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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:26 PM
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Oh noes! Only one more "Torchwood" left!
:cry:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:29 PM
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1. No other Torchwood fans at DU?!
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:33 PM
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2. I really like Torchwood.
It's a bit hit (They keep killing Suzie) or miss (Cyberwoman), but it's fun to watch. I watch the UK version, because BBC America cuts the show.

The new series will air in the UK and the US, at the end of January.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:40 PM
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3. I adore Torchwood
*spoiler* I was so mad at Jack last night when he didn't kiss the real "Jack."

:grr: :D
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:46 PM
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5. Yeah he did lol.
Did'nt he ? I am sure he did and it was beautiful.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:50 PM
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6. Yes, he did and my hubby couldn't watch because he was too
uncomfortable with it. I thought it was all right though. I've always said it's souls that fall in love and plumbing doesn't matter.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:59 PM
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9. Yep. Agree totally
"I've always said it's souls that fall in love and plumbing doesn't matter."

That's true. I think it sadly takes a rare mind and soul to see that though. :hug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:05 PM
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12. *hugs* Well, it's a spiritual/philosophical thing. I figure God can't really
be a big angry man sitting on a throne "up there" somewhere. And if God is the creator of male and female "he" must have femaleness to him as well. Or maybe no gender at all.

Either way I decided that it's bodies that have the gender and not the souls, and from there it was much easier to understand about people falling in love regardless of plumbing. :)
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:01 PM
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11. Yes ! That's my belief too :)
Would you mind if I used that as my new signature ?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:06 PM
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13. Oh yes, please do! :^D Don't credit me though, I am sure I am not the first to come up with that
that line of thought. :^)
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:45 PM
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4. I am watching the marathon right now on BBC America.
I really like this show. It really growed on me.Its cheeky and freaky at the same time - I am just being honest and its cool to see a science fiction show with a bisexual lead character.I just love it.Not because of the openess to sexuality but because I really want to know where Captain Jack came from.We know now where he got his name and that episode really made me think. I can't wait to see what the old man is about.I say he is a weevil lol.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:52 PM
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7. Spoilerish: The old man had weird eyes sometimes. Like they are all pupil or something.
I still haven't figured out if he wanted the rift open or not. He did that thing to Tosh's paper, but he didn't prevent Owen from grabbing that other thing.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:57 PM
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8. Yeah, I saw that!
Sorta off topic: Is Jack a time lord like Dr Who?

Dr Who is always presumed to be "the last of his kind," but..... Jack always says he's a man out of his time. :shrug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:00 PM
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10. Spoilerish again: Well he indicated last night that
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 02:01 PM by GreenPartyVoter
he got caught doing something and roped into his current job. I am pretty sure he was sent back from the future by somebody. Maybe the last of the humans?

And Owen drives me crazy. I didn't much like him before and now I really don't like him after what he did with the rift machine. Yay to Ianto for popping him.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:11 PM
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14. I think "Captain Jack " has a lot to answer for.
Meaning that those that he has con-ned through his "lives" may seek revenge and he will show more of a sorrow side for what he did. I am taking this from Wikipedia btw. He is from the 51st Century (wow) and I hope that they show more of what the world ummm universal galactic society is like. I have never been a fan of science fiction , I used to despise it but something has me hooked on Doctor Who and Torchwood to the point that I don't leave the house when it comes on television.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:20 PM
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18. These are more human stories
that rely on story telling and the relationships between the characters. The SFX are secondary to the story.

Compare that to say Michael Bay's "The Island." It could be an interesting update to Aldus Huxley's Brave New World about a society of genetically engineered people. But instead, in the middle of the movie they take HUGE CAR CHASE CRASH break for no other reason than to satisfy the SFX fans. Did absolutely nothing to advance the story along or highlight the characters. I only watched it because my man Sean Bean was his usual devastatingly handsome bad boy self.

I tend to like story and character driven SCi Fi, too, and it's one reason I often prefer British TV and movies to American ones.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:14 PM
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15. That tag line
"The 21st Century is when everything changes. And you've got to be ready."

It'll be interesting to see how they spin that out. :-)

Yes, I get the idea he's from the future. I wonder if Ian is too? Ian seems to have a thing for Jack.


Can't wait for the next series. :-)


Owen: I was neutral towards him at first because I too am often percieved as "stand offish" But now, he's going beyond the scope of the group.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:15 PM
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16. didn't they explain some of that in Dr. Who?
I love the series. It's kind of dark, but I love Capt. Jack (he's incredibly sexy), despite how cynical as he is.....


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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:15 PM
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24. Jack is very different on Doctor Who.
On Torchwood, he's tormented by his 'can't die' emo. On Doctor Who, he's flirty and fun.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:20 PM
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17. Nerd alert!
Jack isn't a time lord like the Doctor. Jack is a human time agent from the 51st century, which is apparently when the human race expands across the universe and breeds with everything.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:30 PM
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19. Yup.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:31 PM
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20. 51st Century?
I missed that part . Is that when he met the Doctor and Rose during the London Blitz?
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:12 PM
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22. Yep.
Jack met the Doctor and Rose in the 1940s, during the creepy gas mask zombie episodes. I think Jack says he's from the 51st century then. I think the Doctor mentions in another episode that the 51st century is when humans explore the universe and mix with alien species. Thus, all the cat people and such.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:23 PM
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25. Are you my mummy?
LOL!

God, that was hideous. :rofl:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:27 PM
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26. It scared the bejeebus out of me.
As if children weren't scary enough . . . :)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:53 PM
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21. isn't it scary when you know these things?
that's what I was just thinking. :rofl:

I actually spend more time than I should thinking about episodes of Dr. Who, Star Trek, and Babylon 5.

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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 03:12 PM
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23. It's almost embarassing.
I can't remember where I put my keys, but by golly I remember random details from Doctor Who!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:24 PM
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27. The only thing I can recall from doctor Who is
a realllly long scarf. :shrug:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:35 PM
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28. That Doctor was way before my time.
I don't think I was alive, when they had the really long scarf.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:38 PM
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29. PBS - That's when PBS showed Dr Who
in the early - mid 70s :D

I remember because I watched them. :-)

Why yes, I am only slightly younger than dirt.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:56 PM
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30. I didn't live in the U.S. until Doctor Who was cancelled.
So aside from a few serials on netflix, I really only know the new series. This --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn_NDKNlUa8&feature=related makes me want to watch more old school serials though.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:13 PM
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31. Oh, we must be about a grain of sand apart in age. LOL
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 08:26 PM
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37. ah, but I think knowing about Dr. Who enhances a person's qualities!
:hi:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:35 PM
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38. I agree.
Hatred for Doctor Who is a dealbreaker for me. :P
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 11:09 PM
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39. and a way to tell if you have similar Brit-oriented senses of humor!
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 03:41 PM
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42. more nerd alert
didn't he pose as a time agent but was really a con man? It was explained in the London Blitz episodes of Dr Who - but I can't remember the fine details. Was he actually a time agent/rogue time agent or was he only a con man?
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:26 PM
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50. He was a time agent who went "freelance" after he found out
the agency had wiped two years of his memories. Then he took off and became a con man, until he met up with the Doctor & Rose.
*has no life* lol!
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:34 PM
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57. that's right
it's been awhile since I saw that episode, so I couldn't remember the fine details. (which of course means it's time to watch it again!) *really has no life* :silly:
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 05:16 PM
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32. Yeah, but it's a good one!
Trust me.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:48 PM
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34. :^O Have you seen it already?!
:wow:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:51 PM
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35. It aired on BBC a long time ago.
Thus, Torchwood episodes are plentiful on the internet. :)

The last episode seemed really random to me. Ianto and Gwen have understandable motivations, but Tosh and Owen's reasons for the thing that they all do seemed tacked on. :shrug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:08 PM
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36. Well, I will fight the temptation to watch it online. I wanna see it on TV
:D
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 04:11 PM
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46. I will watch it online ...
and I will watch it again on TV.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:39 PM
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48. BBC America cuts all the naked and swears from the BBC broadcast.
You could watch online or wait for the DVD in January.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:13 AM
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52. HDNet didn't... and it was in glorious HiDef :) n/m
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:46 PM
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55. And BBCamerica isn't even consistent....
They wouldn't let us hear Gwen say "hard-on" after her first encounter with Owen.

But Gordon Ramsey has used the word several times--on Sunday morning. Of couse, they have to bleep out quite a bit of his dialog, anyway.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:09 PM
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33. I loves me some Captain Jack!
It's just too bad that John Barrowman is gay. I'd love to try to get him to switch-hit once in a while. :evilgrin:
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:48 PM
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41. My wife agrees, he is quite hot.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 04:07 PM
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44. Yeah I would be his companion.
Lucky Ianto (can't you see I am a Doctor Who/Torchwood junkie).
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:33 PM
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40. But Torchwood Season 2 starts here in January 2008
"Here" being BBCamerica. www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EEAVypZpFVdHJaHxdp&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle

So we in the US will be just behind the UK. (And the DVD's go on sale that month, too.)

I've found the show maddeningly uneven. But when it's good, it's VERY good. And yesterday's episode--"Captain Jack Harkness"--is definitely one of the good ones.

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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 04:10 PM
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45. I can't wait until January ...
I can't be good so I am going to find "series" 2 on the internet this weekend. I loved the part where the Doctor stopped in Cardiff in front of the Torchwood headquarters to "reboot" the Tardis. I also loved the episode of Doctor Who:Utopia where Captain Jack annoys the Doctor by just being there lol. And when the Doctor explains to his companion about how he regenerated his hand (Captain Jack has the Doctor's hand) ahhh ... I am so into these two shows. I never liked science fiction at all until these two shows came on. Damn Daleks ...
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:14 PM
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49. Torchwood's Season 2 hasn't begun in the UK, either.
So you won't be able to "find" what you're looking for. We'll be a week or 2 behind the UK, rather than waiting until the season has finished over there.

Guest star in the first show: James Marsters. And, yes, there will be kissage. With Captain Jack.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 03:54 PM
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43. God... that KISS!
:bounce:

I love that show. :)
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:01 PM
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47. Mmm... Captain Jack...
I'm sorry, my mind went elsewhere for a moment.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:27 PM
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51. Very Spolieriffic Comment if you haven't see "Last of the Time Lords"
Yes, Jack is one of a kind, He was the from the Boeshane Peninsula and he was the first person from that location to join the Time Agency.
His good looks turned him into the poster boy for the Time Agency recruiting, "The Face of Boe" they called him......
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:25 AM
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53. Very hit and miss
The earlier episodes were awesome but it did begin to suck monkey-testicles towards the end. A large number of people are writers for the series, and some are evidently better than others.
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Byronic Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:40 AM
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54. Hmmmm......
For a long time I was angry at the cast and crew of Torchwood. I used to wander around muttering angrily and cursing 'The Barrowman' as I termed him. I imagined a gun broken over my arm, and, like Elmer Fudd chasing rabbits, had the Barrowman crossed my path, I would have peppered him with imaginary buckshot.

I work in a stately home where Torchwood and Doctor Who is often filmed. In the cellars of said stately home was a 17th century door that I was extremely proud of. It was quite rare in a cellar. It resembled Chinese Chippendale in style and I couldn't resist bragging about it when the public wandered through the cavernous beer cellars. Then, last year, when BBC Wales were filming an episode of Torchwood there, the door got 'snapped completely in two'. I was devastated. Further investigation revealed that it was Captain Jack himself who had fallen against the door with such force that it split in two. The malevolent figure of 'The Barrowman' was born.

The door has since been restored and my anger towards 'The Barrowman' is slowly receding. Accidents happen. Ya wouldn't catch David Tennant crushing antique doors though. He was a true gent.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:52 PM
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56. Sorry to hear that, but glad it's been restored.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:44 AM
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58. David Tennant is too skinny to do that sort of damage!
Of course, it's a sexy kind of skinny.....
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