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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:06 PM
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Poll question: A woman tells you she has kids, but they live with their father
You think:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:09 PM
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1. It's only one indicator
upon hearing news like that I always knew that I had better dig deeper to find out more about this person before entering into ANY kind of relationship. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's something....don't make snap judgements evaluate the whole situation.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:09 PM
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2. No biggie
You have to assess the situation. It could just be a question of funds to cite one example.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:10 PM
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3. I don't usually think anything bad.
I know several fathers who have school-year physical custody, while the mother has summer custody and they share joint legal custody.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:11 PM
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6. Why did they set it up that way?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:11 PM
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4. i think she must be pretty smart
ask my hubby- number 2- who will ge tthe kids if we divorce. i did that single mom thing. never again.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:11 PM
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5. How about her husband is a bastard that turned her kids against her?
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 07:12 PM by nini
This is what happened to my sister and the bastard got away with all of it because the courts didn't want the kids to suffer any 'emotional damage' having to spend time with their mother. The whole legal fight was the most hideous, ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

don't get me started on this one. Parental Alienation is a HUGE problem and it does happen to mothers too - though I knwo it's mostly the other way around.

NEVER assume a woman is a bad mother or doesn't care -- you never know what goes on behind the scenes.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:12 PM
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7. ok a man tells you HE has kids, but they live with their mother
do people draw the same inferences from that?

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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:20 PM
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11. No...
In our culture, kids ordinarily go to the mother by default, unless there is some reason the mother can't have them. So a father who doesn't have sustody isn't unusual; a mother who doesn't have custody seems to raise a lot of red flags.

Tucker
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:12 PM
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8. The only example I know of that
is one that reinforces every moralistic wingnut's worst prejudices to the tee. That's the problem with samples of one, I guess. Let me not get further into that, it involves a very dear friend.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:16 PM
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9. I think it's best not to judge
or to pry, because it's none of my damned business. :hi:
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:19 PM
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10. she's a horny married lady looking for some action?
i mean, i always tell women in bars that my wife and i are separated-
(hey- she's at home, and i'm at the bar...we're "separated")
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:23 PM
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12. What if you found out she really did have kids
and they really did live with their father? What would your assumptions be?

Tucker
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:24 PM
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13. Wow you cheat on your wife?
What a fine upstanding example of humanity you are. :puke:
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:28 PM
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15. when did i say that i cheat on my wife?
when you assume, you make an ass out of...
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:32 PM
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16. You said -
i mean, i always tell women in bars that my wife and i are separated-
(hey- she's at home, and i'm at the bar...we're "separated")


So in order for you to not be cheating on her, she has to approve of this action. Also, if nothing else, you are still lying to those women in bars, so I stand by my original :puke: .
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:35 PM
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17. since when is talking to women in bars "cheating"??
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 07:37 PM by Beaker
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and it's NOT lying- it's "joking"...you really need to lighten up.
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:37 PM
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18. Since when is lying to people a good quality?
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:49 PM
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22. Ah yes...
the sweet smell of someone being judgemental...
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:43 PM
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21. You should really try using "emotes"
They completely change the meaning of things.

All you said was you like to go to bars while your wife stays home, talk to women and tell them you are seperated.

Using an :evilgrin: or a :D or a LOL even could have changed the entire context of a message that was delivered in a flat way of writing that was easily interpreted as serious.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 01:30 AM
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32. As a woman....
If a man in a bar told me he was separated from his wife, I would be no more likely to be "interested" in him than if he said he was happily married. Too complicated--I'm single, he'd better be, too. Period.

However, if the aim is just conversation--as it usually is--"separated" would set off alarm bells. I'd rather discuss music or art or what an a**hole Bush is than the evil witch that done him wrong.





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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:26 PM
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14. Not enough information to make a judgement.
There are all kinds of reasons kids live with one parent or the other. I would resist making an assumption.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:40 PM
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19. My answer would depend on whether she lives with their father.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:41 PM
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20. No--I mean, she is a non-custodial divorced parent
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:49 PM
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23. is this the answer you're fishing for???
"my god- what are you? a slut, or an unfit mother??"
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:55 PM
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24. No, the correct answer is:
"Are you a drug addict or just a nut?"
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:57 PM
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25. For your practical purposes I think it means
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 07:58 PM by slackmaster
If you are interested in a relationship with her it means no kids right now, but the possibility of instant kids later if custody changes.

:D
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:28 PM
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26. When my parents divorced
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 11:36 PM by populistmom
I would have been much better off with my father because he has problems, but is better with children. Not that that is your situation, but I'd hope people would be open enough to realize that sometimes circumstances in one way or another necessitate this.

I haven't exactly been shy in saying I'm not exactly 100% happy in my marriage the past few years and we have talked about this stuff with each other. I have 3 boys and for their benefit, it might even be better for their dad to have primary custody if we can't work out all our various funks. My daughter will be almost in high school though by the time we could split and she'd probably be with me, but we'd stay close geographically and work it out the best we can to be as joint as possible. I've had thoughts of seperating, but ultimately until we could both be in a situation where we can work things out enough for the kiddos if we split, we're together. Right now, two households and taking care of our mutual career and educational pursuits is financially impossible.

Anyway, I don't judge. I'm in no place to judge anyone these days. :(
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:02 AM
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27. It is rare for the father to get major custody
I know of a case where the father should have and didn't
Another case where the father got custody and shouldn't have. He had more money, the kids 'wanted' to stay with him, he was a local rich influential personage. The woman found out why the dog didn't like him, she found him screwing the dog and then suspected abuse of the children. Divorced but the kids wanted to stay with dad for the material things. The son is still hesitant about what happened with his father, the daughter has an Electra complex.
You never know.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:05 AM
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28. Falls under the category of
Things that make you go "Hmmmmm."
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:05 AM
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29. 4 months from now I'll be saying that
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:07 AM
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30. Other
No Judgement about her fitness as a parent from me. That's just the choice they made.
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 02:47 AM
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34. Yes.
I can imagine many reasons that are not casting a negative light to the parents.
For example the mother could have a job where she has to travel much. Or the father´s place has much more possibilities for the children (better schools, or so).
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:51 AM
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31. I think I'm glad that's not my situation
If I were to live with my father I might be a Freeper *screams*
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 02:32 AM
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33. A woman who is divoced and doesn't have custody

of her kids doesn't have to share either of those personal details when she first meets someone. Why chance turning someone off before he or she gets to know you?

Whether you're talking about people you might become friends with or people you might develop a romantic relationship with, you don't have to tell the whole truth about yourself when you're just becoming acquainted.


Remember, there are two secrets of success in life.

#1. Don't tell everything you know.

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