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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:01 AM
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I hate it when older men lie to me, thinking I'm naive.
I'm resurrecting this former thread... but I want to add in the subject of sex. Why do I keep bumping into older men who think that I'm their play thing, all the while assuming that I am not picking up on their lechery?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5453168
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:32 AM
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1. It's the persistance of hope over reality.....
personally I enjoy ogling a college age girl as much as the next guy but it strictly stops there. I figure if light bounces off her and impacts my eyes that's not my fault. There's no point in actually bothering the poor thing.

Some men my age (40's) and older are just continuing the idiocy they developed in junior high. They never learned and have no intention of starting. You have to learn to swat them down efficiently or wear a hijab or something.

My apologies for us guys. Good luck.
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gr8dane_daddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:34 AM
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2. Writer, what's the story?
older geezer trying to play on younger gal's intellect?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:45 AM
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3. Noted
and logged.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:26 AM
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4. Men are the devil!
Is there a particular reason for resurrecting this? Because I didn't understand it the first time around.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:17 AM
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9. The last time I said 'men are evil',
the thread got locked because it was anti-male or whatever sexist garbage wanted to be applied to it.

The irony was, I was a male at the time. Still am.

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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:43 AM
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5. Men are evil
whats up toy?? :7 :silly:
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:45 AM
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7. That's funny!
Back to grading the work product of our Best & Brightest:nopity:
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 06:44 AM
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6. As an "older" man who has to deal with maybe 100 "younger" women every semester
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 07:10 AM by GalleryGod
I don't know what your attraction problem is,however,you might try checking your "Vibe Disseminator". Having said that, I do take great umbrage with yet another DU blanket assertion concerning men.

You are "Writer", thus...

How about ?
"Buzz off, you old geezer!"

"Excuse me sir, with all due respect, my Dad is YOUNGER than you !"



Good luck with the Attends Crowd.:rofl: Writer.
You are a beauty..I must say.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:08 AM
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8. It's 7 AM, I just woke up, my eye hurts and my throat is dry
I have absolutely no intention of having sex with you snd I'm old.

:silly:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:20 AM
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10. I can say the same thing.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 07:21 AM by HypnoToad
No, I will not go to their house with you without knowing them first. Especially if they come across a certain way (e.g. an ax murderer)

Yes, I know they only want to use me as a 'receptacle' with hands because to them I am nothing more than that.

No, I am not interested in married men (or women). Learn how to read the bloody ad, it's honest and upfront and meant to turn away all the lecherous and I sure as hell will not be involved with a creep who wants to cheat on their spouse. It goes back to that reading thang, the vows are only as worthy as the peoples' ability to live by them.

(The same goes for women who think I am naive too. Fortunately, women expect men to make all the moves... )

I dunno. I should probably ditch mine while time still exists. And exercise to rebuild atrophied muscle, but why should I bother?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:39 AM
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11. men are like dogs, its the smell
I've got 2 bitches in heat right now, and 2 dogs are
prancing around the house growling at everything, putting
all their attention on humping those girls. They smell the
girl and turn in to little 'mr dick's'.

Mr. dicks are pretty predictable, they bump bump bump bump
up against their desire to see if they might find entry,
even if it is the box where said girl is sleeping.

So a mr. dick has smelled you out and is bumping irrationally
probably to himself too.

It takes 2 to tango, a part of you must want the attention,
or you would not be in a conversation with a mr. dick.

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:49 PM
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32. nevermind
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 01:50 PM by idgiehkt
I don't have the energy for this today.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 07:43 AM
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12. At least I know
this thread isn't about me. :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:21 AM
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13. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:31 AM
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14. I think it's a couple of things...
Some older men (not all---see? no sweeping generalizations here! :D) see younger women as naive and trusting, and they seek to take advantage of it. They're used to the media stereotypes and use that basis for their interactions with women. They know that particular shit doesn't work with women their own age.

Also, many men in that particular age group are going through midlife passage (or crisis, or whatever you want to call it) and very restless. Younger women make them feel more virile, and many of them seek to attract as many younger women as they can. It's based in insecurity and low self-esteem.

Additionally, some are just arrogant assholes and jerks. :P

:hi:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:36 AM
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15. Flirting is a wonderful exercise in human contact....
Perhaps it is the O2 tank that I have grown quiet attached to that shields me from romantic connection, but most of the women that I flirt with enjoy it...
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:53 AM
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16. Y'know- I can't really empathize.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 09:53 AM by LaraMN
:shrug:

For the MOST part, I only get back behaviors and responses akin to those which I give out. Sure, there are a few bad nuts in any population of men (or women), but in general, if I conduct myself with respect, I seem to be treated with it, in return.

:shrug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:37 AM
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17. Reciprocity is what I find too, generally speaking.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:33 PM
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19. Sending mixed messages, such as acting coy, being
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 01:21 PM by Karenca
touchy-feely, etc -

Men pick up on these whether you want them to or not.

Alot people act totally different around the opposite sex--many times they're not even aware of their own behavior.

Then again, sometimes they are VERY aware of their own behavior, and then they lament
that they are getting treated like a sex object.

For example:
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151. I am flushed! Here's a picture of my pussy.




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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:55 PM
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33. Right. As my Dad would say, "shit or get off the pot."
:rofl:

I've NO issue with people kidding around with each other, but sending mixed messages is generally not tantamount to engaging in a mutually enjoyable behavior.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:02 PM
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39. The equivalent Brazilian saying: "Ou fode ou sai de cima." -nt
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:08 PM
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40. Like mama said
You can't have it both ways.

:)
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:00 AM
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18. Perhaps these men have a low opinion of women in general
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 11:11 AM by Nikia
They may have always had this attitude or they may have had some kind of failed realationship that has increased their anti women feelings.
You keep on bumping into them because they comprise of a significant amount of the male population in that age group who are not in a happy relationship. They target women younger than them because they see women as sex objects and see only women under a certain age as sexy enough for them.
Evidently you don't immediately tell them to get lost, like several other young women probably have told them when they approached. Are you attracted to older men in general? Where are you meeting these men?
I just read the link to your other thread about being attracted to older men. I think that men who pursue married women have an increased chance of being this way. Perhaps, you should decided what you really want in regards to your relationship with your husband. If you only want friendship with older guys, then make that clear from the beginning. If you want an affair, be aware that men who would have an affair with you, being married, are more likely to be like this.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:31 PM
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35. I agree with this:
"You keep on bumping into them because they comprise of a significant amount of the male population in that age group who are not in a happy relationship."

As far as educational institutions go, I've experienced it, my sister has experienced it, three of my friends have with the same professor. It's so mundane it's a cliche. It's possible also that if the man is attached he loves his wife but also feels entitled to some hot monkey love outside of the bounds of his marriage. And there are enough young impressionable women around reinforcing his feeling that he can and should have it. I once had a PhD of some stripe put the major moves on me one day when I was working as a cashier and we were in the store alone. He was unnattractive, so say the least, but we got into an intellectual conversation and he moved closer and closer. He had bought some kind of health food snack, and he took a bite of it and then leaned in and asked me if I wanted a bite. We were talking about linguistics and he noted the similarity of German and Hindi and then segued into the phallic shape of the mosques in the middle east and eastern europe. And then I told him my age and you should have seen the shock on his face. I was 33, but you could tell he was thinking more along the lines of 23 or so. It cracked me up, and still does, to see on his face his realization that he'd mis-judged me and he was dealing with a woman instead of a girl.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:46 PM
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20. Fugly 31 yr olds don't have this problem.
In fact a fugly any year old doesn't have this problem. I know.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:47 PM
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21. I liked older men in my early 20s, and dated my college professors.
They all thought they could totally own me, like a child or a pet.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:06 PM
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22. Yes, it must suck
being hit on all the time. :eyes:

I'm trying to be sympathetic...I guess I'm just bitchy today. I'm invisible (IRL), so I can't relate to your dilemma anyway. :shrug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:09 PM
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23. bah!
I just saw you in another thread, no way you are invisible!

:waves:

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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:14 PM
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25. Well thank you for the compliment
However, I am truly invisible. I never get hit on. I never get leered at. I may be totally oblivious, but I doubt it.

Just this past week, I went out with a girlfriend to a bar...nada...It's the young flouncy chicks, who act stupid with tight shirts and short skirts who get the attention. Not middle-aged mommies...go figure :rofl:
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:16 PM
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26. Yeah, I've even seen pictures of you, and....
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 01:19 PM by chaska
I wanna be your baby' daddy. ;)

Smile! ...or die tryin'.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:19 PM
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27. How about Sugar Daddy?
I'm going to be needing one of those soon!

:rofl:
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:24 PM
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28. Uh, moi aussi, unfortunately. You think we can we get Brad and Angelina to adopt us?
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:12 PM
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24. Hey, it's a two way street. I had a 9 month relationship with someone half my age....
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 01:48 PM by chaska
(42 - 21). SHE initiated it. And you know what, it worked pretty darn well while it lasted. But of course it couldn't last (I'm not John Derrick (as in Bo Derrick) in other words, not rich, etc.).

Sorry to disappoint, but I get attention from young women all the time. I guess I look a bit younger than my years, but....

What's more, I don't think I need to apologize for having sexual urges. In order to gratify those urges contact and interaction with another human is necessary. Sometimes feathers are ruffled; unfortunate, but inevitable. And forgive me if my taste in women includes a pretty wide range of ages.

And lastly, I'm not in the least predatory, lecherous, etc. I try to always treat people with the respect I would want to recieve.

There are villains out there, of course there are, but careful with that broad brush.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:37 PM
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30. As an older guy I totally agree.
No need to apologize for having basic human needs. As far as ages, as long as it's consenting adults it's all good to me.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:30 PM
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29. older men are just like other men
we're all boys and we never grow up.

our thought process is like this:

sex-beer-sex-sex-football-sex-sex-food-sex-sex-beer-sex-sex-sleep-sex

you call it "horny" when it's a younger man and "lechery" when it's an older man, but it's really all the same thing.

we don't really care if you pick up on it or not, we just want to know if you'll do it or not
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:44 PM
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31. this too shall pass...
... and probably sooner than one thinks.


That's why I've never complained about that kind of attention. Because I know it won't last forever.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:21 PM
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34. What exactly do you mean by "older"?
Aren't you in your thirties? How many years difference does their have to be before you consider them that way?
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Ms_Dem_Meanor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:02 PM
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36. They are like younger men...
they only think with one thing- their behinds!!! Thought I was going to say something else!! :rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 04:06 PM
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37. Balances off against all the 39 year old women who've hit on me.
Lying isn't confined to a gender or age group. I dislike liars, no matter the gender or age or purpose for lying.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:35 PM
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38. Hope springs eternal in the human heart (and other places)
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