If there is some type of intelligent phenomenon controlling this universe, PLEASE...

...do not let this self-absorbed wash-up, become the QB of my team. NOOOOOOO!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/05/05/favre.vikings.ap/index.html

He needed to be fired 2 years ago.

:wow: Dude gets blamed because the idiotic management of Green Bay ran a PR campaign to force him to retire before he was ready. He left Green Bay with a 13-3 record, went to a cellar team, and made them one of the best teams in the NFL until he blew out his arm. Meanwhile, the team that ran him off went from elite to "rebuilding" overnight.

I'd take him as a QB for any of my teams, and that would mean dumping Romo, Breeze, Kerry Collins, or whomever the Texans are starting now.

If you're team is the Vikings, though, I hope you get your wish. I'd hate to see the Vikings succeed at anything but whining about their "bad luck."

:evilgrin:

Favre got the Al Gore treatment from the media. They'd ask him out of the blue "Are you going to retire any time soon?" and Favre would say "I don't know, I haven't really thought about it, and I wouldn't think about it until the season was over, anyway," and they'd report "Brett Favre mulling retirement at end of season, not sure what he plans to do." And the media scores another one.

And I didn't really know him as kids, I just knew a lot of people who knew him and ran into him now and then. No idea if he'd remember me. I wouldn't have remembered him except that my best friend's sister had a crush on him, so I spent a whole summer taunting her with Brett Favre's name. "Sissy loves Brett Favre," or the ever popular "Brett and Sissy, sittin' in a tree..." A name sticks in your memory after that.

...that my view might just be a little bit different on this subject.

Still, it's cool having 2 degrees of separation from a legendary, HOF quarterback.

At some points, legends have to make way for the young guys. Montana had to make way for Steve Young -- it's just the nature of the game. At some point, he needs to actually stay retired.

Maybe he could stay retired if he actually retired by his own choice. I remember, in a different sport, when Nolan Ryan went to the Rangers at nearly 40, and everyone said he should he retire. He pitched some of his best years there. When the ball stops traveling as far as he throws it, then it's time to retire, but before his injury late last season, he was as good as or better than just about anyone in the league.

As for Rogers, I hope he gets the chance. I liked what I saw of him as a backup, but his team is so bent on coming up with excuses for why they fell apart after trading Favre that they make him the scapegoat or even sabotage him, as a way to take the blame of the egomaniac GM. He'll do well if he gets the chance. If they'd have kept Favre another season or two, built up the line and the receiving corp, and worked Rogers into the mix more, Rogers could have inherited a darned good team on a roll. Instead they gave him a team that only Favre could win with--not so much because Rogers isn't as good, as because he's just a different type of QB. Anyway, I like Rogers, but the team didn't do him any favors.

As for being 2 degrees from a legendary HOF QB, it has its drawbacks. Puts one's own unmet expectations into vivid color. I remember thinking of him as a little redneck kid who would peak around 10th grade, while I conquered the world. :rofl:

Sorry

...interception machine on my team.

Back at you...:wow:

And may I add...:crazy:

This will be Jackson's year, I'm sure. Or didn't y'all find some other powerhouse? I forget.

Favre's interceptions were the result of him trying to throw passes on a team with no receivers to catch them. Most QBs these days worry so much about their ratings they hang onto the ball when nothing's open, preferring to lose rather than ruin their ratings and their contract negotiations. Favre tried to win the game. When his receivers were open, he threw few interceptions. When they sucked, which was often, he tried to force passes to win the game. Sometimes he did, sometimes he threw interceptions, but he won a lot of games most other QBs wouldn't have even competed in. That's why the coaches and analysts around the league rate him so much higher than the average fan.

But as I said, I'd hate to see the Vikings get a QB. They could be a real contender then. Hopefully Favre will stay retired.

...first, before you speak, you need to know about the team you speak of. Minnesota's receivers are among the worst in the NFL. You think a 39 year old QB on his downside by about 8 years is going to be the next Peyton Manning, or whomever? If you knew about the team, you'd know the head coach blew it about 3 years ago when he didn't get a QB for the future. A real QB. Favre will spell his doom, and that is the silver lining.

None of your receivers has ever seen a pass come anywhere near them. Jackson, Bollinger, Brad Freaking Johnson? Hell, I know at least two of those can't pass even with a great receiving corp because I watched them try in Dallas.

None of your receivers has ever seen a pass come anywhere near them. Jackson, Bollinger, Brad Freaking Johnson? Hell, I know at least two of those can't pass even with a great receiving corp because I watched them try in Dallas.

But they've changed a few players since then. The only thing that matters is the last few years. And during that time, they didn't have Fran Tarkenton throwing the ball.

...you're better than that.

Their past isn't an issue, only their present, in terms of becoming competitive. Favre could improve the team right now more than anyone other single available player in the NFL. That has nothing to do with following the team since 1969, that has to do with what they are in 2009. I don't see anything ridiculous in that, nor anything to make you say you'd expect better from me.

I've watched Peterson enough in college and the pros to know that all he needs is a little success at QB to really open up his chances, and thus the team's chances. Give him a great QB, and the receivers will get better immediately, and that team would look better overnight.

...no longer the QB of the team. Those types of comments are insulting, and frankly, beneath you.

By me stating that I've been a fan of the team since 1969, that would - or should - let you know that I have followed every draft pick, FA pick-up, and everything to do with my team on an infinitesimal basis, probably more so than you, unless you have shared that same experience as a fan. I find it hard that I have to explain this to you, since I don't consider you as dumb.

If you were a fan of this team - as I am - you would understand that a stop-gap like Favre is not the answer, since we have had many opportunities to fix our QB problem. Thus, is creates much frustration, and we'd like to see our coach, get the ax. I don't really know how more easily I can explain it.

Your team needs a QB, and you don't have one now. Obviously Favre isn't a long-term solution, but the Vikes don't even have a short-term solution. Without a decent QB, the rest of the team goes to waste. The receivers don't get to learn routes, the team doesn't get to learn winning. Put Favre on the team, and that changes. You get positive experience for the team, and you lose nothing, since Favre is just a free pickup. Next year you draft one of the hot QB prospects or pick up a young veteran from the market, and move on. I don't have to follow a team's every draft pick for forty years to see that they'd be better with a good QB than without a decent QB.

The Jets were worse than the Vikes two years ago, and adding Favre immediately made them a playoff contender until his injury. Now that team feels like it can win, because they've experienced winning. They are better now than they would have been if they'd played Pennington another year. Same thing could happen to the Vikings, if they make the right move.

As for what you find insulting, I have reread the posts, and still have no idea. I commented on the team only. I'm a Cowboys and a Saints fan, I get far worse all the time around here. For that matter, I'm obviously a Favre fan, and your OP was a lot more insulting to him than my pointing out that the Vikings haven't had a decent QB since Tarkenton is to the Vikings. If my running down your team insults you personally, then sorry, but I wasn't even as vicious to them as you were to Favre.

He's way better than Tavaris Jackson!

are better than Tavaris Jackson, and I know nothing about you. :)

He sucks at what's he's doing, and he's making thousands of dollars.

I'm awesome at what I'm doing and I'm making a little above minimum wage/hr. :grr: :(

That's pretty bad considering that arkansas hasn't had a decent quarterback in many years.

I'd like to help you, but I can't be everywhere at once.

Regards,
God