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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:31 AM
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What are some of the strangest/weirdest books you read?
For me it is "The Hard To Catch Mercy" by William Baldwin.

http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Catch-Mercy-William-Baldwin/dp/1596290226/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1403668-7528640?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193214407&sr=8-1


I read through it but it took me some time and till the end I didn't understand what he was talking about.

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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:33 AM
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1. "House Of Leaves" (the book I always recommend to everyone) is pretty weird.
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 03:33 AM by primate1
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:35 AM
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2. you beat me to it
i haven't read much of it yet, but it is a damn strange book
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:46 AM
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9. I absolutely love it.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:52 AM
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40. Add me to the list of endorsements for House of Leaves.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:37 AM
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4. Just looked it up on Amazon
not sure I will read it. I am not into scary books or movies.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:36 AM
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3. Everything I've read by Kurt Vonnegut
His is not an easy style to follow. But it's well worth the effort.

I think I read "Slaughterhouse Five" three times before I really "got" it, and him.

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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:40 AM
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7. Never read anything by him
there are way too many books out there to ever be able to read them all.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:43 AM
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Yeah, and that amazes me
All those millions and millions of books — more creativity than my brain can comprehend. :crazy:

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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:42 AM
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60. I absolutely love everything he wrote. It does, however, take the prize for weird
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:37 AM
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5. The Bible
It has talking snakes and bushes.
:D Good morning MissH
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:39 AM
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6. One day I will read the Bible
but only because of the cultural aspect, not the religous aspect.

:hi: GoP
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:43 AM
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8. It's a boring read
this guy begat that guy yada yada yada.
You think they would have hired better writers :silly:
:hi:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:00 AM
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42. Too much sex and murder for me.
I couldn't finish it.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:59 AM
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50. incest too
:yoiks:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:10 AM
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53. OT, I now have a killer earworm from your sigline.
Strangers in the night, exchanging glances...
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:16 AM
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55. I used to always sing
Strangers in the night they're testing rubbers this ones too tight lets try another. :silly:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:23 PM
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68. Sinatra with dyslexia ... biedoo biedoo bie
doo biedoo biedoo biedoo
biedoo biedoo bie
doe biedoo biedoo biedoo
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:41 AM
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59. I've read it cover to cover....
Lots of sex and violence. If only there was stuff blowing up here and there, and maybe a car chase scene, it would make a great movie!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 03:54 AM
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10. Dhalgren by Samuel R. Delany
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 03:55 AM by LeftCoast
I got to the end of that book and really didn't have much of a clue as to what I'd just read. :)

Edited to add a Wiki link for the curious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhalgren
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:01 AM
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11. That sounds interesting
Maybe there is an idea for the next read for me. Right now I am reading something boring like the biography of Friedrich von Schiller.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:29 AM
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21. Don't read the wiki then
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 04:29 AM by LeftCoast
It gives a fairly detailed synopsis.

If you can handle experimental types of prose, you should like the book.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:43 AM
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29. Haven't read it
I will definitely put it on my list to read. Have enough of mystery novels at the moment.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:13 AM
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13. I love that book!
I've read it about ten times and just bought a second copy to replace the original one that's worn out. Such beautiful, lyrical writing. It's like reading the strangest of dreams.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:32 AM
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23. I found it a bit frustrating I think
I agree though, there are some images that just stick with you.

I kept searching for an underlying meaning to the book and never could find it. It was interesting though. I don't regret reading it at all.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:03 AM
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43. "Dhalgren" is a very strange book.
It's unlike anything I've ever read. Very weird.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:50 AM
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47. anything by Samuel R. - really. . .
The best of his stuff was Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand, I think.

He is definitely out there.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:28 PM
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72. Yep, weirdest book ever
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:09 AM
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12. "Geek Love"
Geek Love is a novel by Katherine Dunn and first published in 1989. It was first published in parts in Mississippi Mud Book of Days and Looking Glass Bookstore Review in 1983 and 1988. The first complete text was published hardcover by Alfred A. Knopf, a division of Random House, in 1989.

The novel is the story of a traveling circus run by Aloysius "Al" Binewski and his wife, "Crystal" Lil. When Al's circus begins to fail, the couple devise an idea to breed their own freak show, using various drugs and radioactive material to alter the genes of their children. Who emerges are Arturo ("Arty"), a boy with flippers for hands and feet; Electra ("Elly") and Iphigenia ("Iphy") the Siamese Twins; Olympia ("Oly") the hunchback albino dwarf; and Fortunato ("Chick"), the normal looking telekinetic baby of the family — as well as a number of still-borns kept preserved in jars in a special wing of the freak show. The story is told by Oly in the form of a novel written for her daughter Miranda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek_Love
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:14 AM
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14. OK, that really sounds strange
makes you think about the author :crazy:
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:17 AM
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15. Bizarre doesn't begin to cover it.
:hi:
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:19 AM
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16. What made you read it?
:hi:
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:27 AM
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19. It was a gift from a childhood friend
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 04:30 AM by MaggieSwanson
Who said, "This is the strangest book I have ever read, see if you agree." She was spot on.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:40 PM
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75. Oh, yes, it's very strange. Read it a few years ago.
I still think about it from time to time.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:19 AM
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17. Gravity's Rainbow -Thomas Pynchon.
The Naked Lunch - William Burroughs
The Soft Machine - William Burroughs (ah, feck it, anything by Burroughs is strange)
Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World - Haruki Murakami
The Wind Up Bird Chronicle - Haruki Murakami
You Bright and Risen Angels - William Vollman
Light - M. John Harrison
Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
Accelerando - Charles Stross
The Arabesque Trilogy - Jon Courtney Grimwood
Finnegan's Wake - James Joyce
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:21 AM
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18. I read another book by Haruki Murakami
he really writes weird fiction.

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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:27 AM
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20. I love his writing. I just finished Kafka on the Shore and can't wait...
...for his next book. He has such a unique voice.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:29 AM
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22. I read the Wind Up Bird Chronicle
and have kafka on the Shore at home. Haven't read it yet though. Even though I find his writing strange it is fascinating at the same time
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:33 AM
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24. Do you read it in German translation?
I only ask because Murakami's English translations are excellent. Murakami speaks perfect English, so he works with his translator to ensure that the spirit of the novels are preserved.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:35 AM
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25. Wind Up Bird Chronicle I read in German
Kafka on the Shore I have in English. Maybe that is the reason I haven't read it yet. Not the English itself but the strangeness in English.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:37 AM
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27. Yes, I can imagine that would be a problem.
I'm trying to learn Japanese at the moment, but I can't imagine trying to tackle something like Murakami for a few years yet. Weirdness in English is weird. Weirdness in Japanese would be weird squared.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:40 AM
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28. I love reading books in English
but there are some that make it hard even for me.

You are learning Japanese? Cool. That is a language I would love to learn as well. And if it is only just for fun.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:48 AM
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30. So far, I've learned just enough of the alphabet and basic vocabulary...
...to be able to recognize a public lavatory six times out of ten. I can also order from a menu, and even occasionally receive something that looks like it may come from the same general region of the planet as the thing I thought I ordered. Beyond that, I have a long way to go.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:52 AM
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31. Since when are you learning Japanese
sounds like you accomplished some already. Is Japanese the same as Chinese regarding the sound of words meaning different stuff?
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:57 AM
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32. Fortunately not. Japanese is pretty rigidly phonetic.
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 04:59 AM by Kutjara
There's just one way to pronounce each sound, and most words are unaccented, so you stress each syllable equally.

I started to learn Mandarin, but when I got to the part about each syllable having four possible tones, each of which gives it a completely different meaning, I just burst into tears and gave up. Learning 6,000 Han characters is bad enough. Having to know the four different meanings of each one was more than I could take. Of course, Cantonese has six tones for each syllable, so Mandarin is simple by comparison.

My favorite Mandarin translations are:

"Fu fu fu fu fu" - we are fortunate to be having dinner at the Fu's.

"Ma ma ma ma ma ma" - My mother took the horse to the market to sell.


By comparison, Japanese is child's play.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:02 AM
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33. OMG
how do they SPEAK that language without messing up all the time? I mean the Mandarin speaking people. And to think Russian is difficult ....
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:05 AM
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34. What's even worse...
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 05:09 AM by Kutjara
...is that one of the four meanings always seems to be either offensive or insulting. So you try to say "Hello, Mr. Chen. Good to see you. How are your wife and children today?" and end up saying "Yo, Ratface. Your ass stinks. Is your wife still pimping your kids?" It's a minefield.

Apparently, it takes Chinese children a lot longer to become literate, because there is simply so much more to learn. Rural kids get the worst deal, because they haven't really learned enough of the written language by the time they leave school.
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skyblue Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:53 AM
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63. Haven't read The Wind Up Bird, but enjoyed The Elephant Vanishes by Murakami.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:35 AM
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26. The books by Carlos Castaneda
These books were really wild, but very very cool.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:08 AM
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35. "The Case of the Toxic Spell Dump"
by Harry Turtledove

It's very funny, but you'll read it a dozen times and STILL not pick up all of the subtleties and implications and parallels!

It's a good read, though. It's written in first-person, which is kind of rare.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 06:46 AM
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36. Finnegans Wake
James Joyce's last work--700 pages of jabberwocky.

A short sample:

Sir Tristram, violer d'amores, fr'over the short sea, had passen-core rearrived from North Armorica on this side the scraggy isthmus of Europe Minor to wielderfight his penisolate war: nor had topsawyer's rocks by the stream Oconee exaggerated themselse to Laurens County's gorgios while they went doublin their mumper all the time: nor avoice from afire bellowsed mishe mishe to tauftauf thuartpeatrick: not yet, though venissoon after, had a kidscad buttended a bland old isaac: not yet, though all's fair in vanessy, were sosie sesthers wroth with twone nathandjoe. Rot a peck of pa's malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 06:57 AM
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37. Hell no
that isn't readable at all!!! How did you do it????
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:28 PM
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73. Easy to proof read ... just say "Ah, f*ck it, who'll know?" nt
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:20 AM
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38. Anything by James Joyce eom
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:32 AM
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39. the necronomicon
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:43 AM
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61. It makes more sense if you read it aloud
FYI.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:55 AM
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64. um, what do you think i chant everyday?
:eyes:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:59 AM
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41. Strangest, weirdest and also one of the best: "Word Virus: The William S. Burroughs Reader"
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:16 AM
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44. Can't remember the name of it.
I read it a few years ago ... it was about the virgin birth of Satan's child. Very strange and I don't remember much about it.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:20 AM
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45. Sounds like a book NOT to read
:hi:
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:41 AM
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46. Yeah.
I had to be careful about reading it at bedtime. :scared:


:hi: :hug:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:14 AM
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66. That was The Great Gatsby
Duh!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:52 AM
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48. Naked Lunch
retire the trophy
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 08:52 AM
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49. Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds
Why do otherwise intelligent individuals form seething masses of idiocy when they engage in collective action? Why do financially sensible people jump lemming-like into hare-brained speculative frenzies--only to jump broker-like out of windows when their fantasies dissolve? We may think that the Great Crash of 1929, junk bonds of the '80s, and over-valued high-tech stocks of the '90s are peculiarly 20th century aberrations, but Mackay's classic--first published in 1841--shows that the madness and confusion of crowds knows no limits, and has no temporal bounds. These are extraordinarily illuminating,and, unfortunately, entertaining tales of chicanery, greed and naivete. Essential reading for any student of human nature or the transmission of ideas.

In fact, cases such as Tulipomania in 1624--when Tulip bulbs traded at a higher price than gold--suggest the existence of what I would dub "Mackay's Law of Mass Action:" when it comes to the effect of social behavior on the intelligence of individuals, 1+1 is often less than 2, and sometimes considerably less than 0.

http://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madness-Crowds/dp/051788433X
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:03 AM
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51. A lot of Lovecraft qualifies...
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 09:04 AM by Orsino
...there's also Tom Robbins' Jitterbug Perfume and Max Barry's Jennifer Government. And maybe anything by Tim Powers.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:10 AM
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52. "The Great Wheadle Tragedy" by Alexander Theroux
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:14 AM
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54. The Woman in the Dunes by Kobo Abe...it's stayed with me for years...
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skyblue Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:51 AM
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62. Tedious but cool. Also read Kangaroo Notebook less tedious but still very trippy.
I quit reading, b/c of other hobbies, but definately like Kobo Abe. Haven't seen "The Woman in the Dunes" movie but planning to.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:25 AM
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56. "Tailchaser's Song"-Tad Williams
Not a huge fan of his other books, but this one had me hooked from chapter 1.

Summary
"Fritti Tailchaser, a young ginger tom cat sets out to stray from his home and clan, the Meeting Wall Clan, in search of his catfriend Hushpad after strange disappearances of the Folk have been reported. He and the kitten Pouncequick set out on a long journey to visit the Court of Harar with the intention of finding out the mystery of the disappearances--a journey that will take them to cat Hell and beyond."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailchaser's_Song

It's actually kind of creepy.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:35 AM
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57. Swan Song, Boys Life , going South
all by Robert McCammon....
really anything by him
great reads though...
but weird


http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Robert+R+McCammon&ots=IdDyM0m37S&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=author-navigational

a link to descriptions of his books


lost
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 09:39 AM
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58. A couple...
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 09:43 AM by av8rdave
Harouin and The Sea of Stories by Salmon Rushdie. Fun, whimsical, but weird.

Where is Joe Merchant? (Jimmy Buffett). So strange that I kept vowing to put it down, but before I knew it I finished it and it wound up being fun.

Oh yeah, The Anatomy Lesson by Phillip Roth. Very strange (but lots of sex, so he should get some credit).
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:00 AM
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65. Jack Womack's books where he makes up his own languages
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:19 PM
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67. Phillip K. Dick's "Valis" ... and I haven't read the two 'sequels' yet
It's semi(?)autobiographical, with the author sometimes speaking in his own voice, sometimes describing the actions of "Horselover Fat", a character who is initially introduced as a stand-in for the author, but who is slowly revealed as being a separate personality of sorts, albeit living in the same head. Both characters converse with others, sometimes without the other's knowledge, and apparently even converse with each other over the phone. Every alternative religion you can imagine gets jumbled together as t/he/y trie/s to rationalize his 1974 encounter with a supernatural being. There are three-eyed aliens from the future, ancient satellites controlling peoples' brains from space, living plasmatic entities somehow embodied in the Gnostic texts of Nag Hammadi, a show business couple who are, apparently, gods, and well, other "unusual things".

Most of Dick's stuff is pretty weird in some entertaining way, but VALIS is off the charts.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:26 PM
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70. VALIS is one of my all-time top 5 favorite books
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 01:28 PM by MrCoffee
FYI: There are 4 books in the VALIS series; The Divine Invasion, The Transmigration of Timothy Archer, and Radio Free Albemuth.

RFA was published posthumously using PKD's first round of edits

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Albemuth
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:36 PM
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74. Didn't know RFA was considered part of the series. I screwed up and read it first.
It's much, much more coherent and sensible than VALIS.

OMG -- wiki says there's a film version of VALIS in production?? I don't see how it can be done.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:42 PM
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76. a film version of VALIS?!?! be still my heart! oh...wait
that is from Feb. 2004. :cry:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:25 PM
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69. .
Edited on Wed Oct-24-07 01:27 PM by jgraz
wrong spot
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:27 PM
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71. just about anything by john irving nt
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:45 PM
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77. "The Obscene Bird of Night", by JOse donoso
...Humberto Penaloza, who as a child & adolescent was always told by his father that he must become something, it doesn't matter what, as long as Humberto doesn't go through the same social obscurity that he endures. Later on, he becomes the assistant to Jeronimo, a wealthy politician who is trying to lengthen the family tree. His wife, Ines de Azcoitia is unable to bear him children. Then through either an act of black magic, or Humberto's intimacy Jeronimo is given his child. The child, simply called Boy, is horribly deformed. Jeronimo decides to build the child it's own world, entirely secluded from anything outside of it and surrounded by other people with monstrosities.

When that song "Man in the Box", by Nine Inch Nails came out I immediatly thought of this book. So strange, it gave me weird dreams.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 01:47 PM
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78. Rudy Rucker's "Ware" series ... Hardware, Software, Wetware, Realware
snippets from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ware_Tetralogy

"2031: Manchile, the First Robot-Built Human, Is Planted in the Womb of Della Taze by Ken Doll, Part of Whose Right Brain Is a Robot Rat."

Set in 2030-2031, ten years after the events of Software, Wetware focuses on the attempt of an Edgar Allan Poe-obsessed bopper named Berenice to populate Earth with a robot/human hybrid called a meatbop. Toward this end, she implants an embryo in a human woman living on the Moon (Della Taze, Cobb Anderson's niece) and then frames her for murder to force her to return to Earth. After only a few days, she gives birth to a boy named Manchile, who has been genetically programmed to carry bopper software in his brain (and in his sperm), and to grow to maturity in a matter of weeks.

Berenice's plan is for Manchile to announce the formation of a new religion unifying boppers and humans, and then arrange to have himself assassinated. (Rucker makes several allusions to the Christ story; Taze's abbreviated pregnancy is discovered on Christmas Eve, for instance.) Before the assassination, Manchile impregnates several women, the idea being that his similarly accelerated offspring will create a race of meatbops at an exponential rate.

The plot goes disastrously awry, and a human corporation called ISDN retaliates against the boppers by infecting them with a genetically modified organism called chipmold. The artificial disease succeeds in killing off the boppers, but when it infects the boppers' outer coating, a kind of smart plastic known as flickercladding, it creates a new race of intelligent symbiotes known as moldies — thus fulfilling Berenice's dream of an organic/synthetic hybrid.


The overall feel of Realware lacks continuity with the first three novels. This disjounted style can be attributed to the fact that Rucker quit drinking and doing drugs between the third and fourth novel. Since drug use is such a big part of the ware tetralogy, the change in his attitude towards drugs is significant.

Speaking of drugs ... there's also Rucker's "White Light".
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 02:04 PM
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79. Not books, but 2 short stories that are weird;
The Monkey's Paw: http://gaslight.mtroyal.ab.ca/mnkyspaw.htm

The Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge: http://fiction.eserver.org/short/occurrence_at_owl_creek.html I think this story was 100 years ahead of its time.
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