God this song is beautiful-Surf's Up-Beach Boys

zen_bohemian

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Tue May-24-11 10:21 PM
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God this song is beautiful-Surf's Up-Beach Boys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2_wBbS7I08

What a wonderful band but infighting, drugs, alcohol, mental illness, and a stage dad got in the way. I miss Carl and Dennis :(

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Amerigo Vespucci

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Tue May-24-11 11:04 PM
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1. That song really, really pissed off Mike Love.

I was watching a Beach Boys documentary and as we all know, once Brian dropped out of the touring band to stay home and write new material, the somngs became less about cars and girls and cars and girls and girls and cars and more about...well, more about the things Brian wanted to write about.

There was a lot of infighting over "Pet Sounds," for example...but what the other Beach Boys...especially Mike Love...took issue with was Brian collaborating with guys like Van Dyke Parks, co-author of the song "Surf's Up."

Love supposedly demanded to know what the song was about, and guys like Van Dyke Parks generally prefer to write the lyrics, not explain them.

The line that pushed Love over the edge was "Columnated ruins domino"...he supposedly yelled "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?"

:rofl:

:toast:

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zen_bohemian

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Tue May-24-11 11:19 PM
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2. haha! Gotta love Mike Love and his "don't F888 with the formula" attitude

cars, school, girls and surfing sold alot of records in the early days, but Brian was much bigger and had more talent than that. I guess that I could see Mike's point of view; he had alimony, child support, mortgage, and a lifestyle that he had to make sure he could pay for, and the music was much different than the older stuff, he was afraid they were going to go broke, he just didn't like that new age stuff, and he didn't really care much for ole Van Dyke ha. I like the older songs, but I love the era from Pet Sounds to Holland. My favorite album of all the BB's catalogue is Sunflower. Denny had the potential for a successful solo career. He had a song with Daryl Dragon "Sound of Free", it's one of my favorite songs by him.

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Amerigo Vespucci

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Tue May-24-11 11:34 PM
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3. Yeah, Sunflower is one of those "great lost classic" albums

I always thought it should have been much, much bigger than it was.

Now, I am going to assume from what you've written that you know the "Legacy" CD release of Dennis' solo album "Pacific Ocean Blue" contained the salvageable tracks from his never-released second album, "Bambu."

If not, here 'tis...but for everyone else, "Pacific Ocean Blue" made a MASSIVE impression on critics, because it was much stronger than the actual Beach Boys material being released at the same time. The Beach Boys even included "River Song" on "Ten Years Of Harmony," a double-vinyl release that's now sold as a single CD. To my knowledge, it remains the ONLY time a Beach Boys solo track made it onto a Beach Boys compilation album.

The details:

Pacific Ocean Blue & Bambu - 2 CD Deluxe Legacy Edition

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Ocean-Blue-Bambu-Deluxe/dp/B001AMTY54/

1. River Song 3:46
2. What's Wrong 2:25
3. Moonshine 2:29
4. Friday Night 3:13
5. Dreamer 4:24
6. Thoughts Of You 3:05
7. Time 3:35
8. You And I 3:26
9. Pacific Ocean Blues 2:39
10. Farewell My Friend 2:27
11. Rainbows 2:49
12. End Of The Show 2:59
13. Tug Of Love (Previously Unreleased) 3:50
14. Only With You (Previously Unreleased) 3:59
15. Holy Man (Instrumental, Previously Unreleased) 4:27
16. Mexico (Previously Unreleased) 5:35
17. Under The Moonlight (Previously Unreleased) 3:57
18. It's Not Too Late (Previously Unreleased) 4:34
19. School Girl (Previously Unreleased) 2:31 $0.99
20. Love Remember Me (Previously Unreleased) 4:05
21. Love Surrounds Me (Previously Unreleased) 3:42
22. Wild Situation (Previously Unreleased) 2:42
23. Common (Previously Unreleased) 3:35
24. Are You Real (Previously Unreleased) 3:38
25. He's A Bum (Previously Unreleased) 2:50
26. Cocktails (Previously Unreleased) 3:02
27. I Love You (Previously Unreleased) 2:03
28. Constant Companion (Previously Unreleased) 3:22
29. Time For Bed (Previously Unreleased) 3:08
30. Album Tag Song (Previously Unreleased) 3:46
31. All Alone (Previously Unreleased) 3:44
32. Piano Variations On Thoughts Of You (Previously Unreleased) 3:03
33. Holy Man (Taylor Hawkins Version)

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zen_bohemian

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Wed May-25-11 06:17 AM
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7. Yep, this is a real gem

It's a shame he died so soon :(

My favorite on this one is River Song and Farewell My Friend, the song was about Carl's father-in-law, Otto Hinsche, Dennis was close to him.

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pacalo

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Tue May-24-11 11:53 PM
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4. My perspective from reading Brian Wilson's autobiography "Wouldn't It Be Nice" is that Mike Love

was a bully & first-class jerk. Brian had his problems with mental illness, but clearly he had a heart of gold. He is a genius.

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Amerigo Vespucci

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Wed May-25-11 12:22 AM
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5. Steven Gaines' "Heroes & Villains: The True Story Of The Beach Boys"...

...one of the single greatest rock music bios ever written.

Love was a thug who liked to hide behind an aura of mysticism, with all of the TM and Maharaishi stuff, but he also liked to punch women.

I remember a clip of Brian goofing around in recent years, singing the opening lines to "California Girls" in a PERFECT Mike Love imitation...he cracked himself up doing it, and it was dead on.

I don't think there could have been a "Beach Boys" without Mike Love...Brian would have taken that genius and done something else with it, I'm sure...but for all of Love's songwriting and performing talent, he had a lot to learn about being a decent human being.

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zen_bohemian

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Wed May-25-11 06:43 AM
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9. my copy of HV is getting worn ha, I have read it a few times

It was the first BB bio that I had read, and it was pretty jaw-dropping, couldn't put it down, I had no idea of all the problems the band had going on over the years. "The Nearest Faraway Place" is also a good book.

Mike was the king of "the hook", where Brian had the real musical talent. Wonder if Mike is still doing TM. I had to LOL at some of the concert footage, especially when they were in Europe, he was dressed like the Maharaishi...then there was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame speech, where ML make a complete arse out of himself, how embarassing it was for the other guys that night.

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zen_bohemian

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Wed May-25-11 06:30 AM
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8. I just love Brian, musical genius indeed

I read "Wouldn't It Be Nice" a couple of years ago, good book. I read the first few pages of it, and I got the feeling right away that Brian had some contribution to the book, but most of this book was written by Dr. Landy. I had just finished "Heroes and Villains" a few months before, this is a good book too.

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raccoon

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Wed May-25-11 09:13 AM
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11. I've heard that too about WOULDN'T IT BE NICE, that most of it was written by Landy.

IMO, HEROES AND VILLAINS is the best bio of the Beach Boys.

Oh, and CATCH A WAVE is good too.

They are my favorite group.

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abq e streeter

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Wed May-25-11 12:40 PM
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12. Landy comes out being just a teensy bit too heroic a figure in this, even though it's still

an interesting read.......I also have always assumed that if not written in large part by Landy, you get the feeling he was at the very least,making sure he came out sounding like the knight in shining armor he was portrayed as. I'll have to look for the other books mentioned in this thread.
From another huge Beachboys fan ...And yeah, Brian certainly is a melodic and harmonic genius.

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abq e streeter

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Wed May-25-11 01:39 AM
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6. One of very very few songs, for which calling it beautiful might be an understatement

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zen_bohemian

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Wed May-25-11 06:48 AM
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10. +1000

I have always thought of the song as a work of art. The child/father/man towards the end is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I have heard.

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