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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 07:55 PM
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O'Donnel, since you do not understand tariffs.
Edited on Tue May-17-11 07:56 PM by RandomThoughts
Let me explain it.

You are seeing it as only money mattering.

Yes a tariff will raise the price on goods, becuase cheaper goods made by exploiting labor, will be taxed.

If a country does not have values we agree with as a people, we charge extra to equalize the difference that lack of values used in that production causes.


If you can make something cheaper by 10% by using exploited labor, or pollution, then you charge 10% on those goods to level the playing field.

It is to stop race to the bottom.

It is not all about money.



Then when things cost 10% more in the USA, the companies that do have unions, democracy, and things like pollution controls and fair labor practices can compete with countries not doing those things.


That is why there are tariffs, to stop race to the bottom. And I still have an issue with the use of race to the top, if it is being used to bust up unions, and not for what it is for. There has to be a stopping of the concept that the price of goods is all that matter, and that requires things like tariffs, and educating the population why some forms of productions are taxed. Something you are not doing by not understanding tariffs, or lying for corporate controlled money first system.

Free trade is only free in that it is all about money. Do you see the irony.


Although I have explained many things you have not mentioned, you don't get the last word for completely ignoring the entire topic of tariffs to only see money.


Can you comprehend the reason for such a thing? Or do you not discuss stopping race to the bottom becuase you believe in it?



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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:08 PM
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1. Very good, maybe we can email it to her campaign. She seems to be as open minded as...
Edited on Tue May-17-11 08:09 PM by freshwest
A barn that lost all its horses.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:19 PM
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2. I think this is aimed at Lawrence O'Donnell, right RT?
He went off on Trump's threat to charge a 25% tarriff on Chinese goods.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:25 PM
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4. It was not 'aimed'
Edited on Tue May-17-11 08:28 PM by RandomThoughts
Although it was about him commenting on that with no concept of tariffs.

Nothing against him, just like when I commented on the ridiculousness of birther issue I was not commenting on the Trump guy.

I like the guy, he just got trapped when they put the birther issue into the same area as a tariffs supporter, so he dislikes trump, and goes after tariffs. without thinking about tariffs.




The problem is Trump is right on Tariffs, so they had him go birther, to slam the ideas like tariffs, mostly its psyops.





If it was an aimed 'thing' that would be something else. It is a truthful statement the oligarchy does not want you to know.

And if I went around aiming at people on TV, heh, well thats another story.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:14 PM
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5. Well, yeah, I didn't mean it like that. I meant what you meant.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:16 PM
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6. Ah, no cable. I meant the one he didn't mean, but the one I meant. Too late to delete now. *sigh*
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 09:50 PM
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7. Yea, thanks for the post on that.
Aimed is just a harsh use of lingo, so wanted to comment on that.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-11 08:21 PM
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3. That was the O'Donnel on MSNBC
I could make a few comments, but the media comment is a long comment, with many paths, and only a very few that work out well, so better to think on it then comment on it.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 09:18 AM
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8. Um, dude, this is the Lounge ...
Did you get lost?

:hi:

Bake
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 12:12 PM
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9. How come i can uderstand you today?
Is it me or you?
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