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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:16 AM
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Saturday pic thread!! Post your newest.
I just got this one scanned. Got any new ones?
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:31 AM
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1. Here is a repeat from a few nights ago

You are a handsome guy.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:36 AM
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3. I love the jammies!!!
and its a great picture of you!!!!

are they soft flannel???

:evilgrin:


lost
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:46 AM
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5. They are pretty soft
I find myself wearing more Jammies now since it is cold as _uck
I can't wait until the cold breaks so i can go back to boxers.
:)and thank you.:hi:
Good Morning
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:29 PM
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70. Some things do not get better with age...
:toast:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:05 PM
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75. You ain't kidding
I'm looking pretty rough lately.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:34 AM
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2. Yeah like I'm going to post one
after looking at that.....


omg



thud


lost

I don't have a new one anyway
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:44 AM
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4. this is from last week
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:48 AM
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6. Awww.
Adorable..(the baby is cute too) :D
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:54 AM
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9. aw, thanks
:hug: Nice PJ's!
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:53 AM
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25. Another mother daughter duo of cuties
:hi:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:52 AM
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7. I have a repeat too

took it myself :blush:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:04 AM
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10. I like that one.
You have a wonderful smile.
And you're pretty dang cute too if you don't mind me saying.
:D
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:33 AM
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16. ty! I was gonna say..
gonna say your jammies rock :headbang: I like to spend as much time as possible in big pj's, I don't have a Superlady shirt but I want one.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:54 AM
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26. hey there!
looks like you did a good job of taking it to me :)

:hi:

:hug:

nice pic!
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:10 PM
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83. TY!
thanks! My best friend HATES when I have the camera in my self-portraits.. I don't wanna pretend though :blush: fake like I had a real photo shoot.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:54 AM
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8. not new
but here

btw nice pic Cannikin

:thumbsup:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:03 PM
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36. You have such a friendly smile SPK!

:hi:

:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:04 PM
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40. thanks Sally
you do too!

:hug:

:hi:
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:06 AM
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11. Your picture is a wee bit more dignified than mine
How to use a netti pot
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:38 AM
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12. LOL I love it.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:45 AM
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13. LOL
That was me about an hour ago
:rofl:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:17 AM
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14. Here's a fairly recent couple of me...


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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:43 AM
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18. Good morning!
:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:48 PM
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46. That was me trying to do a Graywarrior style pic. :)
Although come to think of it... I don't think I'd brushed my hair yet since I woke up that morning...
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:55 AM
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27. d00d, I'm glad you're on our side
:D

nice pics

:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:49 PM
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47. I'm not that scary... am I?
:P
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:32 AM
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103. nah, just messing with ya!
:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:58 PM
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64. A couple that I just took post-shower...

Wet hair


Semi-wet hair


Attempt at mirror close-up. Didn't quite work.
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:32 AM
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15. This is the newest in my photobucket

but it's from the summer. :shrug:

BTW that's a hellbender -- the largest salamander in North America! :bounce:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:44 AM
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19. You're just too cute
:hug:


:pals:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:51 AM
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22. Thanks lg

Hope you're having a nice weekend and staying warm! :hug:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:01 PM
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34. Trying to
It's a meat locker here... :(

:hug:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:04 PM
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39. Yup, i'm under a blanket

and still in my PJs, LOL!


If it gets any colder i'm going to make the dogs sit on either side of me! :D
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:09 PM
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41. How's Lilly adjusting?
and I was actually grateful last night when Widget and Gracie want to sleep on my feet..
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:14 PM
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42. She's doing great

making herself RIGHT at home! :rofl:

We've been treating her various medical conditions and i think she's all patched up now! She's gained a little bit of weight so she's not so bony anymore. Also getting a little more outgoing and playful -- when she first got here she really didn't seem like a puppy, but she's definitely coming out of her shell. :)

She and Elmo have been wrestling -- he's so cute, he just lays on his side so she can tackle his head. :rofl:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:45 AM
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20. yuck.....
that looks like the thing that crawled out of the guys stomach in Aliens...

you on the other hand look great!!!!


:hi:
lost
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:50 AM
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21. Naw, they're ADORABLE!!!

:D


Thanks, lost :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:52 AM
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23. that's a salamander?
i thought they were cute and little and colorful

not big and dark green and well, scary looking

you look nice though :)

:hi:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:56 AM
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28. It's just one kind

The ones i study look like this (maybe more what you're picturing!) :hi:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:57 AM
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29. yeah, cute ones
not scary ones

:hi:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:57 AM
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30. OMG
they are smiling!!!!

to cute


lost
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:58 AM
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31. hmm...
ya seeing smiling salamanders now eh?

:think:

:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:44 PM
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44. Awww, so cute.
Oh, and you're okay too. :P
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:58 PM
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49. LOL

I knew you would appreciate the true *star* of that photo! :D


:hi:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:58 PM
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50. What can I say... some people like their fuzzies and fluffies.
I like my scalies and slimies. :)
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:07 PM
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54. Is that a Salamander in your hands or are you just happy to see me
:silly:
You look like you really enjoy your work.
It is a very lovely picture :D :hi:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:12 PM
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56. LOL! Thanks :-D

I do enjoy it! I am definitely a lucky gal to be doing what i love. :D


A male friend saw that picture and said he wished he could switch places with that salamander... :P :rofl:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:27 PM
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61. Your male friend has wonderful taste.
That or he is a pervert like me :crazy::rofl:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:32 PM
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62. PEV!

Yeah, BOTH of you! :P


:rofl:
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:19 PM
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58. What salamander ?
:crazy:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:21 PM
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59. ...

:spray:


:spank:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:33 PM
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63. You have to look veeeery carefully...
it's in the sig line under the picture. :P
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:03 PM
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65. Are you a herpetologist?
:bounce:

Wicked cool picture!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:19 PM
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66. Thanks! I'm in grad school in biology

(Ecology/Conservation Bio, to be specific)

My research is with salamanders, and the herps have always been my favorite. :D


Are you one? Or did you just know the word? Most people hear "herp" and think something else entirely! :yoiks:

:hi:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:25 PM
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68. I'm just a science freak
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 04:26 PM by Xipe Totec
One course short of a minor in biology.

The rest is not germane.

I love amphibians, always have. I remember playing with axolotls when I was a kid growing up in Mexico.

:hi:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:27 PM
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69. Aww, neat!!!

I would love to see an axolotl in the wild. I've only ever seen pictures/zoo animals.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:31 PM
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71. The ones I saw were Sirenidae
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 04:33 PM by Xipe Totec


Ambystoma mexicanum

:bounce:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:21 PM
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85. so great!
it's the best picture AND the salamander rocks :headbang:
It looks strong, like I bet it was wiggling!
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:29 PM
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87. Thanks!

It was unbelievably strong, and SO slippery! That's why i'm kind of pinning it -- didn't want to drop it! :wow:

I like that pic cuz you can tell how excited i was! :blush: :rofl:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:50 PM
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92. A Hell Raiser holding a Hellbender...
:hi:

RL
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:55 PM
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93. Moi??? *bats eyes*

Actually, it could be a good slogan to raise some hellbender conservation awareness! :D
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:42 AM
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17. Newest I've got-Lelapin and me
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:53 AM
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24. Hi There!
as always, the lovely mother daughter duo makes me smile :)

:hug:

:hi:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:03 PM
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38. I'm glad we make you smile
:hug:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:00 PM
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32. I love that pic

Were you both on DU? ;)
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Of course not...
what makes you think that? ;)

wireless, laptops... no way...

:blush:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:01 PM
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33. HI!
:hi:

lost
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:02 PM
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35. Hi back!
:hug:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:08 PM
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55. I've said this before
Hubba and Hubba :D :hi:
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:35 PM
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73. ...
:blush:

So am I hubba or hubba? ;)
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #73
76. You are both.
:loveya:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:19 PM
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43. you look like edward norton!
i bet you hear that a lot though ;)

here two of my favs from italy:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 PM
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45. Are you sure you're in Italy in the second pic?
'Cause the sweatshirt says otherwise. :)
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:52 PM
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48. in italy.. i just decided to hell with trying not to dress "touristy"
i was cold and i wanted to wear my damn sweatshirt :rofl:

:P
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:01 PM
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51. Well, here's an older one and a newer one:
This was taken in one of those Olde Tyme Photograph shops in Leicester Square, London in 1993:



This one was taken at the Puyallup Fair last summer:

(I've got the Union officer theme going there...)
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:04 PM
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52. But where are your mutton chops?
You gotta have the big sideburns for an old-timey picture like that. :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:07 PM
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53. Nope. The moustache and goatee will just have to do.
No muttonchops for me... B-)
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:18 PM
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57. I suppose I can let it go for the first one.
There you look like you might be young enough to not be able to grow a decent set of chops...

Then again, if I were around in that time period, they'd probably all be laughing at me. Because I'm incapable of growing 'em even at the age of 26. :)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:22 PM
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60. Ah, there were plenty of clean-shaven guys in those old Civil War portraits.
B-)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:22 PM
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67. My dear Cannikin...
This one is brand new...nobody has seen it yet...It's not my typical self-portrait at all...

It's quite possible than nobody will like it...I'm not sure that even I do...
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From The Ashes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:34 PM
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72. Wow Peggy you look so serious...
...but it's a good picture. Love the blue and the earring is cute. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:09 PM
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82. My dear From The Ashes!
I was feeling very serious, and wanted to try and capture that...

I'm glad you like it!

Yeah, blue is my color... :pals:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:01 PM
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74. here I am, just after getting UCI creds to cover the World Cycling Championships!


it's five years old.... but it's the only one I have online...

:hi:
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IzaSparrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:17 PM
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84. Did you get to see "Super Mario" win?
The Lion King is probably one of my favorite riders of all time!!!



Mario Cipollini rep'ing some Julius Caesar action
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:26 PM
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86. Mario rocks! I hear he is in negotiation to be a rider/manager for a team in the US this year!
It would be awesome to catch Mario at the races again!

from Velonews:
Former world champion Mario Cipollini could be back in the saddle as a professional at next month's Tour of California as the long-rumored comeback with Rock Racing looks closer to being a done deal.
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IzaSparrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:30 PM
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88. Was it the 2002 World Championships?
In other news, yah, Mario is apparently talking with Rock Racing, I'm not so sure Michael Ball (team owner) is the best thing for cycling, but he is at least bringing some attention to cycling, hopefully he's paying his guys very well.

That should be a pretty good domestic team this year. A lot of former D-I Euro riders, now a little past their prime, but they'll still do well.

Are you still shooting cycling events?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:13 PM
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94. it was 2003 in Canada. I took a couple years off but we're hoping to catch some
races again this year. Changing jobs (hence losing a lot of vacation) kind of put a crimp in my race trips....
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IzaSparrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:50 PM
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98. cool! wanted to get to that, but school was holding me back!
:grr:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:23 PM
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96. I saw Eddie Merckx win the World Cycling Championship when it was in Montreal
Back in the 70's. I have some photos of it somewhere.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:15 PM
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77. not my newest, but my current fave
My dad, who died when this plane crashed on Thursday, Jan. 10.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:20 PM
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78. I'm so sorry to hear about your loss...
it's a great photo tho - looks like he was very proud and happy sitting in that plane!

:hug:
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:26 PM
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79. Oh, I had never, ever known him to be happier than the last year and
a half, when the FAA had finally signed off on his ultralight and he began to fly.

thank you
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:26 PM
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80. That's hot dude!
Show us more! :hi: :hug:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:27 PM
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81. My newest, taken last year at the Cuban Revolution restaurant
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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:33 PM
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89. from a beautiful summer.....
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:37 PM
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90. The perfect way to brighten up an otherwise
pretty bad day. :hi:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:49 PM
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91. Took me a minute to find something new and postable.


LK took this picture of me with my phone.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:14 PM
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95. 1.4.08
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:38 PM
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97. Taken last week...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:11 PM
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99. That's hawt.
Seriously. It is.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:21 PM
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100. Here's one that I just took ten minutes ago.


Wait, did you say newest or newtest?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:01 AM
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101. No
Nudist
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DemIdeals Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:16 AM
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102. Here's mine
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