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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:41 PM
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Songs that should be untouchable
So I got the new Jonatha Brooke CD. I am a big fan, but I was a bit surprised that 3 of the 11 songs are remakes. One of them, The Alan Parsons Project's "Eye in the Sky", she actually improves upon. The other two, however, are songs that I believe should be "untouchable". By that I mean that they are SO unique, or so identifiable to one particular artist, that NO ONE should attempt to cover them.

The songs? "God Only Knows" by The Beach Boys and "Fire and Rain" by James Taylor.

What songs do you think should be untouchable?
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:42 PM
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1. "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley.
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 06:43 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
No one should ever cover that.

(for the good of humanity)
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:43 PM
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3. heh
I have that one in my iPod
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:44 PM
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4. Ok, maybe it's time to let that one rest.
Then again, maybe not. :P
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:46 PM
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8. God no! You can still see a vague imprint where the horse used to be.
I say, keep flogging!
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:44 PM
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5. Never gonna give you up!
Never gonna let you down!
Never gonna run around and desert you!

Never gonna make you cry!
Never gonna SAY goodbye!
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:44 PM
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6. Is that the Irish looking fellow with the black man's voice?
:shrug:

He was GREAT!

For nothing.:D
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:53 PM
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12. He WAS great...
FORMETOPOOPON!!!




C'mon, someone had to...:eyes:

:P
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:43 PM
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2. nothin
I love to hear remakes/covers.. once in a while you find a good one
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:45 PM
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7. No one should ever cover "Respect" by Aretha.
NO ONE!

There are damned few "sacred" songs out there, but that's one of 'em.

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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:47 PM
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9. Agreed. That's a great example.
She got it right the first time.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:56 PM
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15. Ironically, Aretha's version was a remake of Otis Redding's original.

However, Lady Soul placed such a strong imprint on the song, the only similarity between the two versions is Redding's lyrics!
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:50 PM
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10. "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas
Timeless classic. No one else could do it right.

:D
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:51 PM
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11. Here's some. (totally agree on God Only Knows, btw)
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 06:52 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Cortez the Killer
One Nation Under A Groove
Family Affair
True Faith
The Robots
Heroes (I'm talking to you, Dylan boy)
I am the Walrus
Wild Horses (The Sundays have already done the definitive cover)
Dear Prudence (ditto for Siousxie and the Banshees)
Paranoid Android
Block Rocking Beats (because any cover would clearly suck)
Any Nick Drake song
Any Cocteau Twins song
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:17 PM
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33. Huh
I once saw Mercury Rev open their set with "Cortez the Killer." It was fucking AWESOME.

Also, didn't the Balanescu Quartet include "The Robots" on their record of Kraftwerk covers? That was really good, too.

I'm with you 100% on all the rest, though - Swans cover(s) of "Love Will Tear us Apart" should have been good, but really, really specatularly sucked.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:36 PM
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43. Which Swans version?
We posted similar notes, simultaneously!

I like the Michael Gira LWTUA version, not the Jarboe
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:55 AM
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45. Wow
That's TOO funny a coincidence!

I agree that the Gira version is the better one, but I'm not really fond of either.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:35 AM
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48. I saw Mercury Rev at Bellingham, WA in '99, and it was a storming Cortez.
Actually, that's what I was getting at, no one can take it any further. Love Will Tear Us Apart is sealed. No one should break the tape (yeah, I'm looking at you, 80's crooner Paul Young)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:35 PM
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42. Au Contraire...
Three covers SUPERIOR to the originals, that you have listed:

1) Swans - LWTUA (Michael Gira vocal version, not Jarboe)

2) Balanescu Quartet - The Robots (for four strings)

3) Elvis Costello w Brodsky Quartet - God Only Knows (Live at NY Town Hall).


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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:36 AM
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49. I must admit my ignorance of the Balanescu version. I shall rectify this.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:54 PM
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13. Anything from Stax and Motown.
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 06:57 PM by NightTrain
I've yet to hear a remake of a classic '60s/early '70s soul tune that improves upon the original. In fact, 99% of the time, we end up with a putrid million-seller like Michael Bolton's "When A Man Loves A Woman," Simply Red's "If You Don't Know me By Now," Hall & Oates' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," and Uncle Kracker's "Drift Away." :puke:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:56 PM
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16. "When A Man Loves A Woman"
That was practically written onstage, as I hear.

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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:57 PM
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17. Agreed. The Michael McDonald Motown CD drives me up a wall, too
And I used to LIKE Michael McDonald!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:54 PM
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14. Another one: "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye
Why tamper with perfection?

I actually LOVE hearing bands cover the classics, but there's a few out there that need to be left alone.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 06:58 PM
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18. Actually, prepare to flame me,
but I didn't hate Cyndi Lauper's version. But normally I agree with you 100% about Marvin. One of a kind.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:01 PM
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19. I like Cyndi Lauper!
That said, you should try to find the Tuck & Patti cover of "True Colors". Better than the original by far. Tuck Andress is a guitar god, and Patti Cathcart sings like an angel. They've never disappointed me.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:11 PM
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20. Stairway To Heaven
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:29 PM
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27. C'mon man, you didn't like Dolly Parton's version?
Whut?
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ms_splash Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:33 PM
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41. I heard Tiny Tim's version the other day
It wasn't so bad, believe it or not.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:17 PM
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21. Mandy by Barry Manilow
Honey by Bobby Goldsboro
Seasons in the Sun as performed by Terry Jacks
Sugar Sugar by the Archies
Disco Duck by Rick Dees
Peaches en Regalia by Frank Zappa (have you read this far?)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:23 PM
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22. Hey, new_beawr!
If you lean a little closer to your monitor, I'll be able to strangle you.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:37 PM
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25. Got One.......
Can you think of anyone that could ever cover Zappa?
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:45 PM
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26. Camper Van Chadbourne
(Camper Van Beethoven with Eugene Chadboune) did a great Zappa medley, including "Let's Make the Water Turn Black."
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:48 PM
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36. I'm a Camper van Beethoven fan
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:27 PM
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23. None. Contrariwise,
I feel that a good tune should be spread.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:47 AM
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47. Agree- good songs should keep on keepin on (n/t)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:29 PM
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24. Kashmir
Satisfaction
Friend of the Devil
I'm sure there are others
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:31 PM
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28. Lyle Lovett's version of Friend of the Devil is great.. n/t
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:33 PM
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29. Sympathy for the Devil
Every cover that I ever heard has sucked donkey balls. Natalie Merchant should be soundly beaten for what she did to that song.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:43 PM
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30. christmas song - nat king cole & mac the knife - bobby darrin
1 + 1 = 3

each time
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:44 PM
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31. Anything by Styx and Journey
In fact, those songs should all be sealed away so that we never have to listen to them ever again.
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 08:46 PM
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32. Anything done my Monty Python
It's just not the same...
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:20 PM
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34. Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:50 PM
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37. Didn't Clay Aiken do a remix of this?
Maybe that's why you think it should be untouchable!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:28 PM
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35. I heard Jonatha's album, and I liked it
I don't think she's quite a Dar Williams, but this album makes me want to buy it. I'd be more willing if there were more originals. Her previous album hasn't gotten me interested. I thought that "God Only Knows" was beautifully done, but "Fire And Rain" is way off. She doesn't give "Fire And Rain" the emotion it needs.

I don't like it when Beatles songs are re-done. And Kim Richey's songs aren't done right by Nashville stars. Trisha Yearwood's "Believe Me Baby (I Lied)" is very good, but as I remember, Kim didn't put that one on her albums. "American Pie" shouldn't be re-made. Too many things can go wrong.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:26 PM
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39. I must say, though,
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 11:33 PM by mvd
Fiona Apple did a very haunting version of "Across The Universe." I'm a huge James Taylor and Beach Boys fan, so it says something for Jonatha that I think one of those two remakes is perfectly acceptable.

Night, everyone. I have busy or occupied times ahead, so I've been getting a lot of DU in lately.
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:17 PM
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38. "Vincent" by Don McLean
and if it has been remade already give me the person's address so I can punch them in the face.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:31 PM
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40. American Pie
But Madonna already screwed that up.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:39 PM
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:12 AM
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46. Comfortably Numb...
off "The Wall' by Pink Floyd
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 09:38 AM
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50. I heard a remake of Bohemian Rhapsody
Done by some girl band in the 90's. I almost puked when I heard it.
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