Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Children at recovery meetings. What's your opinion?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:21 PM
Original message
Children at recovery meetings. What's your opinion?
We know a couple who has been bringing their 1 year old to every damn meeting since he was 3 weeks old. It is now extremely distracting but no one will say anything to them. How would you handle this, especially when you like the parents but at this point want to strangle them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. I'm not familiar with the structure, but if there is some type of host, facilitator, or group leader
that person should explain to them that the child is distracting and it would be more appropriate for them to not bring it with them. If it is a group that has no "formal" leadership, perhaps researching some potential child care options for the time period in question and providing that with an honest statement that "hey, your kid is cute (or whatever) but we are having some difficulties with the work that we are here to do. Could you please try one of these options so we can all concentrate on what we are doing?"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. That would require normal thinking
Trust me, I think half the group is wallowing in a nice comfortable resentment. LOL.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:38 PM
Response to Original message
3. Having been that kid...
Edited on Thu May-14-09 04:40 PM by LeftyMom
Well, older, but still a kid getting dragged along to a parent's meetings, I heard a lot of shit a kid really doesn't need to hear. My mother had some sort of goofy "scared straight" idea that hearing about people's low bottoms would keep me away from that sort of thing, as if seeing the fruits of her addiction wasn't enough... :eyes:

Adults need that space to talk about their addiction, that talk is naturally going to enter a lot of territory that isn't really appropriate for younger ears. They need to make other arrangements for the kid before the kid is old enough to understand much of anything, and sooner if the child's presence is disruptive.

I was just wondering yesterday why one rarely/never sees meetings with a childcare option. I used to earn extra money by handling childcare for the local H&I/PI training, but I don't recall ever hearing of a regular meeting that a volunteer or paid childcare option. I'm sure that's a major obstacle to participation for a lot of people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. It may be time to establish a child care option to meetings
especially since this child's attendance has opened the door to other people bringing their kids to meetings. Sometimes we have 3 crying children at a meeting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. It wouldn't be much to hire a paid caregiver for 2 hours a week
or the families that need childcare could work out some sort of cooperative arrangement and take turns. Personally I'd suggest the former, less liability if the group just hired from a service or whatever for that time period- that way they'd be background checked, up on their shots, etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Yeah, the liability thing would be an issue here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
4. Might be TMI for a small child
IMHO
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
5. Only the kid can say if they need recovery...
Oh, wait. That's not what you meant?

:D

In all seriousness, I brought my kids every now and then when I had no choice.

It annoyed me, so I could imagine how it annoyed others. So I stopped.

RL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
6. Does he like coffee?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Yes...and donuts.
And he smokes like a chimney.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. And he'll have a 3' long collection of keychains before he's old enough to drive...
But on the plus side, he's not out there doing lines of powdered Enfamil with the other babies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Bwahahaha!
Not that, but he does like to unbutton his mom's shirt at the meeting. Talk about losing focus at what's being said when everyone in the room is staring at mom's chest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:46 PM
Response to Original message
8. When they're little, they're annoying
and when they're older they inhibit the conversation- or else they hear too much.

I think it's great if they understand that Mom or Dad are getting help for a problem, but I don't think they're ready for all the details.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
11. Better than bringing them to a bar.
Live and let live.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. True
Until you can't hear the speaker
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:15 PM
Response to Original message
16. Give him some cigarettes and coffee
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
17. Depends
I go to a rough first step hall, where the kids behave better than adults at times. We request that the children be supervised. What I see, if a child is being noisy, is kind of a tag team event of helping the (usually) single mom out. Of course, we also get women from Peri-natal treatment center with limited choice in meetings. I do know of a group that doesn't want kids, and has a volunteer to assist the person to find another meeting. I don't go to that one.

I'd give them a list of meetings with childcare in this case though
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 05:50 PM
Response to Original message
18. As long as they FREE THE DUCK, I would not have a problem.
:shrug:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
19. as long as he has a desire to stop drinking (if it's a closed meeting)
then no prob.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:02 PM
Response to Original message
20. Hmmm, what to do. At my regular meeting, we occasionally
do some discernment of the group conscience about issues. Not this one specifically, but about people consistently coming late, cross-talk, that sort of thing. We just took some time at a meeting, and talked about the issue. Of course, the problem is that you'd have to talk about this in front of the kid's parent(s) and the kid him/herself. You can gently raise the issue, but it's a good idea to know you have an ally or two beforehand.

You can remind the parent that "group well-being comes first" or whatever similar saying you have in your program.

Not much help, I suppose, but my experience. Good luck!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. Good points
We may need to have a consciousness meeting
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
21. I thought you meant people having children at recovery meetings
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 06:13 PM
Response to Original message
22. I have not been to any recovery meetings.
However, I would think that would be a big, fat NO. On many levels.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 15th 2024, 07:52 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC