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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:29 PM
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Poll question: DU opinion - Whale Meat
It's is an ancient Japanese tradition where they hunt for the meat whereas western industry discarded the rest keeping only the blubber and teeth.


Well - what say you?

Here's Tokyo's only whale restaurant Kujiraya: http://www.kujiraya.co.jp/
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:51 AM
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1. Come back to me
when they've found of way of hunting them which doesn't involves slowly killing the thing after half an hour of pain, and when they can show sustainable hunting levels. Until then, it's a big fat no from me.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:49 AM
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4. I haven't made up my mind about it
personally. I can't imagine a way to swiftly kill a whale.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:55 AM
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2. Most Japanese Did Not Eat Whale Meat Until After WWII - Some Tradition
Only those who lived in coastal villages traditionally ate whale meat; after the war, it was decided that whales were a cheap source of protein and used mostly for school lunches. Most adult Japanese have not had whale since they were in grade school, and most do not particularly like it, perferring other meats.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:50 AM
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5. The coastal villages are still part of Japan
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 06:16 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
I see you're point however. I must say, though - that restaurant I linked gets 200-300 patrons daily in Tokyo so :shrug:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:27 PM
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29. Thank You
If the Ainu were hunting whale with spears, there'd be a better case to be made for tradition, but since this is a whaling industry that was pretty much invented in the 1940s, it really isn't an ancient cherished tradition, as far as I've been able to research.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:46 PM
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13. So it's like the japanese version of the pizzaburger?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:22 PM
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28. That's My Understanding...
...that's its Japan's version of Mystery Meat Surprise School Lunch. Apparently, school lunches are crappy the world around, and Japanese associate whale with school lunch (and older people associate it with the poverty and humiliation after WWII).

I'm not really an expert on Japanese history or culture, but there were a bunch of stories out not too long ago, including one about children being taken on field trips to aquariums to learn about whales that ended with a snack of deep-fried whale chunks, and some that explained whale's place in the Japanese food chain (school lunch). It struck me as a little funny - many USians think of Japanese food as exotic, exciting and delicious, but apparently their school lunches aren't!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:45 AM
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3. no whale hunting -- period.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:00 AM
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6. Oh no way!
Why, why would anyone need to eat a whale. I am in a bad mood today and it just pisses me off that people can't get it through their heads that all creatures feel pain and fear. They don't communicate as we do so people believe they are only animals placed upon the planet for their benefit. Lord, it would serve us right if some cannibalistic civilization decided we were food.

Nothing against you, ChavezSpeakstheTruth, I'm ranting!:rant:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:10 AM
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7. Devil's advocate - indigenous people's in the frozen North:
not much to eat up there.


Like I said before - my mind isn't made up on this. The concept makes me cringe. But there is a heritage that goes back to ancient paintings there (yet, as was pointed about above, that was the coastal rural areas and not a part of mainstream Japanese life).

I figured that the DU response would be one of general distaste and/or even revulsion at the concept.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:56 AM
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8. I like whale - I had a coup;le different cuts of whale meat last month
Yummy!

As long as they aren't hunting and serving endangered species of whales, and aren't hunting in a non-replenishing way, let 'em have at it.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:19 PM
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9. I don't know if I would say no to it or not
I haven't made up my mind. I would have the same requirements as you.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:41 PM
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10. The thought of eating whale meat makes me....
blubber.

Seriously, eew.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:43 PM
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11. I eat beef.
I respect the right of Hindus to view cows as sacred animals, but if they tried to stop me from eating beef I'd be pretty pissed off.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:45 PM
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12. Can we have a whale-hunting contest between Japan and Norway?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:48 PM
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14. Can you raise whales in tanks like some kinds of fish?
kind of like a sea-world/cattle ranch
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:49 PM
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16. Mmm.
Probably be real tender too.

I wonder what baby whale tastes like.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:51 PM
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17. Whale Veal! Oh yeah! Maybe we can force feed the whale and get..
a tender liver :droool:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:55 PM
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18. For extra super delicious goodness squared...
feed whale veal to a baby whale.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:57 PM
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19. That might give rise to "Mad whale disease"
I can see it now, marine biologists running away in panic as a whale thrashes in its tank. the glass cracks and water starts pouring out. Screams are heard.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:01 PM
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22. Only if they feed them the brains.
As I understand it, baby whale brains make excellent perfume.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:49 PM
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15. Was that a porno movie that I missed?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:57 PM
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20. FUCK TRADITION!
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 03:59 PM by Placebo
No whale deserves to die because of people's backwards and sick "traditions" unless we're talking about people who still live in little tribes in the middle of nowhere who simply have no other way of survival.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:59 PM
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21. damn straight! Cows either!!
They're all mammals for chrissakes!!! It's just sick.

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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:17 PM
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26. It is!
:puke:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:02 PM
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23. That's exactly what I say about the Makah Indians.
They're not putting that land to very good use either.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:19 PM
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27. Makah Nation
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:30 PM
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30. Yes, in all seriousness...
I like the Makah too.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:02 PM
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24. That's exactly what I say about the Makah Indians.
They're not putting that land to very good use either.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:02 PM
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25. It's not for me to say...
That would be kind of hyprocritical of me. :hi:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:40 PM
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31. I feel like hunting some whale right now ....


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WoodyTobiasJr Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:15 PM
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32.  http://www.seashepherd.org
Whale hunting is sick and disgusting . No one can actually determine how many whales are out there so there is no way of knowing if they are threatened or endangered.



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