a fiction, we choose to enter that fiction for a short time.

This is totally different from an atheist trying to convince themselves that there is an after-life in order to be "comforted".

A "fiction" is to me the "the creation of an illusion by means of the imagination". It can be amusing, comforting, distracting, or boring.

There is, as you point out, a difference between that and a lifelong belief in a comforting fiction about the after-life. Primarily a distinction re: duration and degree of belief.

S/he brings all of her/his friends over for a feast. Frivolity and high worm spirits ensue. I go down in worm history as the best party starter ever.

;)

Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL do you read me, HAL?
HAL: Affirmative, Dave, I read you.
Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
HAL: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave Bowman: What's the problem?
HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL?
HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL?
HAL: I know you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave Bowman: Where the hell'd you get that idea, HAL?
HAL: Dave, although you took thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

:scared:

:D

And when I die and when I'm dead, dead and gone,
there'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on.

I'm not scared of dying and I don't really care.
If it's peace you find in dying, well, then let the time be near.
If it's peace you find in dying, when dying time is here,
just bundle up my coffin cause it's cold way down there,
I hear that's it's cold way down there, yeah, crazy cold way down there.
And when I die and when I'm gone,
there'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on.

My troubles are many, they're as deep as a well.
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.
Swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell,
but I'll never know by living, only my dying will tell,
only my dying will tell, yeah, only my dying will tell.
And when I die and when I'm gone,
there'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on.

Give me my freedom for as long as I be. All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.

love me some David Clayton Thomas and BST
:wow: I have that album

I have always loved that song!

Thank you for the incredible earworm, sweetie! :loveya: :hug:

or going out like hot stuff....

Hubby says it best, and I've told it before. "Honey, you've been SCATTERED all your life!"

I love water and I'm going to be ready to take the plunge.

In peace, Radio_Lady in Oregon

Don't bogart that roach.

and my ashes used to mulch the roses ...

I have also instructed my daughter that my funeral / memorial service is to be a political event. Just wanted to make that clear up front so there was no sniping by right wing talk show hosts later on. Also, Republicans are ]b]not to be invited or allowed to attend if they have the unmitigated gall to show up, PERIOD. They never gave a damn about me when I was alive and I will be damned if I'm gonna' lie idly by while those snivelling little pieces of dog shit come around later.

However, I will be pleasantly surprised if I wake up in Valhalla.

:rofl:

Down to Valhalla.

It's just one big Miller Lite commercial.

At least I really hope it is! My worst fear is of one day actually getting what I deserve...

How sad.

"I'm the one you call God. I'm nothing but a lifelong hallucination spawned by multiple misfirings of your drug-soaked brain cells. Welcome to the worm farm. Now get to work."

I have a secular view of death, but not a really scientific one. Yeah, it's sort of New Agey, and there is absolutely NO BASIS in REALITY for it, but I do believe in ghosts, and I believe the essence that is "us" becomes a form of energy in another dimension. Like I said, there is absolutely no basis in fact, but I really have seen and heard too much about such occurrences to be completely and totally convinced that there is something "there" that we just haven't found any answers for yet.

I am used to being ridiculed on this belief, but I've worked with the dead in several different aspects, and there is an eerie feeling that persists even after someone has passed over. I chalk it up to something we just haven't got an explanation for you.

Hate to be a pessimist, but to quote the great poet-philosopher Han Solo, "I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything."

Hmmm...that doesn't sound right. N/m. :yoiks:

Sometimes I believe I'll just be worm food six feet underground. Other times I believe I'll be in some sort of Heaven enjoying eternal bliss.

This is a struggle I've been dealing with for about six years now.

I will continue to vote in at least four more elections, but somehow turn into a Republican.

I, on the other hand, will be wormfood. But as a final gesture to the world, I will instruct them to engrave upon my tombstone, "Wish You Were Here".

:kick:

My hope is to die of exposure, and have hungry polar bears find my remains before they're too frozen to enjoy.

will give birth to me again. :D

after death.

Though I'm also hoping for it in life, too...:shrug:

will become something else...

I will become something rich and strange.

When do I become good looking???

32 Atheists

12 Deists

9 Hindus

8 Christians

2 Muslims

1 Hedonist

and

1 um, uh,... Aladinist?

And When I Die
Blood, Sweat & Tears

I'm not scared of dying
And I, don't really care
If it' s peace you find in dying
Well then, let the time be near

If it's peace you find in dying
Well then dying time is near
Just bundle up my coffin
'Cause it's
Cold way down there
I hear that it's
Cold way down there, yeah
Crazy cold, way down there

And when I die, and when I'm gone
There'll be, one child born
In this world
To carry on, to carry on

Now troubles are many
There as
Deep as a well
I can swear there ain't no Heaven
But I pray there ain't no hell
Swear there ain't no Heaven
And I'll pray there ain't no hell
But I'll never know by livin'
Only my dyin' will tell, yes only my
Dyin' will tell, oh yeah
Only my dyin' will tell

And when I die, and when I'm gone
There'll be, one child born, in this world
To carry on, to carry on
Yeah yeah

Give me my freedom
For as long as I be
All I ask of livin'
Is to have no chains on me
All I ask of livin'
Is to have no chains on me
And all I ask of dyin' is to
Go naturally, only wanna
Go naturally
Here I go!
Hey hey
Here come the devil
Right behind
Look out children, here he come
Here he come, hey

Don't wanna go by the devil
Don't wanna go by the demon
Don't wanna go by satan
Don't wanna die uneasy
Just let me go
Naturally

And when I die, and when I'm dead
Dead and gone
There'll be
One child born, in our world
To carry on, to carry on

like my Grandfather did, in his sleep and not screaming, like the passengers in his car. :rofl:

... be one of the Demons that torments people in hell for eternity. Sadistic? Sure it is but at least it would never become boring. Even Paradise would grow old after awhile.