I hate destructive PUNKS

:mad:

somebody left some graffiti on my apartment block. Not tons but still, noticeable.

I complained to the landlord and they are looking into it (I hope it gets cleaned off). I'm beginning to hate city living. Doesn't matter where you go some stupid punk or punks want to destroy nice things.
And taxpayers have to pay to clean it up. :(

I'm sounding like a groucy old men lamenting the state of the world.

I don't think I'm quite cut out for city living, either. I was the grouchy lady last night who told the neighborhood kids to stay out of my backyard, and I'm only 25. I'm sorry that people are being destructive around you. :hug:

I irks me that the parents don't tell their kids to stay out of other people's yards. I hate to come home to find 10 kids playing baseball on my front lawn with their foul balls bouncing off my house! The parents just watch and smile...I guess cuz the kids aren't in their yards!

:wtf: happened to respecting other peoples' property???

Etc...

What is this "looking into it"? The landlord should grab a brush.

a brush wouldn't do much good

A red of natural brick wall and a splotch of grey covering a tag.

You can tell how old a covered tag is on the LA freeways by how well the paint matches the concrete. The match is better lately.

Tags suck. :-(

Upon what was the graffiti applied? Do you own the property? What colors? What medium (Spray paint)?

Are you complaining about at what you have to look outside your windows?

Why are you taking a personal interest in this activity?

I want to live in a nice safe place and not some shit hole. It's really not that difficult to understand.

And graffiti costs taxpayers lots of money, so yes, I'm interested.

But I guess the poor graffiti artist is just a poor, misunderstood guy who has never gotten a break in life so he deserves some pity and/or some understanding?

but self-centered affluent brats. One of the most notorious taggers caught a few years ago turned out to be a young woman who attended Reed College.

Another, whom I personally saw being arrested as he tried to tag a bus shelter, was a preppy-looking kid from Beaverton (an affluent suburb).

I hate the tag type of grafitti (as opposed to real murals). It's uglifying and egocentric, and shows a lack of respect for the property owner (who probably is NOT some rich guy, but a working class type or elderly person) and the neighborhood.

If I were czarina, taggers would be punished by having their victims come into their private bedrooms and spray painting their walls and furniture with their own tags. How would the arrogant punks like that?

Not much, I wager.

When I was coming up, in NYC, the vast majority of fellow writers were working class/lower middle class. Of my two main bombing partners, one's dad was a cab driver, the other a foreman for a landscaping crew. My own Dad was - ahem - perpetually not working. Then again, DeNiro's kid used to write. I think there was a wide mix but definitely weighed towards the poor and working class. Then again, we took Mobb Deep to heart: Ain't no such things as halfway crooks.

Nah, I'll be quiet this time. (See "Yeah yeah Yeah" in my journal if ya really want to get my take).

Can we get some flicks up in here, or what? I'll tell ya whether it's any good.

???

I don't understand the response at this point. Seriously. Go take a picture of it. I'll tell you how it looks. ;-)

your landlord does. :) And, most graffiti-ers are taxpayers. For what it's worth.

And yes, graffiti costs can sting the regular property owner as the City does graffiti removal.

Graffiti-ers are taxpayers? Doesn't give any right to wreck other people's property.

the city never pays for it, but they don't remove it off of private buildings.
And, we pay taxes on everything. I'm sure they do too :) But, I'm not saying anything about their right to do it.

One doesn't have to remove graffiti from most structures. For example, a highway is no less functional because there's graffiti on the walls of the overpasses and blocking walls. It's an aesthetic decision in most cases.

I'm sure every city has it's own problems with it...it's just stupid and ugly, all this tagging. But then I'm always cranky. ;) :D

cheers! :D

Your landlord needs to get on the ball before other taggers start
cross tagging right over it. Now, it looks like an open message board
to them.


We had new paint on many of the schools in our local district.
Within a few months, taggers had hit 3 out of 5 schools.

The walls were covered up within a few days to avoid cross tagging,
and get rid of the ugly graffiti.

Seriously, though. It's the right strategy. Writers want their "shit to run," which means they want it to stay up for some length of time, so that other writers can see it. If you "buff" the spot immediately, it will reduce the number of writers that hit it, primarily because it will then become a "waste of paint" spot. Why waste good spray paint if it's gonna be buffed in the morning, in other words. Then, of course, it will be hit again, usually by newjacks or occasionally just some writer who wants to catch a tag and doesn't much care if it runs, or guesses it might run for a couple of days, and what the hell. If it's a schoolyard, it will be hit more often, because writers tend to hang out in schoolyards and parks at night (for drinking, socializing, etc), and they might just hit the wall just for the fuck of it, some new kid comes up with a couple of cans or whatever. Not much stopping that kinda shit, since these folks really don't care if it runs past morning. They're just practicing, scratch pad. New York highways in the 80's and early 90's were beautiful, covered end to end. Then the city started buffing them, often. Now they're hit less frequently, but still hit pretty often. Why? 1) Writers catch flick (pictures) and post them online and 2) It'll still run for a couple of days, and think of the volume you get on, say, the Long Island Expressway on a typical day. It's worth the paint and risk.

As long as it doesn't destroy the functionality - that's what really gets me angry. Demolished playgrounds, burned telephone booths and so on. Not to mention the current big thing: hydrofluoric acid markers. Pens with hydrofluoric acid mixed into the ink, to allow writing on/in glass and on anti-graffiti coated surfaces. They are quite dangerous and cause real damage to buildings, trains and people.

you can't go and draw on something that doesn't belong to you.

Hell, it's easy.

toward what is essentially an act of vandalism.

It's not as if taggers are fighting against the bourgeoisie by painting revolutionary slogans in affluent suburbs. It's more like they're making life more difficult and uglier for working class homeowners and businesses.

If they're so artistic and into self-expression, they should get permission before expressing themselves on someone else's building or an elderly person's garden fence, or else confine their artwork to paper. (If they can afford spray cans, they can afford paper.)

It's actually kind of pathetic when you think of it, that someone's highest aspiration is to have their scrawled, illegible "signature" seen by other misguided fools. Even more pathetic are the ones who put up stickers with their scrawled signatures on them.

I never copped one tag in a suburb. I can't speak to those who do. Moreover, it is not particulaly interesting whether the form is "revolutionary" as a matter of intent. Silly liberal preoccupation to try to evaluat it that way one way or the other.

I will never argue for graffiti "art." It is a sad attempt to normalize the practice, or make it palatable for people who don't get it, or (and I'll nod to this) an attempt to extract value from it by graffiti writers. Notice that nowhere have I used the term "graffiti artist." Graffiti writers refer to themselves as "writers," not "artists" (unless they're surrounded by white wine sipping suckers willing to pay for the thing).

No self-respecting graffiti writer pays for spray paint. :rofl:

No graffii writer gives a fuck what you think about it. Or rather, they want you to oppose it and get all pissy and whine that it's pathetic. That's part of the program.

Cheers.

It just happened in our suburband neighborhood last month. Someone painted gang sign (facsimile's, because they are wannabes) on my neighbor's garage. I cannot get over the complete lack of respect for other people's property anymore. :( :hug:

We live in a town of about 2500. People steal gas out of my tank (until I bought locking gas caps), we've had some minor vandalism, and I've caught a burgler in my house.

It's just what America is now.

Graffiti has been around since the Roman empire, possibly before. Not defending or demonizing it, but it's a fact.

((((grouchy hugs)))))

Seems to be the thing to do for the assholes around here. They smash out all the glass windows. The city keeps replacing them and they keep smashing them.

Hey, here's an idea. Don't replace them with GLASS!