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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:10 PM
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Montana Has The Deadliest Roads In Country - The Safest? MASSACHUWHAT?
WASHINGTON --Montana's highways are the deadliest. Forty-two percent of West Virginia's roads are too narrow. Some of the worst traffic is in California, Minnesota, New Jersey and North Carolina.

A study released Thursday found that traffic congestion and highway fatalities have increased slightly even as road conditions have improved in recent years. The findings are based on data from 1984 through 2005.

North Dakota and South Carolina roads rated highest in the overall rankings; New Jersey's were the lowest.

The state-by-state evaluation was conducted by the University of North Carolina at Charlotte and financed by the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank based in Los Angeles.

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Montana had the deadliest roads, with 2.3 fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles traveled. Massachusetts roads were the safest, with a death rate of 0.8.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/06/28/study_ranks_states_by_road_condition/
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:12 PM
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1. I'm surprised the article didn't mention MD...
Now what about Delaware?

:hide:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:13 PM
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2. What? What the hell?
:rofl::rofl:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:15 PM
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3. Massachusetts may have safe roads... But, it's the drivers who kill.
Hey! What about Bectel's tunnel of doom?!?!
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 03:34 PM
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14. Agreed
Mass and RI have the worst drivers evAH!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:16 PM
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4. I'm willing to bet that Wyoming's roads are due to excessive speed
with alcohol in the mix too

My folks like out in the Shennandoah Valley and the first year at that high school they lost something like 16 kids to car crashes. All do to flying down the country roads LATE AT NIGHT ;-)
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:19 PM
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5. yup, and I've driven in Boston.
Kindof hard to die traveling at 2mph.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:24 PM
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6. I believe it. Arizona's got nice roads too. Roads aren't the problem.
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 03:24 PM by Alexander
The idiot drivers are the problem.

In Arizona's case, they have some of the most lax licensing requirements in the country - and I've heard they allow more mistakes and wrong answers than any other state.

I got my license renewed here in AZ, and it doesn't expire until I'm 65, in 2048. Sixty-Five. I guess the DMV figures I'll still look like I'm 20 at that point.

In Connecticut, if I forgot to put the parking brake on after I parked, game over: no license.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:38 PM
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8. First time I took the written exam in AZ, it was scary. Most questions about how many points
for each stupid ass thing they expected you would be doing and how many points you could rack up before they took back the license. A-MAZING.

My pal in Green Valley loves the bumper sticker commonly seen there:
Helen Keller is alive & driving in Green Valley

That being said, I have to deal with the situation in MT again now. Lots of really tired truckers on lonely roads. People from small populations trying to deal with urban traffic which the roads can't handle safely. New urban populations not used to snow/ice/buffalo. Then, there's the trouble that ensues when the deer and the antelope play...

Hunting season is especially interesting. I just try to stay indoors. Too much Bud and too little common sense exhibited by the tourist-hunters. It isn't pretty.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:50 PM
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9. RE: Arizona
Yep. My wife still has her AZ license even though we have moved back to Colorado.

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 02:59 PM
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12. they'll call you back in every decade or so for a new photo
(and suspend the license if you don't comply)
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 03:21 PM
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13. I think its fantastic...
Forces you, when youre right about that age, to retake the tests and see if you are still ok to drive. And we dont have the madness of goin and renewing every however often.

Only drawback is the weird ass looks you get going into bars in other states, instantly looks fake..
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:38 PM
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7. Its Actually Texas!!!!
:rofl: :rofl:

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 06:49 PM
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10. Where was Virginia ranked?
I'm sure their safety ranks have dropped with Teen Midlo behind the wheel.
:D
(I'm sorry I just can't resist)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 02:39 PM
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11. BULLSHIT!.
She's a very good driver. :hide:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 03:47 PM
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15. MA roads are safe if you are crazier than the other driver
I know...I used to drive a tour trolley. And yes, I was crazier than most.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 10:40 PM
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16. There's a reason for that
1) Very few people live in Montana...there are, at present, ten cities in the United States (New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas and San Jose) that have higher populations than the entire state of Montana.

2) I'm bettin' that about half the vehicle traffic in Montana is long-haul truck traffic. Semis don't get into minor accidents, especially with a car on the receiving end.

3) Interstate 90 through Montana is a unique piece of road, with respect to the exits. On most interstates, an exit is this big complex thing with a bridge running across the roadbed and lots of signage. On Montana's hunk of I-90, which is lined with farms, if you want to use the freeway as a farm access road you petition the state, they come out and install one sign, and you borrow a D-6 Cat (assuming you don't have one of your own) to build a little road leading off the hardball. Presto: "farm access" exit, one each, dirt in color. Combine this with...

4) In the middle of the state, where the farms are, there ain't a hell of a lot of cops. There IS, OTOH, about three hundred miles of laser-straight--but NOT laser-flat--roadbed. The old speed limit was "reasonable and prudent" which was governmentese for "don't kill yourself." Too many people read this as "what the car will do." Add to that all the dump trucks full of grain on the public roads, and think: if you come over a hill doing 130 or so and you see a dump truck toolin' along at about 25 in your lane, if you don't react immediately you are going to die...and the kid driving the dump truck probably isn't going to suffer more than moderate bruising.

Combine a relatively very low number of vehicle-miles driven with unbelievable speed differentials and the kind of accidents people don't walk away from, and Montana, which is actually a very safe state to drive in because the vehicle density is so low and the roads are good, will rack up a very bad-looking statistic. Massachusetts' roads are so tightly packed you can't get a playing card between two cars' bumpers, which does two things for them--runs up the vehicle-mile numbers, and keeps speed differentials low enough it's hard to get enough force together to kill someone in the crash.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 10:58 PM
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17. NJ had a net population loss of over 60,000 last year
Which means in a couple of years I can get to work in 9 minutes instead of 10 minutes.


NJ road conditions and traffic suck. Too narrow, feeder roads usually single lane, state highways never kept up with growth. And Bush hates us, so we got screwed on some highway funding last few years. Something about godless heathens.
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