Noam Chomsky v. Howard Zinn cage match!!!

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:25 PM
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Poll question: Noam Chomsky v. Howard Zinn cage match!!!

Which of these two titans of dissent would win in clash of passive-resistance to each other! Or, you can vote for who you like reading/listening to best.

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WindRavenX

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:26 PM
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1. Howard Zinn, baby

That man has some anger, dude!

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:28 PM
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2. second!

I love Howard Zinn. Doesn't he teach at your school? Do you get to see him around and take his classes? I got to hear him lecture and met him once and it was a great experience.

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WindRavenX

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:29 PM
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4. no, he teaches at BU

I go to BC, which is extremely conservative by most university standars (most faculty are very liberal, but not radical-- which is a shame).

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:33 PM
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6. Too bad.

If I lived in Boston I would go to BU and stalk him...by which I mean go to some of his lectures.
Just out of cuirousity, is there a Boston Optometry school too?

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WindRavenX

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:35 PM
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8. beats me

There must though, because BU has a medical school.

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:38 PM
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11. So you might have BO

in your town? Good to know.

You've got me writing in the "fucksouthdekota" milieus.

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:29 PM
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3. Note to george will...

using big words doesn't make you smart, fucktard. You don't hold a candle to Zinn and Chomsky.

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:30 PM
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5. It pisses me off to no end knowing Will is a big baseball fan

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Radical Activist

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:34 PM
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7. Oh yeah, his connection with the "common man"

What a bunch of contrived pretentious bullshit that is. No George, it doesn't make you down home and normal just because you go to a baseball diamond and interview a black player. Jackass.

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:36 PM
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10. lol, nice

:thumbsup:

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Spider Jerusalem

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:36 PM
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9. Chomsky.

Next to Chomsky, Zinn is an insignificant flyspeck on the American intellectual landscape. (And he's not a very good historian, either.)

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Radical Activist

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Mon Jun-26-06 07:41 PM
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12. oh wtf!

Just because Chomsky likes to use big words doesn't make his arguments any more sound that Zinn's. A People's History of the United States changed how people view the world and how history is written.
Linguistics...yeah there's a field people really care about! :eyes:

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Spider Jerusalem

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Mon Jun-26-06 08:32 PM
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13. Sorry...

but the theory of universal grammar is a far more significant contribution than a library full of books like Zinn's. People care more about poetry than physics, too; Newton and Einstein were/are still more important than Shakespeare and Schiller. Chomsky's work on grammar has had far-reaching uses in the fields of computer science and bioinformatics; his work has led to changes the way we view the workings of human cognition and innate language ability. Just because YOU don't care about it doesn't mean it's not more important, in the great scheme of things.

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Mon Jun-26-06 08:33 PM
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14. They'd obviously pull a double heel-turn and take out the ref...

Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 08:35 PM by primate1

(You know, citing him as an illegitimate sorce of authority and coersion.) Then go for the Intellectual Dissisdent Tag Team titles at the next PPV.

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Radical Activist

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:00 AM
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16. lol

funny

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ThomCat

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:15 AM
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17. Yes! They'd team up!

You can't pit these two wonderful scholars against each other. x( That makes Thomcat sad.

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ikojo

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Mon Jun-26-06 08:34 PM
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15. I think Howard Zinn is less polarizing

than Noam Chomsky. I know many lefties who are repulsed at the mention of Noam Chomsky's name.

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Reverend_Smitty

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Tue Jun-27-06 10:54 AM
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18. I'll vote Zinn...

simply because I can read Zinn while relaxing whereas Chomsky I have to be sitting at a desk paying full attention

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