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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:59 PM
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***Fly this one.......or fly home***
Seen on the back of a gigantic SUV today, above an American flag......

Normally, these jokers don't bother me......

But then I got to thinking.....

What if someone flying a Mexican flag were a citizen here?

What if they were honoring their country of origin?

It made me, yes me, mad......:grr: :grr:


What do you think?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:01 PM
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1. I hate that jingoistic shiite.
It's fine to feel pride when you look at the flag, or hear the national anthem. But to use it as a way to cloak your racism and bigotry (which is what these people are doing) really pisses me off too, Peggy.

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:04 PM
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2. My dear SeattleGirl!
Ah, you've hit the nail on the head!

That's exactly how I see it too.........

to cloak your racism and bigotry...

Beautifully put!

:applause: :applause:

Thanks, sweetie!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:05 PM
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4. Welcome!
:loveya:
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:04 PM
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3. Same old,same old Peggy Darlin...
They never change.......I have to go to bed now Darlin.I'll catch you later.
Dont let the bastards grind you down.....All my love Rk:D
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:06 PM
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5. My dear Rory......
Oh, don't worry! I'm not letting the bastards get me down!

Just letting off steam..........

Sweetest of dreams.......:hug:
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:12 PM
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6. All my love.All my kissing.....You dont know
and the rest can be what it wants...Peace and hugs Peggy(I do like hugging).
A breath in and a breath out and the rest is dancing...I said before..mist on a window:bounce:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:15 PM
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7. It's very "Ugly American"
You have a right to be angry. That was a hate-spewing bumper sticker...aimed directly at immigrants.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:18 PM
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9. My dear KC2!
Indeed.....

And the last I heard, we are all immigrants!

Everyone here (or strictly speaking, their ancestors) came from somewhere else.....

Thank you for coming by today........:hug:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:16 PM
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8. I bet you were just itching to lock that bumper.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:20 PM
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11. My dear Rug!
How'd you know???

Nahhhhh......it didn't cross my mind!

You are too funny!

:rofl: :rofl:
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:19 PM
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10. Don't buy in to their hate.
By allowing those idiots to anger you, you have emotionally embraced their message of hate/intolerance. They have successfully transfered their message to you, and you now abet but in a different way. It's still negative, and you are to sweet of a person to carry such a negative mindset.

PS. Come to the Long Beach Antique Fair this Sunday and say hi to me. PM me and I will tell what space I'm in.
Now please have a happy and or kind thought and defeat those bozos.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:22 PM
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12. My dear puerco-bellies.........
No worries.....I'm not mad anymore....I truly am not......

I think what anger I did feel lasted at most a couple of minutes, while I glared at this monstrous SUV......

I am having fun in my thread right now, and your contribution is helping!

I'll PM you in a couple of minutes, OK?

:loveya: :hug:
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:29 PM
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13. K'
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:31 PM
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14. And....you have mail!
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:07 PM
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17. And you have a reply.
Here is some pictures from our (My sweet Ali) first event a month ago







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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:10 PM
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18. OK, OK, now I'm officially drooling!
I'm just going to see if I can make it!

Your stuff looks fabulous.........*sigh*

I just love love love American Indian jewelry!

Thanks!

:grouphug:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:53 PM
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20. ooo, oooo, oooo are you a trader or a silversmith?
I am always looking for real conchos - do you make/sell/have a line on any?
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:09 PM
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21. I am taking a silver working class. Till then I am a trader.
I am having trouble casting silver right now so I'm taking a class starting Jan 3rd. I have also found a caster in next-door Hermosa Beach so I am making some wax models (in between a million other things) and hope to have my own bracelets in my case by summer.

As for the concho's I have a Zuni made (I purchased it directly from the Zuni Artist Co-Op) BEAUTIFUL 500 petite point Sleeping Beauty Squash Blossom belt. The artist is named Martha (That's all the Co-Op manager could remember) The conch's are hand cast, and the turquoise is well set and very pretty. I will take a better picture of it tomorrow (review the third picture down) and post it. If California Peggy can make it to the Long Beach Antique Fair she can relay her impressions. We list it at $740, but since you are a DU'er hmmm.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:38 PM
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23. Yikes, no I mean old style for putting on saddles or bridles, not belt size
and a stone or two, but plain silver is fine. I have a few old ones and a couple I FINALLY found up near Zuni as well, a few years ago. I will try to post a picture.

I would love to be able to buy big pieces, but alas not.

I had a good "crafts" teacher in high school - he was a silversmith in real life so we had access to REALLY good equipment. I sure liked casting over soldering - I have no skill in that area. I will see if I can get a pic of the kind of concho' I am looking for (a little bigger than buttons, say quarter to half dollar size, with a loop on the back)

Sorry to highjack your thread, CPeg!:hi:
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:46 PM
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24. Send me a drawing (rough is fine) about the size you want.
Let me know if you want turquoise, coral, onyx what ever and I will incorporate it into the design. I would not be able to start on it till late January at the earliest.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:13 PM
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25. Here are a few.
Looking at these I would almost actually call them buttons, the one on the piece of leather I made :blush: back in high school. (Teacher had a punch set for them) I made four, one got lost and the other two are on a bridle. They have more of a flat bar on the back so they will fit on a 3/4 or 1 inch wide strap, unlike the others that just have the small loops. The two at the upper left are the ones I got up at the shop (can't remember the name - on the road down from Gallup...aaa can't remember) anyway I use those for ponytail holders. They are hollow and I really would call them buttons

The two at lower left are old, don't know where they came from (my grandfather) and the odd one at upper right is also pretty old I think - it has a tumbling sun/swastika in the center with doesn't show in the pic. I assume that puts it preWW2 but have no idea of its story.



January or even later is fine by me, I won't have much extra $$ for a while but am interested. I would love to find some like the one I made, but with the shaped part bigger. I think the dies (is that what they are called?) are pretty hard to find, though. Or maybe they could be cast?

I have lots of manzanita wood around here if you are up for trading :rofl:

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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:46 PM
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15. Yup, that would piss me off too
I don't fly any flag. Does that mean I should leave?

It infuriates me when people think that the only way to prove patriotism is to blindly embrace a symbol. Especially when it's pretty obvious that the person doesn't understand the history behind the symbol, and in fact, acts in ways that directly contradict the intent.

:patriot:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:52 PM
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16. My dear huskerlaw!
Your incisive thinking is most wonderful!

I agree with everything you said here.....and you said all of it better than I could have.....

Thanks for your contribution! :patriot:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:36 PM
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19. I am home.....
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:21 PM
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26. And indeed you are!
:hi:
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:09 PM
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22. Hey...threadjacking in progress
to send a personal greeting to CaPeg!

I was wondering how many folks would be around that I might still know, and sure enough, CaPeg is rockin' it...as a mod no less....

Hi. I missed you and DU and my small handful of acquaintances. Hope yr still doing yr thing--photography and being luvly and all that--and keeping guys like me in line on these boards. I know my avatar has expired from disuse, but look to see me reinstalled as a member in good standing shortly...

Lovely to see you my dear....

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:24 PM
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27. My dear darkstar!
It has been ages since you've been here!

I am still doing my photography thing, now and then....Look in my journal for the latest thread on that!

I look forward to seeing more of you in the near future...... :hug:

Lovely to see you as well......
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