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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:11 AM
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mmmmmm. veal!
love it.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:13 AM
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1. ...
:popcorn:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:13 AM
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2. mmmmmmm. loser!
love it.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:14 AM
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3. it's not whether you win or lose . . .
name caller.
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:24 AM
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4. Oh. This could get interesting.
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 01:29 AM by reyd reid reed
:popcorn:

Who wants to make a bet on how long before this thread gets locked down so tight it vanishes into cyberspace?

IBTL

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:28 AM
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5. mmmmmmmmmm flamebait


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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:53 AM
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10. that;s not what it looks like
when I eat it
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:31 AM
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6. Well... people gotta eat.
Like mom used to say: "I'm not asking you to eat it!" and "Be thankful for the people who eat what you don't want"
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:41 AM
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8. There are extremely rare cases in which one has to eat veal.
The rare case being starving to death and randomly happening upon a baby cow.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:01 AM
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12. same applies for eggplant
plants are confined unnaturally during raising and they scream when you rip their innocent, cute little green stalks from the ground. I read that somewhere.

besides, eggplant tastes awful.

And soy? Don't get me started on soy and the soy cruelty and murder industry.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:08 AM
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14. Are you having fun with your obnoxious little flamebait thread?
So childish.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:13 AM
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15. not really
I'm far too immature to truly enjoy it

if I wasn't such an obnoxious shit, there might be a mildly perverse glee in it.

but as things are, this does little to lift me from my childish, superficial, narcissistic, pathetic little world.

:sigh: (we need a "sigh"--ennui emoticon)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:34 AM
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18. Plants can't feel pain.
They don't have nervous systems.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:16 AM
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16. a baby cow that is already dying of some natural disease
would be preferable, unless you plan to try to catch and kill the poor thing with your bare hands and your last starving ounce of strength.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:38 AM
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7. Mmmmm, the smell of flamebait in the wee hours of the morning
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:05 AM
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13. delicious, tender flamebait
that is particularly good with mushrooms
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:47 AM
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9. If you tell me you support extreme cruelty to animals,




...then I have no way to argue with you on this subject.


But if you claim you do not support extreme cruelty to animals, yet purchase and eat veal... well, I can't let that kind of speciousness stand without challenge.


Now then; Your position on animal cruelty...?


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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:58 AM
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11. it's no doubt specious
whatever it is.

I like veal. Tastes good.

Assuming you aren't going to start flogging me with "meat is murder" nonsense, there are "humane" ways to raise livestock.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:44 AM
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17. It is indeed specious, but I digress; I'm not here to make enemies.



Of course there are humane ways to raise livestock. Unfortunately the most humane ways also cost the most money and let's face it, money - and not compassion - is the bottom line for most of those in the livestock business.

With respect to veal, the very reason it tastes good to you is because it has been treated cruelly. I don't know how much you know about veal other than that the end product tastes good, but I am a firm believer that people should have a working knowledge of where their food comes from and how it is processed before they put it into their mouth. To me it is the same principle as having a working knowledge of how one's government functions before voting.

Here is some information about veal; if you can say that you have no problem with other humans causing a calf to suffer it's entire life because that process makes it taste good for the few minutes you spend eating it, then there is no way I can argue with your position on this issue:


...Male calves are taken from their mothers shortly after birth. ... Most are destined for the veal crate.

Solitary Confinement

The veal crate is a wooden restraining device that is the veal calf's permanent home. It is so small (22" x 54") that the calves cannot turn around or even lie down and stretch and is the ultimate in high-profit, confinement animal agriculture.(1) Designed to prevent movement (exercise), the crate does its job of atrophying the calves' muscles, thus producing tender "gourmet" veal.

...

The calves are generally fed a milk substitute intentionally lacking in iron and other essential nutrients. This diet keeps the animals anemic and creates the pale pink or white color desired in the finished product. Craving iron, the calves lick urine-saturated slats and any metallic parts of their stalls. Farmers also withhold water from the animals, who, always thirsty, are driven to drink a large quantity of the high-fat liquid feed.
Because of such extremely unhealthy living conditions and restricted diets, calves are susceptible to a long list of diseases, including chronic pneumonia and "scours," or constant diarrhea. Consequently, they must be given massive doses of antibiotics and other drugs just to keep them alive. ... The calves often suffer from wounds caused by the constant rubbing against the crates.


...

About 14 weeks after their birth, the calves are slaughtered. The quality of this "food," laden with chemicals, lacking in fiber and other nutrients, diseased and processed, is another matter. The real issue is the calves' experience. During their brief lives, they never see the sun or touch the Earth. They never see or taste the grass. Their anemic bodies crave proper sustenance. Their muscles ache for freedom and exercise. They long for maternal care. They are kept in darkness except to be fed two to three times a day for 20 minutes. ...


...

Sourse: http://www.britishmeat.com/veal.html



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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:39 AM
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19. I like mine with popcorn.
:popcorn:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:54 AM
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20. Locking
This is flamebait, pure and simple.
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