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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:48 PM
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Did Star Jones quit the View or was she fired?
I know, I know, most of you don't care. I am curious however. I do like Star Jones and since Meredith Viera has left and Rosie ODonnel is coming onto the show, I was wondering if either event triggered Star leaving.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:50 PM
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1. I do not know for sure
But I am guessing she quit. Rosie O'Donnell has been very vocal about Star Jones' alleged dishonesty about weigh loss surgery being the real reason she lost all the weight.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:50 PM
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2. I don't know

I like Star, she speaks her mind and expresses herself extremely well.

It must not have been easy to be the only African American on the show.

I am glad that Barbara Walters selected her originally.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:54 PM
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6. Here's a report from a local TV station --
Star Jones Quits "The View" After Nine Years
Posted: 6/27/2006 1:05:00 PM

If you were waiting to see Star Jones and Rosie O'Donnell square off on the morning talk show circuit, there's some bad news. Jones has quit "The View."

While she didn't say why she's leaving, most fingers point to comic Rosie O'Donnell who is set to replace Meredith Viera. O'Donnell has been openly critical about Jones' refusal to reveal how she lost all her weight.

Jones called her time on the show "the most amazing nine years of my entire professional and personal life." She received a standing ovation from her co-hosts and the audience.

Jones says her last day will be sometime in mid-July. While it's being reported that she has several talk show offers in the works, she says she's "not sure what the future holds."

From:

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=FC37F23D-0DD7-4F74-9F1C-3361CACF9176
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:51 PM
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3. I heard that Rosie coming to the show triggered her leaving.
She hates Rosie because Rosie said that Star should admit that the reason she lost all of the weight was stomach stapling and not diet.

Whatever the reason, I'm glad that vain POS is off the air.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:37 PM
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19. No, her contract wasn't renewed MONTHS ago
She polls badly with the viewers, and has since her "pimped" wedding.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:40 PM
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20. In a Rosie/Star fight to the death...
I would hope they both kill each other...
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newcriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:52 PM
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4. I didn't know she wasn't on the view anymore.
Personally I can't stand her. I would bet it would have something to do with Rosie joining the view tho. I was looking forward to trying to watch the view(I have never made it through an entire show) once I could see Rosie put Star in her place.Damn
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:53 PM
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5. ABC didn't renew her contract for one...
and like everyone else said, Rosie and her don't get along!!!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:54 PM
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7. I won't ask what difference it makes, because it matters to you.
Hope you find the answer you're looking for.

Redstone
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 05:54 PM
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8. I heard she quit
Rosie got the lead chair on the show and she wanted it.


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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:01 PM
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9. I think both women were quite talented and it's a shame they
couldn't have figured a better way out of this.

Although I like Rosie a lot, I don't think it was up to her to "out" Star Jones' method of weight reduction. Star said she didn't want to encourage others to have surgery, but gave a good deal of advice in her book (which I have not read).

Al Roker and others have had stomach surgery and they haven't had to endure being mocked by someone else in the media -- who should really look in the mirror and think about her own weight problem.

Just sayin' --

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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:55 PM
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10. From what little I know about Starr
I don't like her personally. But I greatly admire the way she speaks her mind.
As far as Rosie goes, I love her political views!

If I put myself in Starr's shoes, I can see why she left.
She was on the show for nine frickin years! I would be pissed if they did not give me the "lead chair" after all that time.

It feels weird writing all this stuff on Democratic Underground. (I feel guilty "gossiping" about celebrities on a political discussion board when our country has been hijacked.)

But I need a small diversion from the frustration. So I'll continue....

Do you know if that story is true about Starr's husband? The one that says Al Reynolds was at a Fire Island Halloween party a few years ago dressed as Bam Bam from the Flintstones? The story says it was a party in Cherry Grove (a popular hangout for gays)and he was wearing a loin cloth and carried a big bat like the cartoon character.......?

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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:30 PM
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11. I've watched "The View" on occasion and Star and Joy were pretty
much my favorites on the show. Mind you I wasn't rushing to join their fan clubs. Meredith was O.K. and I cannot stand Elizabeth. The thing about the "lead" chair is that Barbara Walters IS ALWAYS ON THE SHOW! She was supposed to drop in sometimes. So as far as "the lead chair", that goes to Barbara. I am no a Rosie fan, but her and Elizabeth should be interesting - (if I ever bother to watch it again) Joy is not enough of a draw to the show for me and I never watched to see Barbara Walters.

As far as comments made about Rosie going after Star about "fessing up" about how she lost all of her weight; it is nobodies damn business how Star lost her weight. If Rosie doesn't like it, too damn bad. People have a right to not blab every detail of their lives to the whole world because somebody wants to know.

Oprah was mocked for all of her weight losses and then gains over the years. I can totally understand why Star wanted to keep it private.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 07:53 PM
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12. I certainly agree with you, Madmunchie.
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 07:54 PM by Radio_Lady
...and I know absolutely nothing about Star Jones' husband, Al Reynolds, and the alleged cavorting to which you referred. When men get involved with "high profile" women, they have to accept the fact that they will be targets of the tabloids. It goes with the territory.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

Happiness is... sharing a matinee with my husband in London (May 2006)!





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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:43 PM
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22. There's a very, very good reason why Rosie attacked her
about the weight issue, and I for one am glad she did. Star was bragging all over about how she lost her weight in a healthy way, and was giving out advice -- including in a book -- about how anyone can do what she did. Umm... no they couldn't, unless you got gastric bypass surgery. Rosie's point -- as well as other's -- is that Star was setting up viewers who bought into this for failure. Losing weight and staying healthy the "old fashioned" way takes time, and results aren't slamming like they are with surgery. Woken in this country -- especially girls -- have a bad enough self image, without Star running around bragging about something she didn't do, and telling women they could do it, too.

Star DIDN'T keep it private, that's' the thing. She lied about it. She went out of her way to lie about it, and to make money off of it. Tsk tsk tsk.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:57 PM
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25. Not that I've been following this story
and I haven't watched the View in years...

Starr doesn't have the temperament to be 'lead chair' material.

They need someone balanced, more of a moderator. Meredith Viera was perfect for that role. Starr isn't.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:39 PM
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14. I'm no fan of Star Jones, but Rosie O'Donnell has no business
badgering Star about her weight loss.

I think it's really petty of O'Donnell to judge someone for how they lose weight, or not wanting to discuss it.

It's a shame that Rosie couldn't be an adult about this. As much as I loathe Star Jones (as a television personality), I can't help but feel for her. If her contract wasn't renewed because of Rosie O'Donnell, it is a shame. (It shouldn't have been renewed due to shrill conservative proselytizing/ shilling for swag).

I heard from someone at work that Gayle "Oprah's friend" King was going to be on the show. In my opinion, it would have been an improvement on Star Jones. Rosie O'Donnell is not.

(I did love Rosie's special on her cruise program, though. I just think she doesn't debate well).
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:35 PM
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13. From a *sometime* viewer: She said she FELT fired. Her contract
Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 10:23 PM by UTUSN
was not renewed. Now. She is a good Dem. She was emotionally dependent on Meredith, who, in recent months had a pained, embarrassed look on her face when Star was talking. Star's grabbiness with freebies was embarrassing to all.

That said, and about the "lead" chair: Meredith did a great, subdued control on the group. I have been surprised to see BahBwah WahWah filling that role REALLY POORLY. Her self-absorption just gets in the way.

As for Rosie (yes, a Dem)----I'm sorry, but this is my idea of a very bad choice. She's way over the top. She has already thrown whatever balance there was out of kilter, even before putting in an appearance. And, while the original concept was supposedly to get individuals from different backgrounds, now there will be TWO comedians--her and Joy. Actually, I don't see Joy sticking around either. Rosie sucks the air out of the room, and Joy's style is smooth and will be overwhelmed.

And, as for Rosie judging others on "honesty," I barely watched a few minutes of her show, but I saw her doing ga-ga shtick over Tom CRUISE before she declared her Gayness. I thought THAT was dishonest. It was like a letdown, like, after years of Cher's dissing Sonny, she suddenly declared her ever lasting love for him when he died.

I don't see what mix can work again. Elizabeth is so lightweight and brittle with her wingnuttiness, like, not even ready for Faux.

Geez. My female cousin says she has never watched this show and never would watch "a woman's show," and here I am butting in and going on about it. Huh!1
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 09:44 PM
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15. Barbara Walters missed an opportunity by hiring Rosie.
I can't stand the view - and I agree politically with over half of the women. Joy Behar is mean; Star is shallow; Elisabeth is an idiot; Barbara is a snob; and Meredith is gone.

Walters could have chosen someone engaging to the show, someone that would interact with the others in an interesting manner. Rosie O'Donnell had her own show. I predict she won't adjust well to being one of five.

Rosie O'Donnell seems to have a big heart, and she's entertaining on her own. But I cringe to think of her discussing serious issues with other people. She's no Meredith Viera.
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newcriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:46 PM
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23. Rosie going gaga over Tom
has nothing to do with her being gay. There was no dishonesty there at all. I am married with 5 kids and I would act the same way if Angela Jolie would decide to come visit me.You can have a crush on someone without wanting to have sex with them.I understand her crush completely.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:12 PM
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28. Thanks! See my Post #13!
Ha! I used Angelina, too! ALL you straight girls like her!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:48 PM
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24. About Rosie and Tom Cruise -- that wasn't dishonest
I'm queerer than a three-dollar bill, and I absolutely adore Bo Bice... my Growly Beardy Bear... as well as Jude Law. Yum. Do I want to have sex with them? Hell no. Do I adore them, especially my little Bojangles? Yes. Would I love to hug him and ruffle his Southern Rock hair? YES. Do I want to kiss him? Gag. No. Just like several of my very straight female friends and my straight sister have girl crushes on Angelina Jolie. She's hot. They know it. They talk about it.

Not dishonest nor inconsistent at all.

And, Rosie is an excellent celebrity interviewer.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:25 PM
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47. I like Rosie and watched her show a lot. She's outspoken and
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:28 PM by Radio_Lady
very quick. I think she carried the Tom Cruise a little too far. When I heard she was a lesbian, I was pretty shocked. I didn't guess it at all; but it doesn't matter to me. She says what she thinks, but calling the other woman "a fatty" was uncalled-for; it seems a bit like jealousy or "sour grapes" in a way. I wish Rosie would lose some weight, just like I wish for myself. Her partner is thin and blonde and beautiful -- Rosie might do well to try and lose a few pounds herself.

I just wonder how Rosie will blend with the group. She does a reasonable job with interviews, but she is essentially a pretty outspoken comedienne and her homosexuality may not be a plus for a show with this sort of panel. I don't know; I see some problems ahead unless Rosie fits in with the two who remain, as well as Barbara, who is no lightweight mentally. Yes, she has a speech impediment, but I have to hand it to her. She's in her early 70s and she "ain't done yet".
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:13 PM
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45. Re: Cher and Sonny. They were on a late night talk show together
(can't remember which one) when the host asked them to sing "I've Got You Babe" much to their dismay.

But they did get up to sing together and held hands while they did. They both got teary-eyed and emotional and continued to hold hands after the song was over.

There was a lot of unfinished businsse between them...
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:56 PM
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50. It was David Letterman. I watched that when it first aired.
You could really see how annoyed they were at first with the request, but once they started singing, it was quite a moment. Sonny and Cher was before my time, and I don't care for their music, and even I was almost teary-eyed.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:25 PM
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17. Well now I know, Star was basically "fired" from the show
The move on Wed. morning by Star not appearing on "The View" and Barbara Walters announcing that "ABC had decided not to renew Star's contract months ago and that they were not expecting Star to make this announcement now, but they expected her to wait awhile" was so over the top and fucking unbelieveable. People never fail to amaze me. Star chose to leave on her own terms since her contract wasn't going to be renewed. She announced her leaving the show on her terms in a very classy way. What Barbara Walters did was plain "payback", bitchiness and I hope that the show tanks.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:36 PM
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18. Her contract was not renewed, because the majority of viewers
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 12:36 PM by LostinVA
Do not like her.

on edit: this was done months before Rosie was hired.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:01 PM
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26. That is all well and good, I don't agree with what Barbara Walters
did this morning though. I thought it was mean spirited and in poor taste AND showing her to be a control freak. Star decided to go out on her own terms and I think that when possible, we all should have the choice.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:09 PM
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27. She lied to the producers, etc., that's unprofessional
Showing, who knows what else she would have done if she stayed on the show. It's a live show, she's a loose cannon... I think it was a good professional decision. She apparently was going out on her own terms, but then decided to change her terms without telling anyone. I personally think she was the mean-spirited one.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:51 PM
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31. Loose Cannon? 9 Years on the show and she was a loose cannon?????????
What evidence of her being a loose cannon is there? Her contract wasn't renewed, how is that, her terms? In Barbara's own words, THEY were going to announce her departure, how do you figure to know that is what Star wanted?

I don't know, it seems to me,

#1 When your contract isn't renewed (another phrase for fired),

#2 "They" decided when "they" were going to make the announcement is translated into "spin" on how Star would depart the show (we are all familiar with that from the WH), at least most of us are

#3 Walters unnecessary announcement stating that ABC decided MONTHS ago to not renew Star's contract, shows plain vindictiveness and of course the CYA mentality that we again have all witnessed time and time again in this Administration.

Simply stated, Star was fired and ABC tried to "spin" it to make themselves look as good as possible. And with little time that she had left after her 9 years at "The View", she GRACIOUSLY announced her departure, with no finger pointing and no meanness. She SIMPLY STATED the inevitable decision when SHE CHOSE TO, which basically is all the power that she had left with the decision that was made for her, and in Walters so predictable egotistical reaction, she couldn't have left the gracious exit be, she had to add the animosity and she had to state that Star was basically fired.

I never really like Walters, and now I know why.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:18 PM
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46. Regrettably, Star Jones is doing something you shouldn't do in
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:19 PM by Radio_Lady
radio and TV. It's called "burning bridges" and it gets you into hot water every time.

This reminds me of the manager who screams, "You're fired..." at the same time the employee yells, "I quit." I've been in similar circumstances before and I was not able to get a decent reference from a former employer because of it. I wish I had just done it the usual way, on good terms so you can put the job on your resume and not worry about it.

Hopefully, "The View" won't go down in flames because of this. The panel needs to be a good mix of viewpoints, and now there will be two comediennes -- and one young woman with pretty conservative views who is just getting started (Wasn't Elizabeth on "Survivor" a few years ago? She came from kind of nowhere... after the young Chinese woman moved on.)

They really need a middle-aged female anchor panelist who can keep Rosie at bay and let Joy continue to do what she does best. Too many comediennes ruin the mix, in my humble opinion.

Barbara is in the fourth chair only because the crowd has diminished quite a bit more than she anticipated. She is one smart cookie and she has had her share of bumps and arguments, but she's still here! Don't expect her to permanently stay on doing a daily show in September. (I think they tape just a couple days a week in the Marriott Times Square building. Also, "The View" will probably go to re-runs soon.)



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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:44 PM
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49. I agree to a point. Burning bridges isn't a good thing to do.
As more of the story comes to light, it appears that Star was difficult to work with and that she has a bad reputation regarding that.

I still think that BaBa Wa Wa could have let Star make her speech on Tuesday, gone ahead and fired her, then announced on Wednesday the Star has indeed moved on and that they will miss her terribly blah blah blah. I don't think that she needed to mention the fact that Star had known for months that ABC wasn't renewing her contract, and that in light of things that have been said, it was impossible for them to all sit together anymore... I think that saying all of that was petty and spiteful. I also believe that it made Baba and ABC look pretty bad. All of that could have come out in "interviews" behind the scenes. They would have come out looking much better than they are going to look now. Star was going to make the announcement on Thursday, so she "pre empted" them and did it on Tuesday, really not a big deal.

The funny thing is though, Baba has made a career of trying to get people to reveal things not yet known to the general public, so in essence, Star one upped her.

As you can probably tell, I really don't care for Walters. She, after all, was just supposed to "drop in" on the show from time to time. She lives there for Christ sakes. She really seems to be one of those that cannot "retire" and give up the limelight. I have respect for what she has accomplished in her life, I just don't like her now and for over the last decade.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 12:42 PM
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21. both
it looks as though she stated an intent to leave in the fall, and The View (or Barbara Walters) told her she may as well make her absence effective immediately.

Someone told me that since Starr doesn't (or at least at one point didn't) admit to her gastric bypass, Rosie called her out on it. If this is true I can imagine there's some animosity.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:37 PM
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29. hopefully Star will write a book
a juicy one about all the infighting we know has been going on.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:37 PM
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30. Article from Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/06/28/ap2846634.html

Seems Star announced she was leaving before she was supposed to, which pissed off Ms. Walters, and was immediately dropped? Good article, I might start watching now that the two most annoying members will be gone, and I like Rosie !
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:52 PM
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32. Rosie doesn't start until Fall, and you LIKE Elizabeth??????
I cannot stomach her.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:15 PM
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52. Remember Debbie Mestasnuflupagas (sp)?
Acccccck, that was annoying! Remember the SNL skit where "Barbara" would lock Debbie in a dog pen. Classic!

I don't watch the show, but Rosie might make me peek. I wonder who else they'll bring in? Elizabeth will be the dimmest bulb left, fer shure :hi:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:55 PM
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33. Her contract was NOT renewed so she was technically fired
but I think she had six months left so she is going ahead and quitting now.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:03 PM
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34. Star on Larry King tomorrow (thurs) n/t
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:15 PM
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35. No Contract Renewal
Technically she was neither fired nor did she quit. Jones' contract was not renewed. I am not sure that O'Donnel was the reason that they did not renew Jones' contract. Walters said that was not the reason and that the real reason for the contract not being renewed was that polls showed Jones' weight loss and marriage to the Reynolds guy turned off many fans.

I tend to think the hiring of Rosie O'Donnel did have something to do with Jones' contract not being renewed. It was well know tht O'Donnel and Jones had a hard time getting along with each other so it seems like people from the show realized that one of them had to go. Maybe the decision to hire O'Donnel came after the decision on Jones was made.

I also tend to think Walters is sabatoging her own show. I have nothing against O'Donnel, but in terms of ratings I think many people may stop watching the show in the O'Donnel is such a lighting rod. Even though their are many people who like her I think there are many people who dislike her. So I think Walters is trying to wrap up the show. I would not be surprised if it was announced in the next two years that the show is going off the air.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:22 PM
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36. darn..we'll miss the Rosie vs Star fireworks n/t
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:28 PM
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37. Kind of both. Now, who should replace her?
They didn't renew her contract, and hid behind a lot of bullshit excuses about why she supposedly was "less liked" now after her weight loss and marriage. (Actually, she's been warmer, funnier, and more relaxed the past couple years, and much less self-righteous than she used to be.)

The problem is, the show gave Meredith (whom I adored) a HUGE sendoff, and was apparently treating Star like the bastard child at the family reunion. She then seized control by announcing her immiment departure 2 days before Barbara Walters was going to. Walters and ABC retaliate by firing her immediately, instead of letting her have 3 more weeks a proper sendoff.

So no one here looks good (except for Joy Behar, who was loose and funny this A.M., knowing she has to prop up the show; Elizabeth looked even more deer-in-the-headlights than usual). ABC looks churlish, manipulative, and underhanded; Jones Reynolds looks like a diva bitch throwing a tantrum and being unprofessional, and Barbara Walters looks like a captain rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

The $20,000 question: who should replace Star that will mesh with Joy, Barbara, Rosie and (ick) Elizabeth? I propose Julianne Malveaux--smart, funny, journalist background, African-American, and a solid liberal who also understands the religious community and the deep South.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:43 PM
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38. I agree with everything that you had to say except what you said about
Star. Imagine knowing that after 9 years you basically are fired and that they (the powers that be) are sending you out the back door and deciding how to best send you off while making themselves look good. Call me weak, but under those circumstances, I would have an extremely difficult time, just staying around until they decided when my last day was AND doing so while having to be on camera, grinning and acting like everything is fine.

I think that what Star did was leave on her terms with what dignity she could preserve. We all should have the opportunity, when possible, to at least dictate the terms of our departures. I applaud her for not capitulating the the giant corporation's total control.

Don't we all complain on a regular basis for the mealy mouthed spineless media? Well, even if for her own purposes, she didn't leave so mealy mouthed AND she has been a steady Democratic supporter for all of those 9 years.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:57 PM
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40. Oh, I totally agree with you!
I didn't mean to say that she WAS a diva bitch, just that that's how it's going to APPEAR and be SPUN. Please, compared to Elizabeth? Star's a pussycat, and it's been a real blessing to have her legal expertise on board with regards to some of the scarier issues (wiretapping, gay marriage, etc.).

I wish her nothing but good things, as I think she really got the raw end of the deal.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:03 PM
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41. Me as well
Hate to sound like sour grapes, but I hope that the show tanks. I didn't watch the show to much, but I did like Star for preciseley the same reasons that you mentioned. I found her to be a very intelligent, educated, spiritual person. I enjoyed her legal expertise and had much admiration for her. I hope that she comes out on top of this whole thing.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:08 PM
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43. I'm glad she did it like this.
They were giving her the boot and she said .... "oh know you don't" and did it her way.

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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:45 PM
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39. AND I hope the show now tanks
Walters has never just "visited" the show, as she claimed to want to do at the shows inception, she basically lives on it. She needs to retire.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:43 PM
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48. She is retired. However, this is a big part of her production efforts
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:49 PM by Radio_Lady
and she's trying to stem the blood-letting, at least until things simmer down.

She has an adopted married daughter in Maine, not connected with show business at all. However, Jaqueline does not want any children, so Barbara will never have a grandchild. But she feels, quite understandably, that she has worked all of her life and she'd like to have time to do other things. She officially "retired" from 20/20 months ago.

Barbara worked around the corner from me on the "Today" show unit when I was at NBC on the "Tonight" show unit. She had been in broadcasting at least since the early 1960s. I hate to see people diss her for -- whatever. With all of her faults, she is a survivor. Nobody is perfect in this business, but I've watched her change and grow, mostly for the better, and come out on top. More power to her.

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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:56 PM
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51. She retired from 20/20 and was seemingly a constant on "The View"
Although she stated that she was just going to "stop in" now and then. My opinion, is that the woman can't get out from being in front of the camera. That is what I now think of her.

Before "The View" I had a much better opinion of her. I was never a big fan of hers, but I had more warm and fuzzy feelings towards her. I used to watch some of her interviews.

After the first few years on "The View" and she increasingly appeared and so obviously "took over" whenever she "dropped in", I got really turned off by her. She basically "dropped in" CONSTANTLY and then proceeded to dominate the show. The show, I believe, was initially successful BECAUSE, there was not one star on the show, but a panel. Those dynamics changed when Walters was on and it didn't add to the show, it took away from it and changed it.

It seems that Walters decided to be a more permanent fixture on the show when the show's success was pretty solidly established.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:42 AM
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53. I've always admired Barbara nt
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:06 PM
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42. Our own Catwoman!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 04:11 PM
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44. I've never watched the show..
.. and I wouldn't know Star Jones if she said hi.

But on the Stern show today the consensus was:

1) she knew as long as 6 months ago that her contract would not be renewed.
2) Baba Wawa told her she could handle her departure any way she wished, but then she unexpected announced it on the show, saying she wanted to leave and then told People that she was forced out. this pissed people off.
3) there was lots of specualtion that one reason she would not be renewed was her penchant for performing unpaid and uncleared plugs for various businesses for various reasons.

I have zero idea how much, if any, of this is true - but that's what they said :)
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