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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:16 AM
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dead malls in your area?
www.deadmalls.com
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:17 AM
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1. I've seen a few which are dying...
And the last I recall, the Mall of Amrica's got a couple of closed down stores as well...
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 10:56 PM
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25. The MOA is rennovating a bunch of stores.
I don't think any of them are permanently closed.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:21 AM
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2. Ours died; shiny new one a little further down the road
The old mall just couldn't compete with the new mall. Better stores; better stuff, better design.

The old mall was torn down and replaced with a SuperTarget that just opened this past week. Unfortunately there is a SuperWalMart going up at that same locale. But Target's getting a jump on them by several months. }(

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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:24 AM
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3. we got dead malls
one mall has forty store fronts available with perhaps
three in use. Sad.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:26 AM
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4. Mackie's (sp?) World in Grand Rapids
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 11:30 AM by ih8thegop
It was a children's mall.

RIP Mackie's World: 1999-1999.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:30 AM
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5. I love that site - I spent hours on it over the holidays
It reminds me of the late Aurora Village, just north of Seattle. At one point, they had a Frederick & Nelson, a Nordstrom, a multiplex cinema and lots of other shops. Then it just started falling into decay, the theater closed, F&N went out of business. Finally, they just tore the whole thing down and started over with big box stores like Costco and Home Depot. Weird.
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ProudGerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:32 AM
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6. You know a mall is dying...
When the busiest store in the building is the liquor store.

Saw that in Portsmouth Va.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:36 AM
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7. Filmmakers will never run out of sets for zombie movies
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 11:59 AM
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8. Dead mall here in Tampa.
I call them "blight" malls. There is one that I thought was thriving near the Bucs' stadium. Now there is nothing.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 12:31 PM
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9. let the all die
and get rid of the plastic. Then perhaps we can have downtown back with small merchants who know our names, ask us how we are and mean it! No more wal marts screwing the little employee who hasnt a hope in all of making it out of there and find a decent life.
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gyopsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:33 PM
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22. It's the exact opposite
The little stores are the ones that are dying and stores like "Supertarget" are taking their place. These malls dying is not a good thing and it symbolizes the end of small business in America.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:55 PM
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23. Walmarts hurt mall stores too
The mall that I mentioned was a mix of both National chain stores and local business. Guess which ones closed first.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 12:45 PM
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10. a lot in the Kansas City area
Indian Springs, Bannister Mall, Metcalf South
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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 12:51 PM
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11. There's two or three within easy walk of my place.
Just east (and one block south) of me is the former "Centretown Mall," which has been disused and empty for years (there's a lot of that in my neighbourhood, which is just coming back from being one of the worst here).

The big mall downtown is, if not dead, then at least gravely wounded. They tore down the dead mall that was there to build it, built a giant, ugly brick box that's practically inaccessible from the street (all the stores face inward, so you have to come in at one of the six entrances on a mall that covers two city blocks!), and has never operated to capacity. Granted, it's doing a little better now than it was, as the downstairs is only at about 20% vacancy, but the entire upstairs is practically empty. Since they moved a call centre, a giant gym, and university and college continuing ed classes there, it's been a bit better, but still!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:56 PM
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12. Downtown Green Bay mall is in critical condition-
it has a lot to do with parking too.

Younkers pulling out, only J.C. Penny anchor left.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:57 PM
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13. Greengate has now been completely destroyed and new
construction has started.

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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 01:58 PM
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14. One
Bashford Manor in Louisville is being razed to build a Super Wal-Mart and a Lowe's Home Improvement outlet.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:02 PM
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15. Assembly Square Mall in Somerville, MA
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 02:04 PM by RationalRose
Now only has a K-Mart at one end and Building 19 at the other. They are slated to bring in IKEA next year sometime.

On edit: there are many empty storefronts in BUSY malls around here, as well as in some of the busy pedestrian areas. I try to give my business to local merchants rather than malls.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:15 PM
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17. I heard they wanted to tear it down and put up condos.
I remember early in high school when it had good stores but around my senior year most of them closed.
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analogman Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:10 PM
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16. As Chris Rock said...
There are the malls that white people go to, and there are the malls that white people used to go to. Dead malls are the ones that white people used to go to.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:21 PM
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18. Not just malls...dead strip centers
I know of a dead strip center that was dead for years...only tenants was a gay disco and a secondhand store.

Then it was torn down and replaced with an office park.

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 02:48 PM
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19. Nope, none where I live in No. Georgia.
More and more new malls keep popping up. People here just love to shop.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:07 PM
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20. In my home area in Ohio
The area has suffered a huge economic downturn, starting in the late 70's after enjoying over 100 years of prosperity. Many good factories have closed. A few have replaced them but they generally pay less than half wages of those before them. The mall was built around 1980. When I was in elementary school, it was at full capacity.
Now it is probably around half if that. Besides the continuing economic slide of the area, other factors include: Walmart coming to town, the rebound of a somewhat nearby city and the expansion of their mall, and the outside owners living hundreds of miles away keeping rent high until it was too late.
We'll see what happens in the future. It seems like that when anything good happens for my hometown that something bad happens to it a couple months later, keeping it in a downward spiral.
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gyopsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:31 PM
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21. We've got several
down here in Florida. A lot of snow birds come here and they expect things to be nice. When a mall has reached about 20 years of age, it seems to no longer be worth anything. It's a shame.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 10:55 PM
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24. Gateway Mall - Bismarck, ND
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 10:57 PM by northwest
I went there a couple years ago. Completely abandoned. The 100-store Kirkwood Mall is the big mall in town. Guess they took away all the business. Gateway is the older mall. I guess they're talking about converting Gateway into a big-box development.
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