Why did Random Thoughts get expelled? PM me if you want. nt

:rofl:

LOL.....

I am not sorry to say, but that is one DU'er that I just won't miss.

There is a fine line between being esoteric, clever and sublime and just plain nuts. He danced on that line, clearly leaning to one side more than the other.

if he was asked politely twice to 'knock it off' and he said 'fuck off' to both requests (including the owner) well not much can be done about that.

I enjoyed him. I'll miss him.

But the manner of his leaving? No outrage whatsoever.

at times.

looks like Skinner showed him what "fuck off" means and I don't blame him.

anyway, sad. I found him amusing too.

Some older guy with gray hair and a curious expression on his face.
I have to admit, there were times when I could read one of his posts 20 times and still not have a clue what he was talking about.

From a Twilight Zone episode entitled "The Obsolete Man." Pretentious in a self-effacing kind of way.

I always wondered who that pathetic looking man was. I thought he looked like Burgess but in conjuction with RAndom Thoughts ramblings it was down right depressing.

Burgess Meredith . . . The Obsolete Man

but after that just scrolled right over him.

Not because I found him offensive or obnoxious, but because I got tired of starting to read his posts thinking they actually had something to say, trying to puzzle it out, and then realizing halfway through that I had wasted my time once again.

reveal itself...and you can hear the faint knocking and banging of fists against the keyboard. If you look at it close enough, you may want to forget about it if only for a moment, then it is gone.


My kitchen is dirty right now, but all I do is daydream about plastic and highway construction


I like apple pie

You caught his nonsensical fake-deepness spot on.

:thumbsup:

You forgot "beer and travel money are due" though.

:D

random as he liked to pretend.

I can't think of anything more direct than "fuck off."

He deserved to be banned.

He always seemed to me to know exactly
what he was doing.

for those who missed it & care...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=9726782

And I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.

"You only say that because you think how otters see rainbows is a normalized experience". :eyes:

I don't think his posts had any weight or merit, nor were they the result of some kind of inner, super-deep insight that the rest of can only dream about.

I think he posted intentionally nonsensical shit in an effort to appear to be the deeply thoughtful, outside-thinker he wanted us to think he was. Like Chance the Gardener, except Chance came by it honestly.

Good riddance.

Ass.

There are several ball point pens here...what should I do to this windowsill I don't particularly care for?




















cardboard is the answer, but the extension cords are always getting in my way


edited to add: shoe

:rofl:

Damn! edited to change ; to :. Damn keyboard.

as though to say "RELEASE ME FROM THIS TORMENT OF FINGERS"!!! For I know not where they have been..

This wall keeps staring at me...what shall I say to it? Hello, wall? It just doesn't feel right for me to say that...

I like blueberry pie

:rofl:

greater....perhaps Fruit Loops? We may never know, but air conditioners are the answer to everything


I like cherry pie

of the posts in GD and GDP.

:thumbsup:

Just consider the possibility that Random has/had a traumatic brain injury which was gradually getting more severe.

That's how I figured it.

Could be wrong.

He was just nuts.

& annoyed the hell out of others. Or . . .
all of the above in this thread & the other one.
Whenever I took the time to try to follow his tracks
in a post, even when I lost the trail, somehow I always felt
freer in my mind afterwards. But I understand how his posts
irritated folks & got under their skin.

Sometime nonsense is just that.

Nonsense. And not worth the bandwidth it takes to display it.

As I said above, "There is a fine line between being esoteric, clever and sublime and just plain nuts."

it doesn't seem like they would have generated such
an array of responses from folks here, pro & con.
I always thought his main point
was that people often have automatic black-and-white responses
based on attitudes and impulses that they aren't
aware of, and that the truth is more subtle, complex, and
troublesome. That kind of thinking might not be popular on a
partisan political board where opinions are often quick &
strong & fixed. Me, I simply felt a kinship with
his oddness & (usually) gentle contrariness. I don't
pretend to know what he meant all the time, but when I
didn't I chalked it up to my inability to follow rather than his
inability to express himself. I suspected clarity even
when I couldn't find it. Maybe I was too generous or
naive. I felt like I could have had an interesting conversation
with him face-to-face, but of course I could have been wrong.
Again, it may be my own failing, but there aren't that
many online people I would really be curious to meet in person.
He was one. Peace.

I've done more than my share of reading and editing authors and poets who aim for depth via obscurity and pretentiousness. RT had all the hallmarks of these people. His one-note replies will not be missed by me.

about him. I'm sorry he's not here anymore too. I miss him.

You can hurt someone and not even know it
The next sixty seconds could be like an eternity
Gonna get low down, gonna fly high
All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie
I’m in love with a woman who don’t even appeal to me"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo

Is there some mental health test that we should take in order to be able to post on DU?

Should nuts be allowed to post?

How do we determine "nuts"?

That's the answer to your first question.

"Should nuts be allowed to post?"

Well, yeah, I suppose, as long as they don't break any rules. Why not?

"how do we determine "nuts"?"

Simple. See post # 14 for a perfect example of nuts. And yes, #14 is being facetious. If a person is well and truly nuts, it doesn't take long for it to come out.

Anyone who is willing to abide by the rules set up by the owners of this website is free to post anything they wish. No one is obligated to read it nor are they required to respond and we all have the Hide Thread option as well as the Ignore member option.. For the record, I never ONCE alerted on anything Random Thoughts said (though a post or two of mine in response to his nonsense were deleted) and I quite frankly didn't give two shits about the guy. He was a nut, as far as I was concerned and I have enough nuts to deal with in real life. There are plenty of perfectly rational, lucid and sane people that post regularly on DU that I have become friendly with over the years. Why on earth would I want to concern myself with a person CLEARLY not dealing in the same reality as I am? It's like trying to have a rational discussion with someone who actually thinks some nefarious "corporate bastards" (from a while ago, btw on a thread here in the Lounge) are contemplating harvesting the water found on the moon and transporting it back here to Earth to sell.

It's a waste of time, and I just don't have the patience for such nonsense anymore.

I choose to spend it so, I totally understand that concept. There may have been some diamonds with him but, I got tired of digging through all the coal to find them.

I have people in real life who have issues with which I have to deal.

I come to DU (especially the lounge) to get away from it.

kind of surprised they have let this thread stay up . . .

that beer and travel money stuff, seems a bit post bob-dobbs to me

maybe he was just a very talented mentally ill person (a "nut") but i think he was actually entertaining himself and knew exactly what he was doing

by the way, i wouldn't mind some beer and travel money myself, ha ha

pretty much. yeah.

why is this a reason to allow him to stay?

I mean really, he's not losing some right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - he just lost the ability to post here.

If I lost that ability, it really wouldn't mean all that much in the full scope of things.

he got his beer and traveling money before he left.

And is responsible for the degradation of glycosaminoglycans such as heparan, dermatan, and chondroitin sulfates.

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I have a long way to and I'm due pop and burger per diem.

Nice!

and thought DU was the biggest fish of all.

Skinner sharked his ass.

however, this is not to say that the guy did not have his lucid moments and nanoseconds of brilliance.

meh.

Someone in GD said that RT was writing a book. :rofl:

with the beer and traveling money nonsense and the contrived word salads. While it's possible that he was crazy, I think he was just a pretentious ass who was amusing himself by trying to convince others that he was obscurely profound. He wasn't.

I felt a bit sorry for him.

& Have a friendly game or Two.

They were total nonsense.

He didn't make any sense. Mental illness, perhaps.

I got SICK of reading "I am due beer and travel money and many experiences."

but he was unusual and had the remarkable ability to loose associate, whether as a symptom or by artifice. He seemed to be getting more and more paranoid, which worried me a bit, and his flameout might have been inevitable. Or, he got tired of the performance and went out in a blaze of beer and travel money.

I miss him. He never said bad things about small children or started a fight over whether Obama is the worst leader of a country since Adolf Hitler.

however toward the end, for whatever reason, he was spamming this place (many forums). and to tell Skinner to fuck off is . . . .

rude and stupid.


Someone in GD had evidently PM'd with RT and said that RT was writing a book. I wish I could remember what DUer said that.


I used to hustle pool back in the day and I recognized some of his antics.


I had no issue with him as a poster, per se but, if he can't abide by the rules then I don't see where Skinner had any choice but to TS him.

:shrug:

Book? Coherent book?

only time would tell . . .

:rofl:

:shrug:


wish I could find the link to the thread where it was discussed and wish I could remember the DUer that said it.

a couple of posts every now and again, I kind of got where he was headed. in a 3am, very drunk, solve the world's problems sort of way.

and there were flashes of brillance amongst the bullshit

sometimes, I wondered if I may have seen him in a pool hall somewhere along the way

meh.

takes all kinds, I guess.

Or a bar with a single quarter(s) table. And he is the guy every one of the regulars has recognized as being a fucking nutcase. The only reason you noticed him, is because he was winning using flash and ridiculous strategy for 3 or 4 games, being loud and incoherent before my name or quarters came up and I beat his ass like it was tied to a post, shut him up and then you and I had a pleasant game or two before I left and gave you the table.

THAT'S why you wonder if you have seen him in a pool hall. He is that guy. The one before me.




The fucking nut you were glad to see leave.

:shrug:

He would be too busy hustling his game. We would have a kept a polite, professional distance from each other, I think.

but, I can see him working his shtick (stick) at another table . . . anything is possible.

Haven't shot pool in many years.

And I've played him, or those like him, many MANY times. They impress everyone. They shoot well. Make impressive shots. Nice thin cuts and hard banks. They make comments on the news that are just....so...OUT there. Or they quote obscure lyrics from the 60's. And just as they are convinced they have everyone in the place, be it a hall or a bar, intimidated, I clean his clock.

Yes, he "worked" the same tables. So did I. It's just that I was quiet, to the point, polite and lucid.

And I still beat his (or the likes of his) ass. Every time.

Whether or not he was a pool player or a hustler or whatever is beside the point. He's gone and I say, Goodbye to bad rubbish.

And FWIW, I never was a hustler, or anything of the sort. I don't bet or gamble on pool. I just enjoyed, and still do, beating the crap out of strangers in a game of 8-ball in bars and halls who think they have it going on. Most that think that way, don't. Including me. I know my limitations as well as my abilities.

I had a partner who handled that end of it and gave me a cut at the end of the night. I never knew (never wanted to know) what the bet was and never made side bets on single shots. I just shot pool.

and you are right, his type was in the pool halls and that is the point I am trying to make . . .

a lot of people here see him as a rarity

you and I know better.

There was always ONE in every pool hall and juke joint.

and yes, there were fun to take down.

Just as Monty Python's "Holy Grail" is a test of sorts. You either get it or you don't, and even if you get it, you don't quite get it.

I just know that I'd rather be one who tries to get it than with those who suspect some kind of con.

Some may validly see it as "loose associate" while others may (just as validly) see it simply as nonsense. I don't really perceive criticism of that as negativity... :shrug:

I think you're supposing he could help it and I'm supposing he couldn't, and we'll never know. And I know it rubbed some the wrong way. He sure as heck has gotten us having some interesting conversations, though.

We're here because the world is cooking, the economy crumbling, and the president capitulating, and amid all the chaos, there's this weird motherfucker gently rambling.

He was like the Tom Bombadil of DU.

I interpreted his stuff to mean that in spite of all the fuss and furor in the world from those who are trying to take away the dignity and comfort of daily life, there is a constant. We are due something. Might as well be beer and travel money and many experiences.

No, he did not always make sense. But i spent the last half of the 60s and the first half of the 70s in a hallucinagen induced fog so crazy and loose associations do not particularly bother me. Telling Skinner to fuck off was not a nice thing to do. I do however devoutly believe that we all are due beer and travel money.

ordered up a pizza & then had two long-ass threads
about him/her that went on & on unlocked with only one
deleted post between them? Folks can't stop talkin' about a
strange cat, even if many got nothin' good to say. I
hope he's enjoying this, because I believe that whatever
he was up to, conman, homemade linguist, loon, trickster, or
lost wandering soul, he was often having a better time
than most. Tip of the hat, RT.

So if you're reading this, RT, :toast:

can't really add anything but :toast:

:toast:

It seems to me that most reasonable people would be able to discern that the actions that got him tombstoned were pointless (unless, I guess, maybe they made him feel better somehow) and unproductive and would result in getting tombstoned.

The first post of his I ever read got me pretty concerned for him:

"If all someone knew about the spiritual was the most often told story, like the beginning stories.

And they were in terrible confusion, being distracted or confused,
And they were trying to be seen,
where would you find them."

I hope he is ok.

"If all someone knew about the spiritual was the most often told story, like the beginning stories.

And they were in terrible confusion, being distracted or confused,
And they were trying to be seen,
where would you find them."

Then again, I see a circumstantial beauty in "Fuck off."

We both hope he is OK.

...that he omit his sig line. He did that. In what is said to be his last post before TS.

grasswire....He did comply with the rules...in his last post(s).

I miss him...I loved him.

RT...if you're out there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukUetw0hAM&ob=av3n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0bI82Rz_k&ob=av3e
:loveya:

peace, love, memories~

:spray:

Someone once posted that his words were gibberish. The post was deleted, but......
I wrote a quick reply....something rare for me to get into...and it was just a stream of words.
Or was it? I made sense to me...I could never compare myself to Random Thoughts.

My reply:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=9493263&mesg_id=9493421

Although I didn't post the song link:

Taste and Try Before You Buy-Savoy Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNyzrOM5RR4

I miss Random Thoughts.
I think he was a free spirit....
Different....a wordsmith..
They are rare....
Not always understood....but very cool.


It's easy to put others down when they are different.

I will always believe that he was due beer, travel money and many experiences.
I hope it comes soon.....

I wish him peace & joy as well~



peace~