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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:37 PM
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Why do people feel the need to do this?
I was taking my walk today after dinner (I've been working on loosing weight for the past month or so, and be doing a decent job of it), when suddenly this guy leans way out of his pickup while driving by and yells "Whooooo baby!" He had to have been at least 20 years older than me.


I didn't know if he was making fun or me, or what, but it certainly put me in a bad mood.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:38 PM
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1. Because they're idiots with no class.
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LadyoftheRabbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:46 PM
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2. I absolfrickinlutely hate that
It makes you feel so... weird. :( And that's not fair to anyone. I'm sorry that happened. :hug:
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:15 PM
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16. Thanks
:hug:
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:51 PM
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3. That's happened to me numberous times too
It has nothing to do with you. Some guys are jerks.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:52 PM
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4. "Why do people feel the need to do this?"
That is my number one question, in general. The answer usually resolves to the human ego, and the two polarities.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:56 AM
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32. it seemed like a good idea at the time
My pet peeve is 'friends' or acquaitances who feel the need to honk their horn or slow down or something when they see me on my bike. I try to explain to the idiots that a horn means only one thing 'FU, get the fu$% out of my way!!' And they're like 'but I only tapped on it - twice'. My thinking is that if I flash my middle finger at you twice really fast that does not translate into hello. To me, it's more like 'FU twice!'

I think people just do not know how to relate to each other.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:53 PM
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5. That's what I hated about mowing grass in high school and college
when I lived with my parents. Every 40+ year old would honk and yell.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:03 PM
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6. Please tell me that you gave him the finger?
:shrug: Either that, or I would have run up to his truck and tried to open the door while screaming at people that weren't there...I just love to fuck with people like that, you know, and make them think twice before doing something like that again.

I think people are WAY too opinionated these days. Sometimes, a person just needs to keep their damn mouth shut. Some people have a difficult time doing that, though.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:16 PM
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7. Because we're devolved and quite possibly because
they see it somewhere on telly and think it's acceptable to do.

Dunno.

While I am just as male, I don't pull stunts like that. It's not, amongst other things, polite.
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sanguinivorous Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:24 PM
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8. "Why do people feel the need to do this?"
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 08:24 PM by sanguinivorous
The answer to this and just about any other question you might have starting with "Why did that person...?":

Because people are all ASSHOLES.

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:40 PM
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9. Ding ding ding, we have a winner
People would shout all kinds of crazy shit at me back before I had a car and I had to walk everywhere I went. Lucky for them, there weren't many good throwing sized rocks on the path from my apartment to my job... :evilgrin:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:35 AM
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31. I think it has to do with assholes
not necessarily that they are assholes, but that they are overstating their heterosexuality trying to convince the guy in the passenger seat, or maybe even themselves.

You know, like that song goes, "I'm a hetero/ seuxal man/ I'm a heterosexual man"

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:41 PM
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10. some people are assholes
most seem to be men

:grr:

just have to let it go i guess...

either that or get skittles to kick their ass :P

:hi:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:44 PM
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11. You were dressed provocatively and strolling the street, that's why.


Lionesspriyanka had a thread in a similar vein earlier in the week and if it's an comfort, many of us women don't appreciate it either.

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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:14 PM
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15. Loose jeans and top and messy hair is provocative?
:shrug:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:55 PM
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18. Yeah, remember that
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 10:56 PM by Gormy Cuss
(sorry, my sarcasm tag was eaten in the previous post.I'm having a blip-filled posting day)
:hi:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:11 PM
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45. Heck yeah! Whoo Baby!
Um, sorry. :blush:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:48 PM
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12. When I walked a lot in the city, it used to piss me off.
One evening, after some jerk yelled what he thought was a charming offer, I stopped, spun to face him and in my best pissed off mother voice asked: "Does that crappy behavior actually get you anywhere? Didn't think so."

One man actually pulled his vehicle into a driveway indentation for a car lot, the driveway blocked by dozens of cars, but he effectively blocked me from walking down the sidewalk. He was pissed cuz I ignored his calls of 'how much'. He slammed his door and started toward me yelling: "I SAID 'HOW MUCH?' you bitch!"

I was 40, no makeup on, hair not done, wearing not tight pants and a 'big shirt over a tank top. PISSED ME OFF and I started screaming for the sales guys at the car lot.

After that, I got a gun and some lessons. I refuse to let jerks and misogynists limit my life.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:49 PM
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13. Actually, wasn't that the GOAL or your losing weight???
:shrug:

Take it for what it was- a compliment.
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:14 PM
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14. Actually, I'm losing weight for health reasons,
and because I don't want to feel crappy anymore. Not so that guys twice my age can call at me on the street.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:05 PM
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19. Yeah, I'm sure she's losing weight so she can be harassed
and yelled at.

:wtf:


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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:24 PM
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25. Pardon me?
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 11:24 PM by GirlinContempt
I'm sorry, but has TimeChaser ever indicated this?
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:15 AM
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27. Yep.
I'm a man. That means by default I'm a sexist pig. I admit it wholeheartedly. It's simply the nature of ALL men, whether they admit it or not.

To ANY man, a woman walking down the street is reason enough for celebration. We WILL look.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:47 AM
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33. I don't think all men are sexist pigs.
And I doubt this is true: "To ANY man, a woman walking down the street is reason enough for celebration. We WILL look."

And I don't think looking is sexist. I think they idea that a woman is losing weight so men will hit on her on the street is sexist though, and stupid. Looking is different from catcalling and yelling. Somehow, some men seem able to see an attractive woman without doing that.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:46 AM
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35. bullshit. the op clearly stated that the catcalling/yelling was what was offensive
who said anything about looking?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:27 AM
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43. yes, the goal of every woman's diet is to attract a man, and especially the type who would
catcall from their pick-up truck.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:12 PM
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46. holy shit
:puke:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:52 PM
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51. Goal was not to get harassed but to lose wt.
It is not always about other people. It is not always about hoping someone finds you sexy. Sometimes it is about health, or being able to do what you would like (like go hiking), or being comfortable in an outfit, it is NOT always about other people.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:34 PM
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17. It's a male ego game
Note that

1) It usually happens with men or boys in groups, sometimes a car full of them.

2) It never happens when the woman is in the company of a man.

3) It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like.

I was once standing on a corner in the middle of the afternoon waiting for a bus with two other women. Of the three of us, I was the youngest at 50, and the other two were ten to twenty years older. There was nothing unusual about the way we were dressed.

But along comes a car full of boneheads, and the ones on the passenger side lean out and say things like, "Ooh, baby, baby, give me some of that loving" and "You'd love the taste of my dick."

Since all of us had encountered this kind of idiocy way too many times in our lives, we just ignored them.

The object of the game is to get a reaction from the woman, preferably one of annoyance or embarrassment or fear. They all try, and the one who gets a reaction gains prestige in the eyes of his knuckle-dragging peers.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:08 PM
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20. Since he didn't stop or try to throw you into the pickup, ....
why not take it as a compliment? The exercise is working, Good for you!
:shrug:

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:16 PM
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21. It's not a compliment. It's rude, condescending, and trashy.
"The exercise is working"?

OMG. Yes, she's been validated because a jerk-off yelled at her.



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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:22 AM
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29. because it's not a fucking compliment
just disgusting, rudge, ASSHOLISH.

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:35 AM
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37. Because it's trashy, tasteless, and senselesss?
Not to mention demeaning as hell--Okay, now she's losing weight she's hot again.

What sort of shit mindset is that?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:00 AM
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38. yeah we should really learn to deal with harrassment better,
:eyes:

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:18 PM
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22. Some men think because they are in a pickup and
you are a lone female they can act like jerks.

I remember I guy pulled over when I was walking alone. I thought he wanted directions. He said, "Excuse me can I ask you a question? Have you ever had sex with a black man?"

I ran as fast as I could the other way. Thank God he did not bother me again.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:23 PM
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23. Now THAT is rude, scary and sick. Glad you ran.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:26 PM
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26. Yes! It was when I lived in D.C. away from home.
I wish I could of called the cops on him, but I did not know what to do?? :shrug:
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Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:23 PM
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24. /* leans head out window */
"Would you like me to fix your computer, I know PHP too."

/* Golden Eye 64 is the best drunk game ever. Seriously, it fucking rocks. */
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:21 AM
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28. Because they reasonably believe it will lead to meaningful personal relationships
:rofl:

Just as some people are impolite, aggressive and offensive in other interactions, they can be that way in appreciating someone's appearance. It sucks, and no one deserves to deal with it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:13 PM
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47. Spray smilie
:spray:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:30 AM
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30. We have to
There is that one-in-a-million Penthouse forum thing and there is that driving-down-the-road-man-I-could-tell-that-she-really-WANTED-me thing

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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:41 AM
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34. I'm sorry that happened to you.
I wrote a blog about this very subject after a guy standing across the street yelled out, "Hey, big mama!" at me when I was going to my car. I was so pissed about it, and I wish I would have said something to him, but I didn't have the words at the time.

Keep up the good work and don't let stupid jackasses get to you like that.

:hug:

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:11 AM
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36. i am sure that some one will say i am over reacting but i think all forms of street harrassment
is meant to limit womens public space and make us afraid of being public.

public space has typically been the domain of men, and this sort of aggravation served so make us afraid of the outside

i find public harassment to be proportional to the amount of sexism in the culture (for instance in India, public harassment of women is much worse than in America, and its much worse in America than in the Netherlands)


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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:05 AM
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39. I've never understood what a guy would hope to accomplish by this
Do any of them really think that the woman on the other end is going to be so grateful and thrilled by his attention that she'll immediately fall into his arms or something?

Seriously, what do they see as the end result? :shrug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:06 AM
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40. i think they know full well that they are making you unconfortable
and i think that is meant to be the end result
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:12 AM
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41. I think you're right. And it is a power thing too
like "I can yell sh*t at you and you can't do anything about it."

That's why it seldom happens when a woman has a man with her. What cowards.

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:13 AM
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42. Well, I really don't think that's always the case
A lot of the troglodytes I see indulging in that kind of behavior don't seem to have the cognitive capability to put a thought that complex together. On a broader social level, that may be the case, but individually, I think its more a case of them following a well-worn tradition they have no real understanding of.

And I suppose I've answered my own question - they can't think far enough ahead to anticipate any kind of result.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:09 PM
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44. I would have popped his damn tires.
Then again, it might be my inner Larxene talking. :)

(How are you anyway? I haven't talked to you in forever! :hug:)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:18 PM
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48. Okay, serious question for discussion here.
BTW, he's a jerk, sorry someone of my gender was an ass. :(

Let's say a distinguished gentleman in a Jaguar with a suit, a Brosnan hairdo, and an impeccable accent pulled beside you and said "Pardon me, miss, but I just had to let you know that this gentleman thinks you are beautiful. Have a wonderful day." and drove slowly away, would it be better?

Not saying it would be. I'm just curious what people think.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:54 PM
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52. Even if the asshole in the pickup said it nicely, that would be ok.
If he wasn't an asshole. Asshole behavior is imposing your wishes on someone else, and/or in a rude manner. "wow, you look really nice" is better than "hubby hubby baby, wanna f*".
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:55 PM
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53. I think this woman would find that even more creepy
Either way, I just think its inappropriate and vaguely threatening to holler (or smoothly deliver) pickup lines to complete strangers on the street.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:56 PM
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54. Not as jerky, but still an eyeroller.
Sounds like someone who spends too much time watching romantic comedies. Real life is rarely like that.
If that distinguished gentleman made that remark in the office he'd be setting himself up for a sexual harassment charge if "beautiful" was a subordinate or peer. Saying it to a stranger on the street doesn't have that risk attached.

Never had it happen with a distinguished looking man in an expensive car but I suppose it's possible. Plenty of well heeled frat boy types driving expensive cars engage in the "WOO HOO" yelling as they roar by however.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:29 PM
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57. i think when people are polite, no matter what car they drive its better
because politeness doesnt create a scary or intimidating or embarrassing situation
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:20 PM
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49. Taking a walk without a male chaperone? You HO.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:50 PM
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50. You were there, parts of him was there.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:57 PM
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55. I choose to take that stuff as a compliment.
They might not mean it that way, which makes it all the more fun for me to smile and yell, "Thanks, baby!"
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:26 PM
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56. In rural areas, that sort of thing is a redneck mating call.
And it seems to work for most of them. Women seem to love it down here. I don't, but still, many of the straight women in the area where I live think it's just the sweetest lil thing, y'all. :evilgrin:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:31 PM
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58. dude, i'm so sorry
and despite some assholes in this thread, NO WOMAN asks for this or makes this her goal to get catcalls.

:hug: to you.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:15 PM
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59. Must be a Republican.
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