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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:55 AM
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Pentecostal Bus Driver Suing New York For Firing Her For Refusing To Wear Pants
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NEW YORK, May 31 A bus driver of the Pentecostal faith said she may sue the New York Transit Association for firing her just because she refused to wear pants.

Tahita Jenkins, 33, explained to her bosses that the standard issue bus driver's uniform, which required the wearing of pants, was against her religion, The New York Post reported Thursday.

She even went as far as to bring in a note from her pastor at the Holy Ghost Headquarters Prayer Band Mission of New Beginning Deliverance Church in Far Rockaway, in the New York borough of Queens, requesting that she be allowed to wear a skirt at work.

But even that didn't work and officials in the transit department insisted that she must either wear pants or culottes or lose her job.

Transit officials fired Jenkins on Tuesday and she is now considering filing a lawsuit.

A similar suit involving Brinks Inc., the armored security service, resulted in a Pentecostal woman being awarded $30,000 and offered her job back, although she had to wear culottes as a compromise.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/68093.html
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:01 AM
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1. My religion requires me to wear sweat pants and pocket-Ts to the office.
It also requires that I sleep until 10 a.m. every day so I can stay up to watch Conan.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:03 AM
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2. My religion requires me to get paid for work I *don't* do
Because trading labor for money is evil.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:53 AM
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16. Only if you're on conference staff.
Oops! Pardon my cynicism.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:43 AM
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3. Sorry. I think she's right
It's well known that Pentecostal women don't wear pants. It's not a scam. It's actually part of her religion. Just as a devout Muslim woman would have the right to cover her head, so this woman has the same right. I can't see how it would affect her job performance.

In my area, public school kids wear uniforms (started a few years ago). Pentecostal girls are the only ones in skirts. Otherwise, everyone has to wear pants.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:52 AM
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4. I agree. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:56 AM
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5. But they don't have the right to cover their face for drivers license photo
or be in a bank that has a prohibition against hats, or covering the face.
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:05 AM
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6. There is a world of difference
Wearing a skirt vs pants isn't considered a safety issue, which a bank would considered a masked person to be.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:26 AM
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7. *sigh*
I'm sorry, but that church's name is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.

It's stupid both ways. Stupid she can't wear a skirt, but also I'll never understand why religion has to dictate what people wear.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:29 AM
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8. in some work places it is a matter of safety
I worked in a factory and steel toe boots were a requirement along with a hard hat and goggles...you couldn't be in the factory without them....you also were required to wear pants (jeans) and skirts were a big no no because a long skirt could get caught in equipment ...
...those were the days....where dressing for work didn't cost much...

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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:34 AM
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10. That I can understand...
if it's for her safety she needs to suck it up or find another job. c'est la vie...
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:15 AM
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12. I imagine that a dress could be more hazardous in the event
of a crash or a fire - but I think the bus company should have to present some evidence of that beyond so-called 'common sense.'
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:22 AM
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13. I have been tossing this one about and the only kind of skirts or dresses
that would be a hazard for bus drivers...here are my scenarios..

1. really long dresses/skirts are a hazard when going up and down steps which buses have. Which is why "ladies" must hold on to the rail and lift the skirt up enough to give your feet clearance on the steps...and while most of us think of long skirts for formal wear...women like pentecostals wear long skirts to cover their sexy ankles.

2. Dresses/skirts that are too tight might make walking difficult...or leg movement difficult...

3. If you were expected to repair or do anything to the bus...dresses/skirts aren't so useful when crawling under a vehicle..

4. Some skirts are forbidden in workplaces because they are too "sexy" and could be distracting...(however in this woman's case that would not be the issue).

5. I wear a lot of long skirts and I find they get caught on stuff...(I wear the gauzy hippy type skirts)...


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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:31 AM
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9. What reason do they have for not allowing skirts?
I'd have to know what problem they have with her wearing a skirt. If it's just that it isn't the uniform, then I agree with her. But maybe they have a legitimate reason for requiring pants, like some kind of safety thing? I can't imagine what when just driving a bus, but then that's not a job I've had so I don't want to assume.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:41 AM
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14. my guess:
I doubt it is a safety issue if it is bus-driving.

The city probably requires uniformity of appearance so that legitimate drivers are instantly recognized as such. The uniform campany either does not provide skirts or the city had to choose one or the other. Having chose pants, the city probably was not able to acquire uniform skirts without considerable expense. Another possibility is that the uniforms are unisex.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:11 AM
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11. She should be able to wear a skirt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:52 AM
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15. She's right on this. I don't see how the courts could rule otherwise.
Many, not all, Pentecostal churches believe men and women should wer different clothing as a way of not blurring what they see as their differing social roles. And yes, there are passages of scripture they quote to support this belief. It may not make you or I comfortable, but we don't always get to be comfortable. C'est la vie.

I had a friend in high school who belonged to the Church of God in Christ. She got a job at McDonald's and when it came time to get her uniform, which included pants, they were great about accomodating her need to wear a skirt. She had to wear the uniform top, but could wear any skirt that went with it, except denim--to look "professional" (at McDonald's, yeah, I know). So, she wore her unifrom with blue or brown skirts, and all went well.

I also have several friends who are Apostolic Christian. They have to wear skirts, too. It's amazing how good they are at getting around, moving, working, doing things I would NEVER consider doing except in pants. It's second nature to them.

I suspect this woman could do her job just as well in a skirt. Since the transit authority is a government entity, she'll win on constitutional grounds.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:54 AM
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17. The article doesn't say if the policy changed after she hired on
If she was already working there and they changed the policy I think she is justified.

if she took the job knowing the dress code interfered with her religious beliefs then not so much.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:57 AM
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18. Britney Spears' religion is not to wear underpants and show us the proof as often as possible.
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