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Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 11:32 AM by ForrestGump
The chicks Julia Roberts Yep. I always throught she was way, way overrated both as an actress and as a 'beauty.' Then I saw "Noting Hill" and both views changed, and I also thought she was great in "Erin Brocavich." Still, I'd agree that she's overrated in terms of her looks, which is the whole focus of this thread.
Jennifer Lopez I think she's pretty pretty - perhaps I should admit having tended to have a high degree of attraction to certain Hispanic women (and, also Asian women, African-heritage women, Polynesian women, Native-American women, Caucasian women, any other women that I may have inadvertently left out, and mixtures thereof). Anyway, her babeliness aside, I think she's overrated in everything that she does more than in the way she looks. But, yeah, given the degree of gushing that goes on about her looks, perhaps she isn't beautiful enough to meet the standard that the gushers set. Not to sound Mr Blackwell here - I'm not saying she's not beautiful, or that physical beauty (a nebulous concept, even toward its endpoints) is even important, but that's just the context of this thread, merely looking at these people as 2-D representations of attempts at some impossible-to-define ideal.
Pamela Anderson Maybe she's a more worthwhile person than her interviews would suggest but, though her body's spectacular, I don't find her particularly attractive. Even forgetting the kind of unattractive feeling that she projects (I hate to use the word 'slut' but, come on, that's the image that she so carefully cultivates) she's just too dependent on makeup to paint a becoming picture, and the end result is strangely unbecoming. Sure, if I was naked in a room with her (and adequately protected) I'd undoubtedly be blown away by her beauty but, apart from the fact that love (and lust) is blind, Little Forrest has different criteria for beauty. Yeah, I've seen those pictures of her without her makeup and, though the tabloids inevitably pick the most unflattering frame if it suits their point, it's not a pretty sight......I'd guess primarily because of her hard-living ways and the abuse she puts her body through. She's still young and yet she's aged beyond belief thanks to the party-girl life. She'd probably look a lot better after a good, long break from it all. Come, we go camping in the redwoods, naked.....
Sarah Jessica Parker I guess I never 'got' her alleged beauty, either. She's maybe not classically beautiful, whatever that is - heck, for all I know, she's the very definition of classic beauty. Anyway, again comparing the way her looks affect me to the gushing over her perfection, I'd say that she's generally overrated. That's not to say that she does not look good or has beauty. And, again, if she got tired of Mr Broderick and split with him to move in with me (hey! it could happen!), and she was a good person, I sure wouldn't put up a fight.
Cameron Diaz Kinda gives me the heebie-jeebies. It's not so much the Pez-dispenser mouth that many find so attractive (ditto Julia Roberts) it's just something else. Heck, I've seen many women with wide mouths who I think are stunningly beautiful - I hereby retract the Pez-dispenser description, actually, in their memory. Plus she looks way skinnier now than she did before, though not as afflicted as Lara Flynn Boyle in that picture that was posted here a while back. Maybe that's her optimal weight, though, and she's healthy. Whatever, though I think she's attractive and cute (and almost a dead ringer for one of my very first loves), I'd have to say that she's overrated, too.
Jennifer Anniston Same with this one. A few years ago, when everyone was raving about her hair, I failed to see what was so special about either her hair or her storied face. I didn't even see "Friends" until last year and I have to say that she's not what I would call beautiful - well, I don't know: maybe the pieces aren't but, put it all together, and she does look appealing and has a beauty about her. Usual disclaimers about 'what is beauty' and 'does the physical even matter' applying here, of course. I agree that she kind of has a mannish quality about her face, sort of strange because she's so petite, but part of her real beauty, I think, is that she looks more realistically beautiful than do many of our modern ideals of perfect beauty. What some might consider 'flawed' physical beauty can be the most alluring kind of all. Regardless, I'd have to say that she's overrated - again, as with most of these people, that's as much or far more a function of people hyping them as immensely beautiful than it is a reflection on their actual physical appeal. If I saw Jennifer A. walking down the street I'd go "whoa.....what a babe!," but having the entire celebrity-dazzled media tell me that she's a veritable goddess kind of sets up unrealistic expectations.
The dudes Here it gets harder for me (no, not that way, you buncha perverts!) because the physical-attraction thing's MIA (or, at least, tuckeed so far back in the recesses of my psyche that I may never find it even if I looked for it), but I can still recognize male beauty, I think.
Brad Pitt I can see how people find him so appealing, physically, in body and in his face. I think he's good-looking, and he seems like a cool dude (and down-to-earth) but, again, he's been sold as this almost-impossible-to-realize ideal of male perfection and I don't know that anyone could live up to that. His features don't add up to 'attractive,' I think but - like his wife and others above - the overall package has appeal, enhanced by his smile. Sure, overrated, but still a good-looking guy.
Tom Cruise Almost the same story, except that I think he adds up to less in the looks department. Vastly overrated back in the '80s, for sure, but hardly and ugly little dude. Tell you one thing, though, if I were female the guy from "Top Gun" that I'd have been squealing over would have been Val Kilmer rather than Tom Cruise. Well, maybe not 'sqealing'.......
Leonardo diCaprio Overrated to the max, as both an actor and as a 'hunk.' Bleh. Actively annoys me to see him on screen. I'm not quite sure what it is about him, but he's just immeasurably irritating to me.
Ben Affleck I never saw "Good Will Hunting," somehow (hope to rememdy that one of these days), so perhaps I missed his best acting turn yet. But from what evidence I have seen he seems rather overrated as an actor - in the sense that, even if he got bad reviews for it he's still overrated by virtue of the fact that they even let him still make films - and kind of a non-event as a physical specimen. I guess he's good looking, but I'd hope that nobody defines that unattainable male ideal by his face.
Finally, I agree with dfong63 - I don't think any of these people can be called 'ugly' in terms of looks (they're still all probably above-average on the scale if you could define a scale of handsomeness/beauty) but it is a good thing that people who are not flawless in their looks can achieve success in an industry noted for its superficiality. Sure, it's still not a very open door in that respect, but it is interesting that some of the men and women presented to us as physical ideals are arguably outstripped by some of the people that we see in our everyday lives.
Still, I don't know how many 'ordinary-looking' people make it big in movies and TV these days (certianly more men than women, I'd bet). The bottom line is that physical looks do not comprise real beauty or, at least, are not the totality of it.
EDIT: fixed about eight million of the most egregious spelling mistakes....the rest I apologize for
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