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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:58 PM
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So i just watched Pan's Labyrinth - spoilers
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 06:59 PM by Ava
It was a good movie and the direcion was great along with the acting. It's not a movie I'll watch again just because it's one of those movies that just wouldn't be as good the second time around and also due to the fact that is has some pretty graphic violence and physiologically messed up scenes.

For those who have seen it I ask you this: Do you think that she created her own world within her imagination to escape the one which she lived in? Or do you think that all that she saw really did happen?
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:02 PM
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1. I think it really happened. n/t
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:05 PM
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2. see i think it was just an imagined reality that she created
to escape the real life she lived that absolutely sucked :shrug:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:07 PM
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3. I really like that movie
I think she created her own world...taking bits and pieces from the various fantasy books she read. The story became darker when her life got darker.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:09 PM
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5. see that's what i also think
the movie was good though like i said i don't think i'll be watching it again.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:08 PM
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4. i think she hallucinated it, it opened with her at the beginning at the place
she died.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:10 PM
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6. it opened with the end of the movie - yes
but how does that change any of it? btw, i also believe she imagined it all. ;) :hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:11 PM
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7. because in the beginning she had already been shot but we didn't know that so
i think she was in a coma or just suffering from massive blood loss and she hallucinated it the whole thing, well except for the very end when we see her getting shot.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:33 PM
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9. aha - so you believe she hallucinated it all while dying
and not in real time?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:35 PM
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11. yes, i think it was all a big flashback in fairytale form.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:37 PM
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12. oh, ok
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 07:37 PM by Ava
see i think she imagined it all in real time as her normal life went along. all of that which happened that was "magical" was imagined and all of that which was realistic and not out of a fairy tale was real. however - seeing as what happened to her mother, you may be right.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:25 PM
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8. I loved that movie
the only scene that I won't watch again is where the one guy gets his mouth cut, and then when he sews it up... no thank you.

I think she made it up; children fantasize all the time, and this is a beautiful example of it... though, there is that element of "maybe it IS real" in the film. I don't think it's supposed to be definite one way or the other
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:34 PM
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10. i liked it - didn't love it thought
but i thought like i said the direction and acting were great.

and yes, i think you are right about the creators leaving a "is it real or not" big question mark at the end.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:52 PM
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13. Interview with the writer-director
was on NPR's Fresh Air on the 18th of May. Might answer some of your questions:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10266161

:hi:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:57 PM
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14. my question wasn't what really happened
but rather what my fellow du'ers percieved and what conclusions they came to at the end of the movie. ;) :hi:

thanks for the link, i'll check it out.
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My Good Babushka Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:26 PM
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15. It doesn't really matter
I think you miss the point of the film, if that's the biggest conundrum you are taking away. They are two complete stories about questioning authority and trusting yourself and making the ultimate sacrifice. An American filmmaker would never intertwine fantasy and history like Del Toro did. I think to an American, that would be trivializing the subject, but in Pan's Labyrinth both stories are so poignant and complete. It was quite an experience to watch. I hope to see it again.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:17 PM
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17. aha - so i see. because i'm an american i don't get it?
silly me! i didn't think it mattered whether it was real or not, but i was curious to see what other's thought of the film's end. how very american of me!


seriously - i was just curious to see what others thought of the ending. i think you missed the point of my post.
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:11 PM
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16. I was on the fence about real/fantasy until---
she escapes from the locked room at the top of the house, her only possible exit the "chalk door". For me that meant either it was all real, or all fantasy. I prefer to think all real.:)
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