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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:13 AM
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Anyone own a Prius
My wife is looking for a new car and wants to get a Prius. On the plus side, it averages 55 mpg. On the negative, it's expensive and you can't get a nickel off the list price or even a good deal on a trade-in since they never sit on the lot more than a day. Anyone have one and have any positive/negative things to say about it? I'll check back end of the day to see if anything's posted. Thanks.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:14 AM
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1. Don't own one but drove a friends
It was a really nice car and easy to drive
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:22 AM
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2. Listen, this is the world wide web right?
WWW.toyota.com

On the front page they have a link to current deals. They have been advertising a great Prius lease in NY Metro for weeks now.

Regarding a nickle off on a new or used one, so be it. Dealers have to give away cars because people think there's a huge mark up like food or retail products. They deserve to make some money for a change.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 03:56 PM
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11. You cant get the tax break if you lease one.
I was looking at that option but then the dealer dropped that little nugget of information... no thanks, on to Honda!

After doing some further checking, that rule at least holds true in California. Not sure if it does in other states.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:00 AM
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15. You could buy a real American car instead
Saturn Vue Green maybe, Ford Escape Hybrid, but no, bye bye dollars, enjoy your trip to Japan.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:43 AM
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3. Two years without any trouble.
Yes, I really do get average mileage in the fifties. 55.7 mpg, over 500 miles into my current tank; I'll probably need to fill up again tomorrow.

I'm nearly six-feet-two, and even the back seats fit me with plenty of room to spare. With seats folded down, I've been able to transport ten-foot-long packages. It's not a small car, and seats four comfortably.

Rear visibility is poor--but it still beats the heck out of that in the '93 Paseo it replaced.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:48 AM
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6. Ditto on rear visibilty.
Get in the habit of looking over your right shoulder before changing lanes, eh?
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:04 PM
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13. don't you have the camera thingie?
or does that only work in reverse?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:19 PM
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14. I don't.
I think that was unavailable in America in '05--maybe--but I wouldn't want to have to use a dash display, anyway, for switching lanes and such.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:46 AM
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4. Go to cars.com
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 11:48 AM by supernova
and look at cars for sale in your area. You will get a feel for what's available before you start slogging around the the dealships.


edit: Add to say you can search on any make/model you want, even Priuses. You might be able to find a gently used (one or two years old) Prius you can afford too. Something to think about.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:47 AM
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5. Worth every penny I paid, and then some.
First, the mileage. They don't get 55 unless you drive like a miser watches his purse. But they get considerably higher than any other car driven the same way. My spouse used to drive a minivan that was supposed to get 20 mpg, and she got 15 in it. That's because of where she works and the traffic patterns to get there. In the Prius, she gets about 39 mpg--horrible for a Prius, but great for any other car driven in the same way.

I get just over 50 mpg on the highway, which is where I drive it when I do. In town, I average around 48.

Second, the car. It is roomier than a small car, and feels more like a midsize car, like a Camry or Accord. The high ceiling makes it feel roomy. I took my parents, my five year old daughter, and a twelve year old niece from Mississippi to New York in it, and it wasn't bad. For a car that size, the mileage is usually much lower. You can get econo cars with mileage in the mid 30s for a lot less than a Prius, but they are much smaller.

The car drives well. It handles well. It accelerates better than the average economy car, and as well as some much larger cars. It feels quicker than a Mazda 626 I used to drive, and that was a six cylinder. It can cruise easily at highway speeds, and I've driven it above 80 for extended periods in west Texas, with no trouble. It is smooth on the highway, and doesn't drift, and doesn't get blown around like smaller cars.

the car itself feels solid. Parts don't break off, as in some cheaper cars. The seats are comfy. The stereo is garbage, but that's my only complaint.

Maintenance is light. So far, I've had to change the oil every five thousand miles (and the oil doesn't look dirty, so it could probably go longer), change the tires every 25,000 or so (rotate frequently, it does eat tires), and change the brake pads once (they seem to wear better than in other cars, possibly because the Prius is lighter).

Also, since the car is driven by the electric motor at least half the time, and more often at lower speeds, there is less wear on the gas engine. I've spoken to people who used them as courier cars, and put well over 200,000 miles on them in a couple of years, with no problems. There's an urban legend that the batteries fail quickly, or that they haven't been tested properly, but it's not true. Hybrids have been marketed in Asia for years longer than here, with no problems, and there are no reports of significant problems with the batteries here, either. There were some computer problems in the early 04 models, but those have been fixed. And I suspect repairs to the transmission would be costly, since it's very specialized. But I've had no problems with mine, and I've heard of no significant problems in general.

Driving it is fun. You can constantly monitor your mileage, so you tend to try to maximize mileage. It's like driving a video game, to get a high score.

My take on the car is even if it got comparable mileage to other mid-size cars, I'd consider it at its price because of the quality of the car. I wouldn't say I'd buy it, just consider it. But with the mileage bonus--50 mpg to say 28 or maybe 30 in a comparably sized car with as much pickup and speed--it's a great car.

As for getting a deal--I got mine off Ebay with 3000 miles on it, because there was a six month waiting list when I bought it. I got a good price. They can be found, with a little work. (Ebay, Autotrader, etc).
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 11:54 AM
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7. My husband has one, and he loves it!
Great mileage, good handling and all the rest...

Go for it!

Everything jobycom said is true....
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:00 PM
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8. Also consider the Civic Hybrid,
Civic, Corolla, or even the Pontiac Vibe.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 12:58 PM
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9. sorry, not here.
:hi:, Rusty!
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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:33 PM
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10. thanks everybody
The Economist had an article on the Prius recently. Said it was kicking everybody else in the market in the butt. Said the plug in car, where you charge the batteries overnight, will be out in a few year and will have better mileage and fewer emissions (even accounting for the electricity it will need to charge). Said that with their money and technical expertise, Toyota is likely to dominate this market for some time. Only question we have is whether to wait until Sept 08 when the 2009 models come out. This will be the third revision of the vehicle, and is supposed to be much better.
(good to hear from you, Uly. I sent you a private message)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:02 PM
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12. I have an 05 - LOVE MINE!!!
We get 50-60 mpg in ours. They're surprisingly roomy, and kind of designed like the old hatchback civics that you could fit a ton of stuff in when you put the rear seats down.

They usually aren't that pricey, but here's how we got ours (exactly the options we wanted)

Go to a part of your area that is known for Conservativism. I got mine in Folsom, CA. They don't fly off of the lot like they do in say, Berkeley...
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