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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:56 PM
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What do you think is the worst mistake in history?
I would say the beginnings of religions that feel they are the only true religions, and therefore have the right to impose their beliefs on others. I have to wonder how many wars would never have been fought and how many lives would have been saved without these religions.

My second choice would be the election(?) of bush.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:58 PM
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1. I don't know! That sure is a toughie! But the invention of the
atomic and nuclear bombs maybe! :shrug:

Those are just scary!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:14 PM
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12. Marshmallows in a tube
That stuff is just...nasty
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:02 PM
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2. Somehow I think the appointment of Hitler as Chancellor might be a little worse than Bush's election
I dunno, that's just me.
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:30 PM
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34. I think that
the problems bush has caused in our country and other parts of the world will be with us for decades to come.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:03 PM
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3. Poppy not pulling out in time
:cry:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:03 PM
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4. Operation Barbarossa
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:12 PM
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11. I think that was the beginning of the end for Nazis
so it's a mixed thing. They might have won a "one-front" war. Interesting "what-if".

Attack a country with a brazillion soldiers and bad weather ... great decision.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:15 PM
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14. Yes, the thread was kind of ambiguous about it being the worst or biggest
I see them as the same thing, in an objective light.

Invading Russia created a shitstorm for years to come
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:17 PM
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15. and you'd think they would have learned from Napoleon.
Lost his entire army.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:07 PM
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21. According to one history I read
Some high ranking Nazis thought Russian citizens would turn against Stalin if the USSR was invaded.
Sound familiar? The same "we'll be greeted as liberators" nonesense Cheney embraced.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:01 PM
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43. the germans DID think the Soviet captive nations would be so eager to be..
...rid of Communism they would join the Germans right away.....surprise, surprise...

ALTHOUGH....I have read that the Soviets first tried to exort the citizenry to fight the Germans with a 'defend the revolution' slant.
It didn't work.
but when they shifted the emphasis to 'defend your families and the motherland' the soviets began to fight like mad.
(please don't ask me for a source...)
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:57 PM
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41. Mistake for Hitler, yes...but for the Allies...it led to the annihilation of..
...millions of German troops and was a major factor in WWII victory.,
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:04 PM
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5. when that first pre-mammalian fish-like creature crawled out of the sea
Things could have been so much simpler, I tell you.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:20 PM
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19. ahh, the famous Douglas Adams HHGTTU line...
Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move and they should have never left the oceans."

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:08 PM
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6. Not locking my circle jerk thread
It's gone rapidly downhill. :blush:
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:19 PM
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17. LOL!
:thumbsup:
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:10 PM
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7. The concept of the Organized Military Army.
No Contest.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:11 PM
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8. I kinda think those wars would have been fought regardless...
I kinda think those wars would have been fought regardless, the leaders would've simply found another justification.

Let's see, the biggest "D'oh!" moment in history... the invention of shrink wrap, and glue stronger than packing boxes for consumer goods. Yeah, it's not a doozy, but it's made me curse more in my life than anything else.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:12 PM
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9. move from hunter-gather society to domesticating crops.
Led to environmental destruction, the ability to support massive populations of humans, concentrations of wealth (and corresponding wars over it), and the ability of humans to live out of balance with nature.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:12 PM
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10. That blind date I had back in 71.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:14 PM
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13. Ending the production of the banana cream Twinkie.
I doubt we'll ever recover as a society.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:17 PM
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16. But now its back!!!!
I've never had one! I wonder if they will be as good as the originals!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:20 PM
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18. I know. But all those lost years. All those who died without ever
tasting the goodness that is the banana cream twinkie. Such a waste. :P
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:29 PM
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20. IBTL!
Cause that sounds just really sinful. :P
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:47 PM
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26. I'm pining for Chocolate Dream Whip!
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RogueSpirit Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:17 PM
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22. The Crucifixion of Jesus
Deistic discussion aside, this execution opened a big can of worms.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:26 PM
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31. i didn't know that fictitious events counted.
nt
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RogueSpirit Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:33 PM
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44. Historical accounts state
A man was crucified that was a teacher of a small but growing band of people. That band of people were the first Christians. Whether or not he was a deity is irrelevant in regards to my answer to the OP's question.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:38 PM
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45. Which accounts were these?
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:53 PM
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54. I think that the only information on all this is from the
Council of Nicea circa 324 AD.
I think Constantine just put together a bunch of stuff
to support his own aspirations.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:54 PM
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46. link please?
what historical accounts...? :shrug:
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:10 PM
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52. Maybe this one...quick google search
"Scholars must therefore look to other sources to corroborate the existence of Jesus, Kloppenborg says. One such source is Jewish historian Josephus, who compiled a history of the Jewish people and gave a fairly neutral account of Jesus: "About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, for he did very many surprising deeds and he was a teacher of such people as accepted the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many Greeks…And this tribe of Christians as we call them now has not died out even to our day," Josephus wrote. Josephus had little reason to invent this account, and his description of Jesus does not seem dependent on any Christian accounts of Jesus. In addition, there are brief mentions of Jesus by the Roman historian Tacitus and a Syrian philosopher named Mara bar Sarapion and, later, in the Babylonian Talmud."

http://www.newsandevents.utoronto.ca/bios/askus50.htm

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:25 PM
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53. nothing in there about non-biblical crucfixion accounts...
nt
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:00 PM
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56. That certainly did cause a lot of trouble, but..
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 09:01 PM by mvd
being a liberal Christian, I see it as a necessary thing overall. It seems man would have had useless wars over religion regardless.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:46 PM
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23. The Great Leap Forward
and the Cultural Revolution of Mao Zedong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

The Great Leap Forward is now widely seen, both within China and outside, as a major economic disaster, effectively being a "Great Leap Backward" that would affect China in the years to come. As inflated statistics reached planning authorities, orders were given to divert human resources into industry rather than agriculture. The official toll of excess deaths recorded in China for the years of the GLF is 14 million, but scholars have estimated the number of famine victims to be between 20 and 43 million.<4> The three years between 1959 and 1962 were known as the "Three Bitter Years" and the Three Years of Natural Disasters. Many local officials were tried and publicly executed for giving out misinformation<5>.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:49 PM
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24. Paul McCartney releasing a mandolin song
:shrug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:46 PM
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25. #1 = The destruction of the library at Alexandria.
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 03:49 PM by WinkyDink
#2 = The Industrial Revolution (call me crazy!): slums; child labor; pillaging of the planet;pollution (AKA, Global Warming); and all the deadly war machines that have come forth.



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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:59 PM
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27. Green ketchup.
I got nothin'.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:05 PM
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28. Stealing skyrockets from children and giving them to the Generals
We were naive.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:25 PM
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29. that constantine wasn't killed at birth.
so now we have christianity to deal with.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:26 PM
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30. Yeah, that was a bad movie...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:30 PM
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33. Agreed (n/t)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:29 PM
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32. The Holy Roman Empire
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:30 PM
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35. Chamberlain @ Munich
That was a big one...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:34 PM
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36. Kennedy assassination.
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 04:36 PM by BlueIris
Whichever dipshit fascist greenlighted that...I would say I hope he died at some point, but I hope he's still alive somewhere (allegedly, most of them are).

That may have been the death knell for civlization right there. I hope the assassins get to suffer the bitter end along with the rest of us.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:46 PM
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37. Bill Buckner, game 6, '86 series - Then I would have to say Pearl Harbor
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 04:47 PM by new_beawr
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:47 PM
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38. Allowing the election of 2000 to be stolen without a fight.
It's all been downhill since then. 'Nuf said.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:51 PM
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39. I think all religions start as a form of local gov't
for a tribe or a clan...a way to control the sexual activities of the members as well as the rituals around events like birth and death. What spreads the religion from one people to the next is rarely peaceful conversion, so that is probably the worst oft-repeated mistake in history.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:52 PM
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40. That Hitler's mother didn't get an abortion.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:58 PM
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42. Believe it or not . . .
I once heard that she considered doing just that. Don't know if it's true or not.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:55 PM
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47. trusting whitey
ooops
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:55 PM
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48. in american history: the genocide of the native american people.
nt
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:00 PM
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49. Those wars would have been fought anyway - war is about resources, not religion.
Religion is often used to spur the people to action, or to find a justification, but it's rarely, if ever, actually about the religion.

If not religion, then it's patriotism. If not patriotism, then its racial. If not racial, then it's just "You want them marrying your sister?" kinda crap.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:02 PM
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50. Teaching women how to talk.
Ba-dum-dum.

Rimshot.

:hide:

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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:04 PM
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51. Sorry.
That genie's out of the bottle. And besides, women have better verbal skills. :evilgrin:
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:56 PM
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55. Well, sending elephants through the alps sure was a bad idea BUT I'd say not killing the colonists.
Bad mistake not killing the European colonists.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:04 PM
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58. New Coke
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:03 PM
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57. The Holocaust - more than just a mistake
Then the selection of Bush.
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