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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:07 PM
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My friend visited. Got drunk. Passed out. My puppy chewed her new glasses.
I offered to pay and she took me up on it. $600.

Man. Right before the holidays, too. Stoopid puppy.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:08 PM
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1. $600 for her glasses??!! Mine before insurance were only about $300
and I have those frameless frames.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:09 PM
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2. Bi-focals, designer rims and built-in sunglasses. I feel sick.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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6. did this person also get drunk
I mean shouldn't they have some responsibilty for such expensive glasses - like a glass case? Or did the puppy just pull them off his/her face? Even for my glasses, which were pricey cept I have insurance, I still make sure I put them somewhere safe or just not wear them if I suspect I might be drinking heavily.

I think a contribution towards the glasses was fine but why should you be responsible for his/her inability to put the glasses somewhere safe. It's a puppy and everyone knows puppies chew things.

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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:18 PM
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10. She passed out on the couch. Didn't recall where she put the glasses. Puppy got them.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:12 PM
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3. Wouldn't yours or hers rental/homeowners insurance cover?
And if she has new glasses, depending on where she got them, she might get free replacement - or maybe just a new frame if the lenses are still intact.

I applaud for having the integrity to be willing to cover the cost of something your pet destroyed - not many pet owners, sadly, seem to be honest as you - but I think you might have some options to look at before you cough up the $600.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:14 PM
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4. Why is that your fault?
She's a social guest. Technically, the only duty you owe her is to warn of known and hidden dangers. She's the one that got hammered and passed out. That is unless you live in the Kingdom of California which has weird rules for everything.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:18 PM
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9. In California, out-of-staters are responsible for all remuneration.
You should shortly be receiving your bill for the Malibu fires.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:06 PM
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25. Don't forget the Santiago Canyon Fire, and the Witch Fire
I personally stand to make a hauling from the Santiago Canyon Fire.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:14 PM
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5. They were her glasses. She was drunk.
It's not like she handed them to you and then you deliberately destroyed them.

She failed to take proper care of one of her possessions while in your home. She shares responsibility for the damage.

Give her $300 and call it square.


Or did you give them to the puppy while she was horking her schnapps in the bathroom?
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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7. Heh. No..it was her VILE homemade wine that she insists is drinkable.
She is constantly trying to play the wine-snob with me by forcing that bucket made swill on me.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:21 PM
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12. So you didn't even supply the hooch.
This is her fault not yours.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:21 PM
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13. Likes drinking buckets of wine and passing out? Send her to my place!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:25 PM
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19. She's definitely looking. Do you fancy ex Air Force Majors with large tattoos of wolves on their
backs?

I'm talking..this tattoo covers half of her back. Birch trees, moonlight, howling wolves. The whole 9.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:27 PM
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21. I guess of I'm going to be looking at her back a lot, I could enjoy the scenery
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:52 PM
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53. my ex gf's aunt had a tattoo of her dead chihuaha on the small of her back
it was pleasant enough. helped to pass the time once or twice.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:17 PM
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8. Perhaps the puppy jumped on top of her and took the glasses off of her
:eyes:

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:22 PM
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14. Yeah, maybe the dog is near-sighted. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:23 PM
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15. or maybe she took the glasses off in order to pretend the puppy was someone else
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:00 PM
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24. Puppy was tricked by the wolf tattoo.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:20 PM
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11. Is the integrity of your word worth $600?
It's not a matter of paying for glasses at this point, it's a matter of paying to keep your honor.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:23 PM
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16. Yep. It's not a question. I will pay. I just feel sick. Right before the holidays.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:25 PM
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17. Maybe you could make a batch of home-made Christmas wine and give it as a gift to save money
Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 03:25 PM by JVS
;-)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:29 PM
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22. For the record, I completely disagree. n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:31 PM
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23. WAIT A MINUTE
if you haven't paid then STOP.

Unless you happen to be wealthy enough to have $600 lying around then you need to mention to her that she brought the bad wine and passed out. She was the one irresponsible for her glasses.

I think even $300 is a stretch but that's the most I would offer. She needs to take responsiblity too
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:27 PM
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20. It's a matter of not being made a fool.
Yeah, hang-on, I'm on the telephone with the bank. I want to see if they will accept integrity and honor as a mortgage payment.

He agreed to pay in a moment of weakness out of a sense of common, but misplaced, liberal guilt. She fully took advantage of it. Now he knows better.

When it's the principle and not the money that matters, it is because the money matters. I doubt either of them can easily afford $600.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:02 PM
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40. And in the future the OP knows not to offer the money so easily, but that ship has sailed
The words were said, not to follow through is going back on those words.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:04 PM
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41. I've thought that very same thing all day. Engage brain before operating mouth.
But that is the way I was raised.

Being a host meant making sure that EVERYTHING was fine and dandy for your guest.

Lesson learned.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:16 PM
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47. It has sailed? Who has the money right now?
Sorry, but this feudal personal honor crap doesn't change anything. Powerful people came up with that centuries ago to justify peonage and debt imprisonment. There is nothing morally absolute about words. They are not magic. They do not make wrong right. Ones moral compass should be based on right and wrong and not the idea that a hasty word immutably makes the unjust right for all time. What a load of crap. Put it another way, if the drunken visitor is really his friend, would she really want to be paid out of some notion of honor while knowing that the OP resents it because it isn't right? He should just tell her how he feels about it and go from there.

Here's an anecdote:
A wife wakes up at night to find her husband pacing. After an inquiry he says that he owes the neighbor $5000 and he cannot pay it back. The wife then telepones the neighbor an tells him. "There, now he can pace all night and you can sleep."
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 06:06 PM
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49. If you say you'll pay, you pay. BASTA!
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:25 PM
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18. Good thing she didnt get drunk and pregnant from a neighbor
That would have been a lifetime of you paying out.

She should take a little responsibility for not keeping up with her stuff and go dutch at minimum.

:shrug:
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:08 PM
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26. Puppies chew stuff. Your friend knew you had a puppy.
:shrug: Not sure how that's your responsibility, but you were generous to offer to pay. :)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:34 PM
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27. Sorry, but she was the one who put her glasses in the puppy's reach. And if she was a decent friend
own up to that instead of bilking you for $600.

I say you shouldn't pay her until after the holidays. :(
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:59 PM
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55. I agree with you. My puppy has chewed two pairs of my glasses
but it was MY fault both times for laying them down where she could get at them.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:08 PM
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28. She was the one that passed out drunk and she wants you to pay for them?
what ever happens when drunk is the drunks responsibility. It's the unwritten code of law of the bottle.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:45 PM
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29. Mmm, it is your dog.
So I'm going to disagree with most of the thread and agree with you that you should pay. And that you're being an honorable person and doing the right thing.

That said, why not ask her if you can do half now and half later or something? Like you said, it IS right before the holidays.

Also, looking into your homeowner's / renter's insurance is not a bad idea. You may be able to claim for acts of Dog. :rofl: :rofl: (I crack me up sometimes, I'm so funny.)
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:58 PM
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30. maybe the dog thought the glasses were ugly
and was only trying to help.

But I agree, you are doing the proper thing

Question-what the hell are the glasses made out of Milk bone???

I have worn glasses for over 50 years and my 3 boys have all worn glasses.
They are pretty sturdy. Can see maybe frames getting messed up a bit but the lenes?????

I would take them back to the eye glass joint and have a shit fit.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:46 PM
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38. "acts of Dog" !!1!1 BWAH!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:59 PM
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39. It was a funny line!
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 05:59 PM
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31. At least it didn't eat half her face off, necessitating a face transplant. n/t
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:04 PM
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32. I'm very sorry.
If that happened at my home I would have offered to pay half. After all, your friend is responsible for getting drunk, and knew in advance that there was a puppy in the house. She should have taken some precaution with her glasses. :(

But I totally understand why you're eating the whole cost, and once you've offered you certainly can't back out of it. And that is a lot of money to have to shell out, and it will put a damper on the holidays. :(

:hug:
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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 06:09 PM
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33. Tell her your puppy got sick from eating her glasses
The vet bill came to $600.00, so now you're even.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:42 PM
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37. Oh man! I LOVE this answer!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 07:22 PM
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34. You need to learn the phrase "comparative negligence".
She needs to learn the phrase "assumption of risk".

I think you are partly to blame, maybe even mostly. I don't think you are on the hook for the whole $600. I'd have offered to split the cost with her, maybe gone up to $400.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:18 PM
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35. First thought: How close a friend?
You want to keep this relationship? Really? Why?

Second thought: Don't pay. If she chooses to try to force the issue, that's on her, I guess, but short of retaining an attorney whose fees would far, far outweigh the cost of replacing the glasses, I don't think she can force you to pay for her irresponsibility. It's not your fault she got so drunk she lost control of her faculties and it's not your fault your dog ate her property.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:22 PM
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36. I wouldn't call her a friend....
I'd say she took advantage of you.
Duckie
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:07 PM
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42. Stoopid drunk girl
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:24 PM
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43. Your word. Have to follow through.
BUT I would sure be thinking about maintaining the friendship. She is taking advantage.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 06:11 PM
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50. exactly
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:44 PM
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44. Can you get her frames and options at Costco and just pay them that way?
Would probably save you a boatload. My new glasses there were $160 versus $300 at Four Eyes.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:00 PM
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45. It's very kind of you to offer to replace them.
Your friend in turn should offer to mitigate the cost since a)she may be able to get replacement frames only, b) she's the one who didn't store them in a safe place knowing that there was a puppy in the house. If she doesn't offer to pay half, she's either broke or selfish but she has a good friend.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 11:08 PM
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46. What's the puppy's version of this story?
Maybe the puppy says She was drunk and chewing on her glasses and offered me a bite
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:23 AM
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48. You funny person you!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 06:15 PM
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51. That would make a very funny card.
The OP could send the check inside a card containing that caption.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:41 PM
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52. offer 1/2 the cost and promise in order to make up for the difference
you will let your friend take the dog for walks 1/2 the time and feed the animal 1/2 the time...seems fair to me!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:55 PM
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54. if you said you were gonna do it, then you have to do it
otherwise . . .
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:02 PM
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56. My parents' dogs' chewed up my Uncle's Dentures
believe it or not, they made a claim on their home owners and they PAID!!!!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:03 PM
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57. Stoopid friend. Stoopid you, for covering her stoopidness.
Redstone
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