Worst RW Movie Ever Made

Feel free to add more... I got some of these from..

http://www.booksfortheright.com/movies.html

And Starship Troopers is such an Anti-war film. The Worst RW film ever meade was Megiddo.

because it seemed so fascist in its psychology. I haven't been able to see it again since it came out, but for me it forshadowed the mindset we have now in the U.S. I realize it was supposed to be "over the top", but so is our culture now - the world they portrayed there was very like what we're living through. Even the details - for instance, it was just mentioned in passing in the film that the conflict between the bugs and the humans was entirely voluntary on the humans' part. Glossed right over it, although, since it was satire, they did put it in. Their CNN of the fantasy future is very like our own.
And just a general lament, whatever happened to the motto: Live and let live?

from the glossing over the causes of war, to the overplaying of sentiment. It also made the humans treatment of the bugs reprehensible many times.

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I forgot that one. Shoot. You may be right.

any movie with Tom Cruise in his underwear is NOT a right wing movie.

It's eye candy for us gay boys!

YUM!

Money trumped morality. But what's her name was HOT, especially the subway scene!

I found it a thinly vieled SATIRE on the right wing. In fact, Robert Heinlein, the book's author, and a right-winger himself, apparently HATED the movie for mocking the pro-fascist overtones of his novel.

Besides, the giant bugs were neat.

You want bad right wing movies? how about any movie John Hugues made after "The Breakfast Club", especially the live action version of "101 Dalmations", which goes off on completely unnessecary tirades about how evil working women are, and ends with the happy(?) ending that Jeff Daniels makes lots of money from a video game so that Natasha Richardson can be a stay-at-home mom. :puke:

they retired on the strength of the videogame.

It was very pro-animal rights.

Don't get me started on John Hugues. Maybe you missed the diatribes against women in "101"? Watch it again, and see how her evil is blamed on the fact that she choose to work rather than have a family.

And how about "Maid in Manhattan" (written by Hugues under a fake name) in which the "hero" is a noble Republican senator.

Hugues is as right wing and despicable as they come.

I thought he died before it was made???

My fact checker is on vacation :-). My point still stands though.

Now where did I hear that he hated it? :shrug:

did she hate it? Is/was she alive??

LOVED the bugs tho...

So presumably she authorized the Starship Troopers movie.

Let's try Google . . . Ah, here's something:

> Virginia Heinlein agreed to a different script, and was shafted. She told
> the SF community that she came close to suing the studio until it was made
> clear that she would lose. She appeared on screen at a WorldCon and
> apologized to the assembled fans for not handling the property better..
> then set off a near riot by casully mentioning that the same mistakes will
> not be made with the "Stranger in a Strange Land" movie...

http://lists.travellerrpg.com/pipermail/tml/2002-July/158678.html

Umm, Heinlein died in 1988, the movie came out in 1997. Maybe he hated it but I don't know who he would've told about it.

:eyes:

my democratic grandparents watch that every easter.

....and the Ten Commandments is just a tall tale.....*moral codes* from GOD...suuuure :eyes:

....still extremely effective at dumbing down the masses....yeeeeeah riiiight Moses parted the Red Sea...suuuure he did....PULEEEEZE...but still people BELIEVE that shit happened...s'been a tool to the elitist for eons :eyes:

I am a CINO remember uniteran leaning.

...my 'beliefs' are based on REALITY...not eons old..exaggerated tales of 'POOF'...but actual factual 'PROOF'....you asked for it you got it! :hi:

its ok I wasnt even mad. Wanna part the red sea with me some time :)

Funded by Sun Myung Moon himself! (from airport flower sales?)

We saw many movies back then and went to that one because we thought it might be the best of the rest.

BORING!!!

It is NOT a Right-wing movie! It is a SATIRE made by a left-wing director who also made "Robocop." It is clearly intended as such, has been reviewed and described as such, and, in the director's commentary on the DVD, Paul Verhoven goes out of his way to insist that it's a completely satirical film.

The Robert A. Heinlein novel it's based on is, in fact, right-wing. But the movie's not.

If I could edit the list i might. I didn't see it as satire when i saw it, didn't know the director meant it as such. Besides, at least 3 folks here thought it belongs.. (I voted for Red Dawn)

Robocop is leftwing???

The bad guys are pro-corporate, anti-union scumbags. And there is a strong anti-chemical waste arguement made, too! :-)

I seem to remember that they made the black mayor of trhe city look like a clown. Or am I misremembering the movie?

BTW: I didn't dislike Robocop, it just didn't do much for me either way.

Have you not seen it? It's a movie about the evils of privatizing.

Why is that so surprising?

But, like you, I did not like it the first time round. On the surface it is a typical fluff/popcorn special-effects action flick that it didn't occur to me that it was a satire of ANYTHING. I took the obvious facist overtones to be just a sad side effect of the decline of our culture into the ME ME ME ME solipsism that the right wing feeds off. But then I watched again and suddenly realised that it is 100% satire of American Fascism and the hollowness of hollywood movies.

Someone - I think it was Ebert - wrote an excellent article in the past year describing how that movie could not possibly have been made post 9/11.

*goes rummaging off*

*comes back disappointed*

Anyway the point was about how the movie spoofs war hysteria, and the class structure underneath it.

was such an anti-war, anti-faux patriotic, anti-fascist movie. I believe that in ST you had to join the military to enjoy the full rights as a citizen. Take it off the poll. Red Dawn was the worst RW movie on that list--with some of the worst acting imaginable (Leah Thompson, C. Thomas Howell, Patrick Swayze, etc...) It was really stinky. It is so bad that it is funny. If it comes on TBS, I watch it just to laugh.

In ST the director's intent is clearly satire. It's obvious to me, it's obvious to many, but what horrified me was the clear portrayal of the emotional motivations of the characters. I hope it's a valid point, not a misunderstanding on my part. I remember reading an essay once about artistic expression in general, and the essayist's point was that art can only portray, it can't take a position on what it's portraying within the art work itself. The viewer needs to bring that in. So, my concern is like a kind of contagion- that by portraying fascist behavior realistically in emotional terms, through acting, art can set some portion of the population up for that way of thinking. Different effects, depending on the mindset of the viewer. The emotional tone of the thing reminded me of the John Wayne movies from my TV youth.

and his film opens with an ironic homage to Leni Reifenstahl's "Triumph of the Will." You can't get much more anti-fascist than that!

I'll go back and rewatch it with satire in mind. Thanks.

isn't that pretty much the baseline for Right Wing Movies? I mean nothing else even comes close.

but I can't say it's the worst, since it is, in all honesty, and incredible work of art put to incredibly evil purposes.

It was de rigeur in film school to watch it. It's beautiful yet incredibly evil.

By the way, Leni Riefenstahl is still alive at 101!

good for her, plenty of time to think about all the crap she did. If I were her, I'd want to live forever as well, cause the afterlife ain't gonna be so nice, you know?

as far as I'm concerned Leni Riefenstahl gets the prize for worst application of artistic talent in the 20th century.

Stallone. 'Nuff said.

...in the movie's final scene, the sun is setting in the east. :eyes:

Gack!

Everybody's forgetting those hilarious anti-Commie movies made during the 50's when Hollywood was desperately trying to prove they was good, loyal, 'merkins to McCarthy and HUAC.

And the ones glorifying the FBI, personally approved by J. Edgar and his dressmaker.

And, lest we forget, the esteemed "Reefer Madness."

n/t

A real gung-ho portrayal of Vietnam; especially the line from the guy who was all shot up and about to die, "I'm proud to die for my country." I wanted to barf. Literally. The movie was long and it sucked, and I **seriously** doubt it was an accurate portrayal of the war in Vietnam.

As for Starship Troopers, it just left me kinda flat. I took it as parody, but it was just not that good.

Bake

We Were Soldiers is *not* gung-ho, particularly the book is not, but the movie is not either. My husband (an ex-Marine Vietnam combat veteran) said that was the closest to an accurate portrayal of their experience he's ever seen.

Read the book, hear what Hal Moore has to say about the whole thing himself. It is not remotely jingoistic or gung-ho. His whole point, from the get-go, was that the juice would never be worth the squeeze - that the whole thing was a pointless waste of human life on both sides. He's also very respectful of the Vietnamese.

I really think you misinterpreted that movie. Please, read the book. It's an excellent (and very sobering) book. It's very possible to be willing, even proud, to die for your comrades, your unit, your ideals and still believe war itself is wrong. That's Moore's point.

Starship Troopers pisses me off beyond belief. Verhoeven should have made his own damn parody and left Heinlein's story (which does NOT glorify war and killing) alone.

...it seemed pretty gung-ho to me. Seemed like an awful lot of clean-scrubbed young guys who couldn't wait to get their asses shot off. Admittedly, I admired Col. Moore for being the FIRST one on the field and the last one to step off. And he was genuinely concerned for every last one of his men. I just thought it was rather "unquestioning" about why we were there in the first place.

Bake

with the DVD extras? There's interviews with Moore at the time (the real Moore, not the movie character). He broke down in tears in one of the interviews. Believe me, he cared. He still cares.

No, it isn't gung-ho. It's a paean to the connection between brothers in arms, yes, but that doesn't make it pro-war or jingoistic.

I really do highly recommend the book. Moore is an interesting, intelligent, well-educated, and very humane man.

What a pile of shit!

made during the Clinton years, sigh, those happy, happy days. Blew up the White House and killed off the First Lady. Right Wing fantasy film.

Geez 'n' stuff....

"Its enough to make me want to eat my own vomit", Guy the Gorilla, The Monty Python Matching Tie and Handkerchief album.

I just dont see it. please explain.

When someone explains it to you, you still might not get it. I know i don't. I think the movie drips with liberal compassion by a man motivated to do the right thing despite the consequences to himself.

The detail around the main message seems to have pissed some liberals off, but for me, the primary message of perserverance through selflessness and caring far overrides any other tangential issues in the movie.
The Professor

in reguards to Starship Troopers, I personally found the human part of the story very boring, but the facist advertisms and news very entertaining. It all reminds me of FOX news now. In your face type news.

The Bugs are bad guys and we must go to war. Fair and baleced. Execution of Kobe at 8:00pm eastern standard. Also survivor pluto at 9:00.

Thats the objective news. I can't help but wonder if the leadership let that meteor through to compell the masses to war.

It's actually startlingly fermiliar once the comparison is made.

All the kids at school read the and I really think they're not very good.

an attempt to justify the killing of 5 year old children :puke:

was disgusting!

david

"Do we get to win this time?"

Written by James Cameron of Titanic and lots-of-movies-with-Ahnuld infamy.