Is it wrong to pray for someone's death?

And I'm not talking about someone who is terminally ill and in pain and who needs relief.

I'm just talking about the "s/he needed killin" kind of a-hole who just makes existence miserable for everyone around him/her.

all the praying in the world isn't going to change the outcome. ;)

There are times when I can see why someone could feel that way though.

and sociopathic

unless you are praying to satan, then it's okay

(Although you can find practitioners in any faith who would find a justification for that sort of prayer.) I'm not religious, but my preference is to wish/pray for a change in behavior away from assholehood (and if that doesn't happen, then you kill them...)

I'd say pray that they will see the error of their ways and become a better person or barring that, pray they move far far away.

There, now we're even.

that much hate for someone.

...but if one does have that much hate, what is he or she supposed to do about it?

Luckily my own situation consists of occasional brief contact, but his behavior affects someone I love dearly and sometimes I really do hate him. But, it helps me to not dwell on what I have no control over. He owns his behavior, not me. Sometimes it's easier to put people like that in the lifetime A$$hole club, knowing they're never going to change and it's a waste of my time and energy to think about them.

You're just talking to yourself and you already know you want so-and-so dead.

And if some god is listening then it is up to said deity and not you.

As with most prayers, the answer will be "no."

But I'm not God

That role goes to Regis Philbin

Does she pee through that thing or something? x(

I see a lot of soccer moms in the gym who get that exact effect. I'm surprised she didn't have minor surgery to get rid of it.

:o

It's sort of like thinking to yourself: "Dick Cheney is a miserable piece of human excrement."

Though it is tempting at times. I have been known to pray that someone will just go away and leave the rest of us in peace, though. Not nearly as damaging to oneself, spiritually speaking. I've also been known to wish for a habitable - but uninhabited - planet somewhere to send the jerks and twits. Most of Fux News and their fans for example.

..in the sense that it means you suffer from delusions that there is actually someone or something other than yourself listening.

I don't mind what you believe nor will I ridicule it. Such utter bullshit.

If they don't have a machine to intercept and record your prayers already, they are working on it.

And incidentally, since you sound like a fellow atheist, don't you get disgusted when people tell you YOUR beliefs are delusional? Why do it to someone else?

Wrong? No. A waste of time? Yes, but that is because I am an atheist.

'Cuz that's actually like wishing them well, right?

Heh.

I've alway thought wishing them a long lonely life of total awareness because s/he drove everyone away is better. There are worse things than death.

:silly:

But I am not as fine a person as some here....


mark

If you want the job done right, just do it yourself.

Most Gods are pretty smart that way. If you really mean it, then yes, obviously it's not nice. "Wrong" is a pretty subjective concept. If it does no harm to them, I can't see the case that it's absolutely wrong, even if you sincerely want to see them die.

The real question is, then, is it harmful to you yourself to devote your wishes to someone else's pain?

As I read as a child in the Yom Kippur prayer book, there was once a Rabbi whose neighborhood was blighted by a gang of unruly youths who caused all kinds of trouble for everybody. They especially targeted the Rabbi because he was a symbol of authority. One day, in exasperation, the Rabbi prayed for the deaths of the troublemakers. His wife heard him praying and scolded him, "It is wrong to pray for their deaths, because the Torah says that God does not desire the deaths of sinners, but that they should turn from their ways and embrace righteousness. If that is the will of God, it should be your desire as well."

Maybe a little too saccharine, but it's a lesson that's stuck with me. So, I always try to avoid even secretly wishing death on people, even if a change in their ways is unrealistic and even if it doesn't make me feel any better about some of them as individuals :)

it is bad karma.

as well as their demise. Aside from the moral question of wishing for someone's death there simply is nothing to be gained making them any more a part of your life than they have to be. If it's a family member or someone with whom you interact everyday I'd say try to give yourself as much space as you can.

surrounded in the light and going far far away from me. :D

make one of those dolls. Can you imagine the fun you could have with a Rush Limbaugh or Hannity doll?

Let God handle that ish...

No, I will not elaborate.

I can tell you it's probably a bad thing.

A thieving, child-abusing meth cook, to be precise.

God hasn't answered my prayers. Prick.