High Fructose Corn Syrup...

responsible for the ultimate fall of western civilization?

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discuss

there will be a test when I return :P

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until government subsidies make it profitable

I was trying to find the great image in Food Fight that shows the effects of corn on the US including the food miles

but here is a short summary


Pesticides? made from petroleum
Fertilizer? made from natural gas (did you know that? I didn't)
both of these run off basically into the Mississippi and end up in the Gulf. There is currently a "dead zone" from Galveston to New Orleans that can't be fished. The algae have mutated and they suck up all the oxygen in the water, no fish or shell fish or shrimp nothing (look it up)

the watering holes in the upper midwest that migratory birds used to stop at have been filled in to plant corn (paid to yield not to market) so the birds are getting their water closer to the farm. If there is a bird flu outbreak THIS is how it will spread.

Hedge rows destroyed eliminating entire ecosystems

Oh and here is another great one. At least 4 Million of the "illegals" that they are so worried about USED to be Mexican farmers but they can't grow for as cheap as we sell it for (market flooded) so they gave up their centuries old way of life and came north to provide for their families.

I could go on.

BTW- about 40,000 Egyptian cotton farmers have committed suicide in the last 10 years. We flood the market with that too.

We only subsidize corn, cotton, and soybeans. No meat. No Veggies. No fruit. At least not in any tangible amount. Want to guess what the Fed supported school lunches have and don't have?

WOW...

is also made from ammonia (sp?)

I saw a program on it on some cable channel. Corn could be our savior.

see post #17 and GET THAT BOOK "Food Fight" GREAT READ

HFCS is merely going to be the cause of human extinction.

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prolly right

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nice graph Perot

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:rofl:

hasn't done me no harm.

well

exceptions are to every rule :P

of the three. You don't have to have a violent allergic reaction to be allergic. Sometimes it is just general malaise. Other times stomach troubles or even brain reactions. I have had reactions to formaldehyde in the form of a severe panic attack and unreality feelings. I know it was the formaldehyde because I had just been exposed to it and the other symptoms were swollen lips and tongue.

Because of that I am upset about those fema trailers that are filled with formaldehyde, (paneling, particle board). They put children in those toxic homes.

i suspect that my apartment is full of something toxic

i stuff up when i come home


and it is hermetically sealed

literally

one small window opens

and the sliding glass door has a screen door

I have slowly started to buy organic things. I have a sheet set and a robe that are organic and they are wonderful. Unfortunately they are very expensive but the prices are coming down. I also have a room air purifier in my bedroom and living room. They are great too and besides cleaning the air I use them as a sort of fan, (since I am in Florida and it's hot).

Seriously!

I baby-sat my friend's 11 year old last weekend. Great kid btw. I took her to see my friend's band play. It was at a restaurant and we went in for the early show. My mistake was letting the kid have the 2nd Italian Soda, which is basically sparkling water with syruping flavoring added to it. By the second drink she was seriously becoming uncontrolable.

The good thing was by the time we got home she was in the crash & burn mode.

It's in everything and it's making all of us fat and unhealthy.

head of the class for you

even things you wouldn't think are sweetened. It packs in more calories than regular sugar.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

go to the head of the class

and I don't even believe in the concept of objective evil.

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true

I avoid it like
the plague.
It is in everything! :grr:
Makes trying to avoid it
even harder.

that stopped drinking soda (me included)
and lost weight......

once in a while I will have a sip or two


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lost

Simple carbs are the problem, whether from corn or sugar cane.

true higher consumption of soda is a problem that is there as well

More fried food. More fast food. It's hardly a mystery.

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Used to make buckets of it when I worked at the Haunted Mansion.

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it is Satan's blood :rofl:

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Canned tomatoes! Crackers. Bread. You name it, it's probably included. No wonder Americans are so fat. And childhood obesity is out of control.

You think HFCS is in everything? It's nothing compared to gelatin.

so I'm reticent to criticize. I'm fond of eating, and having a roof over my head.

j/k

It's become such a big crop that change is going to be hard, maybe impossible. The only thing people can do is cut down on their use of HFCS which may hurt the farmer's in the short run but in the long run, it makes America healthier

I had a parishioner once, a kind eccentric farmer, who decided to grow less corn and beans. He grew sunflower seeds. But when it came time to harvest them, he had no way to ship or sell them. The local elevator wouldn't touch 'em, because all their space was reserved for corn and beans. He ended up bagging them himself and selling them for birdseed at farmers markets. I doubt he broke even.

I do support farmers who try to sell things other than commodity crops. I belong to a CSA, and buy other products locally. I've said for a long time that there's a problem when they're paying researchers to find uses for a crop. This is ass-backwards. The crop should be grown to meet demand, not the other way around.

But farmers are caught in a bind, as was the man I mentioned above. It takes a lot of work to grow and sell anything other than commodity crops.

But HFCS is just a sweetener, no better or worse than cane sugar or honey. The panic about is just foolishness. People are looking for an excuse for their bad diet other than their own lack of discipline. People eating too much sugar isn't the producers' fault, whether they're producing cane sugar, beet sugar or corn.

Don't know where you're getting your orange juice, but mine contains 100% Certified Organic Pasteurized
Orange Juice.

I really want to have a show called "corn syrup challenge", where normal recipes are made, and then they're made with the addition of corn syrup. A taste test follows.

I don't care what the rest of you think. Corn is putting my kids though college.

Flame away -- farmers gotta make a living.

its too bad that farmer's have been reduced to growing corn to supply the HFCS producers

sorry but that's the truth...

:shrug: most of America's farmland now grows corn which is mostly going to HFCS

Of the aprox 940 million agricultural acres in the US only about 90 million is used for corn production.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture breaks Corn Usage into three major categories:

Feed/Residual (50.8% of total U.S. corn usage in 2006)
Food/Seed/Industrial (30.1%)
Export (19.1%)

Of the Food/Seed/Industrial (2006)

Ethanol 18.3%
High Fructose Corn Syrup 4.4%
Starch 2.4%
Sweeteners 2.0%
Cereal/Other 1.6%
Alcohol 1.2%
Seed 0.2%

Yep, that stuff has been paying my bills for the better part of 20 years. I don't bite the hand that feeds me.

It is not healthy, not " natural" ( 7-Up should be ashamed to claim it is!)
and it tastes like hell.

It's in most sodas and even fruit juices claiming to be "all natural".
But you can find those without this awful additive.

Read the labels, people!- Please!

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HFCS is in everything practically

Even Hanson sodas have it, although they are now
offering some varieties without it at Trader Joes.

Juicy Juice doesn't have it as well as the juices Trader
Joes sells and some Treetop blends.

:D

stuff is the work of the devil and is in EVERYfukenThing too

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i agree

George W. Bush and Dick Cheney would be in hiding, probably disguised as old women wearing burkas in some distant land.

Instead we are sitting on the sofa watching Fox News as our bodies and minds slowly disintegrate.

:P

or something like that

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