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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 07:59 AM
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Oeditpus Rex's thread got me thinking, what NFL records will stand forever?
Edited on Wed May-13-09 08:07 AM by JonLP24
Considering Jerry Rice has many records I'm just focusing on Jerry Rice's big 3 recieving records. Yards, receptions, and touchdowns.

In 19 seasons
1,549 Receptions, 22,895 yards, and 197 touchdowns

This doesn't count any rushing yards or rushing TDs he may have.

Randy Moss is making good progress in 10 seasons
843 receptions, 13,201 yards, and 135 touchdowns.
At 32 years old he doesn't have many years left and has some catching up to do.

On the other hand Anquan Boldin has a hell of a head start.
In just 5 seasons he has
502 receptions, 6,496 yards, and 40 touchdowns

Even with that Jerry Rice's big 3 records still seem out of reach.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:25 AM
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1. Garo Yepremian's Super Bowl passing rating
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:38 AM
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2. There has to be a minimum of pass attempts for those passer ratings to mean anything
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:06 AM
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3. Lombardi.
Not a record per se, but no one ever will be more like god than Lombardi.

Whatever records there are in football, Lombardi stands on top of them all.

In whispered, hushed tones of awe and reverence, for a thousand generations, people will speak the name "Lombardi" by itself, and all will know what is meant.

Lombardi.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:33 AM
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7. He has the most championships if you count the years before the Super Bowl
7 total. 5 NFL Championships, 2 Super Bowl championships.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:13 AM
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4. I think Jim Brown's career yards per game will be tough to beat
Since Brown retired in his prime...

And, I mean somebody to legitimately beat his record, not play 2-3 years and then retire due to injury or something.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:16 AM
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12. And most teams are going with a 2-3 back offense
To use the Patriots as an example, Sammy Morris and Laurence Maroney share most of the running duties, with Kevin Faulk serving as a change-of-pace option who enhances the pasing game, especially on 3rd down situations.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:22 AM
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5. Paul Krause's interception record is the first one that comes to mind.
QBs are much more inclined to avoid superstar defensive backs now then they were back then, when QB ratings and national TV coverage for every team weren't in existence. I can't see anyone ever breaking Krause's record of 81.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:31 AM
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6. TO has better numbers than Moss, but he doesn't have the QB anymore.
He's got 951, 14122, and 139. A couple years ago it was looking like he would make a run for the TD record, but after a couple years of Jason Garret's coaching, and now being in Buffalo, it looks unlikely. He's 35. If he plays 5 more seasons (and in the condition he's in, it's possible), he'd have to average 12 TDs a season. Given that TDs are his strength and that he'll be the go-to guy for the Bills on the goalline, it's just barely possible. He scored 10 TDs last year with the Cowboys with a lousy offensive scheme and a coordinator who wouldn't throw the ball to him.

Moss has a better chance if Brady is back to form. At 32, he's got 5 more seasons, at least. He's not as much of a health/workout nut as TO, and not as disciplined, so he could break down earlier, but even so, 10 to 12 TDs a year for five or six years doesn't seem unlikely. He'd get more in the next two years, and diminishing numbers over the last few, probably.

If not for Brady, I don't think Moss would have as much of a chance as Owens. His numbers were fairly average until Brady gave him 23 TDs in one season. Not that Moss didn't have a lot to do with that (I even thought Moss should have gotten the MVP over Brady that year). But in general TO is a better receiver, in better shape, and he has taken the job more seriously since he's been in the league (not that he doesn't have his own issues, but they aren't related to his health or game preparation). If he'd been able to stay with the Eagles, or had gotten a better coordinator than Garret in Dallas, he'd be farther ahead than he is now. For that matter, give either Moss or Owens Or Boldin a career like Rice, with Steve Young following Joe Montana in a well-run passing offense, and any of them might rival Rice, too. Rice was incredible, but he also was in the right place at the right time.

Just my rambling thoughts on the subject. If pushed, I'd say Moss won't catch the TD record, Owens probably won't but has a chance if he gets a good QB each of his next five years and doesn't get injured, and it's just too early to tell with Boldin.

And none of them will catch Rice's receptions or yards, unless Boldin goes somewhere with a solid QB.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:34 AM
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8. I know that, I didn't mention him because he doesn't have a good as chance as
Edited on Wed May-13-09 09:37 AM by JonLP24
Moss.

I mean, you make great points. I just listed Moss because he was younger, but he was VERY good at Minnesota. He fell off in Oakland but Minnesota years were great.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:08 PM
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17. He was great in Minnesota.
Without a really good QB, too.

The only reasons I'd give TO a better shot are that he's in better shape, and the Patriots are so good that when Moss drops off in a couple years, Brady will have other targets. TO keeps picking teams with weak receivers, so that he can be THE guy, so even when he has weaker QBs, he's the primary target and racks up TDs that way.

Then again, when Moss drops off, he may go to another team, too, so that may not mean anything.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:19 PM
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19. I never did consider that
Ever since that show Punk'd staged an auto accident near his home in New Jersey, believing it to be real he attempted to save an elderly man from an overturn bus I liked him alot as a man. Granted it wasn't real but it showed me another side the media doesn't show. I remember a big deal was made when he missed a voluntary workout, which prompted him to say he has an aggressive personal offseason workout program. But considering his shape he does have a good chance.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:38 AM
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9. The collective arrest records of the Dallas Cowboys?
:P
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:06 AM
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11. +44-6
:rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:49 PM
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20. We're proud of that one. The Bengals are trying, but they don't have the rich tradition.
I mean, we can go back to Hollywood Henderson, and if you count Quincy Carter's post-Cowboys arrests, we are still climbing, Baby.

Michael Irvin could have done more, though. What, one arrest? Pshhh. Lightweight.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:58 AM
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10. With the league looking to expand to 18 games in a season
I don't think many records are safe. The only one I could see standing for some time, is the Dolphin's perfect season and even that one would have to be qualified with being in a 14 game season.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:23 AM
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13. If they do go to 18 games, I think something like Brown's record
of 104 yards per game for a career is tougher to break, since he was playing in a 12 game season. More chances of injury if you have an 18 game regular season, 4 preseason games, and potentially 3-4 playoff games. Back then, it was 12 game season, and what, 1 or 2 playoff games, if that?
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:25 AM
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14. If they do increase the games they also proposed just 2 preseason games
To even itself out.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:42 AM
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16. Good point per game records may be safer
the totals for the season records and career records are sure to fall though.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:30 AM
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15. The Vikings never winning a Super Bowl.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:09 PM
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18. If they sign Favre, they could win this year.
Couldn't resist. I tried, I really did.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:51 PM
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21. Sammy Baugh's four tochdowns thrown and four interception caught single game record
Safe if you ask me.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:54 PM
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22. The Steelers' 12 Hall-of-famers from one Super Bowl team
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