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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:52 PM
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What if Syd Barett had stayed with Pink Floyd?


Say, what if he joined them on Wish You Were Here?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:05 PM
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1. I think they would have had to change the name of the album to...
"Wish I Was Here".

But other than that...
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:33 PM
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2. They would have remained a 60's psychedelic jam band.
Like a weirder version of Iron Butterfly or something.

Interesting to see where David Gilmour would've ended up, though.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:12 PM
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3. I think he was going to join Floyd no matter what
He was a good friend of Wright and Mason. And Roger liked his style.

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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:36 PM
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8. Syd or (Roger Barrett) , Roger and David grew up together as teenagers in Cambridge England.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:54 PM
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10. That was it - I knew he had some Pre-Floyd connection
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:22 PM
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4. Floyd would have had to become a studio-only band, or lose all its fans and disappear.
Syd's increasingly erratic behavior, especially in live performances, would have ensured the doom of the band. Unless they just gave him instruments to play that weren't plugged into anything and weren't actually required for any song.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:11 AM
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6. Didn't they do that for a few of Syd's final shows?
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:49 AM
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18. They did do that
After Dave came on board, they unplugged Syd's guitar so they could actually play the songs. The only way Syd could have stayed in the band was if his mind hadn't chugged around the bend from too many heavy-duty psychedelics. Dave was destined to be Floyd's lead player.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 11:30 PM
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5. If Syd was still in the band, Pink Floyd would stink.
Have you never smelled a rotting corpse?

:yoiks: :rofl:
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:33 PM
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7. As much as I liked Syd sadly if he would have stayed they in no way
would have been as successful in my opinion as they were. I do wish he would have went on to have a good solo career putting out more hit singles such as Terrapin, See Emily Play, Arnold Layne, No Good Trying and Bike. Maybe he could have had a very good solo career the way Peter Gabriel did after he left Genesis.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:51 PM
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9. I wouldn't have liked them near as much............
Edited on Sun May-08-11 12:53 PM by CrownPrinceBandar
I figure they would have gone in an entirely different direction had Syd stayed with the band, and wouldn't have become as iconic as they are. Syd was groundbreaking for the time, but it was the tension/interplay between Roger and David that made the Pink Floyd sound that I came to love. Albums like Animals and The Wall may not have been made because it seemed like Roger was very enthralled by Syd and didn't spread his wings like he did after Syd left. I also think the separation was better for Syd and his metal health issues.

edit: grammar
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:56 PM
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11. I believe that is exactly what would have happened. Roger and David
had a special magic about them that complemented each other like Lennon and McCartney.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:17 PM
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12. Yup. I think so too. And they wouldn't have been my favorite band.
Which they are. :)
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:17 AM
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13. Many of their most wonderful songs would never have been written.
Barrett was wonderful in his way, but he was a better muse. And I agree they're one of the finest groups ever.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:30 AM
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14. They would have flamed out early and wouldn't have been nearly as influential
I don't think Barrett has a fraction of Gilmour's musical ability or depth. I know there are people who think that the first Floyd album is visionary and transcendent and all, but his eccentricities would have worn thin after a while.

He was no Brian Wilson...unless you compare him to Wilson-penned classics like "Do You Like Worms?"...A.K.A. "Roll Plymouth Rock"...from "Smile." But Wilson wrote a hundred Hall of Fame-worthy songs, and Barrett didn't write any.

DO YOU LIKE WORMS?
(by Brian Wilson and Van Dyke Parks)

Rock, rock, roll, Plymouth Rock roll over Rock, rock, roll, Plymouth Rock roll over

Bicycle rider, just see what you done, done to the church of the American Indian.

Wa-ha-la-lu-le,wa-ha-la-lu-lai,keeny-wa-ka-pu-la (repeat)

Once upon the Sandwich Isles
The social structure steamed upon Hawaii

Rock, rock, and roll, plymouth rock roll over

Ribbon of concrete, see see what you done, done to the Church of the American Indian

And as we returned to the East or West Indies
We always got them confused
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:55 AM
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15. He would have left the band at some point in the 1970's a la Peter Gabriel
and had a successful solo career.

Sticking with the Floyd pre-supposes his relative sanity.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:28 AM
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16. I feel sorry for the man but
he is one of the most over rated mystical figures in Rock history. The band improved 1000% when they ditched him.

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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:51 AM
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17. Bat-shit crazy does not equal Talent
Edited on Mon May-09-11 06:52 AM by Frank Cannon
As a huge Pink Floyd fan myself, I couldn't agree more. There are a lot of "geniuses" in this world who eventually never amount to squat because of their own self-destructive tendencies. Getting the work done competently is one of the requirements for being a successful artist, and poor Syd unfortunately proved himself unable to rise to that challenge.

It's too bad, because it seems like he must have been a very gifted, charismatic, and likeable guy prior to his meltdown. He certainly did leave an impression on Roger and David. And I heard that Rick Wright broke down in tears when Syd visited the studio while they were recording "Wish You Were Here", because he was just so mortified about what his friend had turned into.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:03 PM
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19. I'd pretty much have to concur.
The Syd Barret era Pink Floyd was quirky and unique--a lot of people would say visionary, but when you get right down to brass tacks David Gilmour was a quantum leap forward in the guitar department. And clearly the band's productivity really got on stable footing.

I just don't think they would have gotten nearly as far with Barret.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:29 AM
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20. I don't think so either Gilmour had alot more talent than Syd.
He taught Syd alot of techniques when they were teenagers together. He doesn't like to talk about it out of respect for the memory and the whole mystic surrounding Syd Barrett.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:42 AM
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21. Haha, so it would have been autobiographical? "Shine on you crazy diamond...."
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