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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:29 PM
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Just saw "I am sam" With Sean Penn
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 07:31 PM by Kamika
He so deserved the oscar for that movie.

I dont like movies like this because they make me so emotional i get too uncomfortable but i had to watch this one..

If you dont know what its about, Sean is a mentally handicapped guy fightin for the custody for his 7 year old daughter.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:32 PM
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1. I am watching memento
Very wierd movie but it does makes sense.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:34 PM
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5. Guy Pearce is hot
my favorite actor.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:36 PM
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6. he is?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 07:36 PM by sujan
:evilgrin:

I was staring at the Matrix actress.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:32 PM
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2. I wanted him to win, too
Though I thought Denzel did all right in Training Day, as well. Sean was better, though, because he had a tougher part to play.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:33 PM
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3. I LOVE that movie
The soundtracks great 2.

You're right, he deserved the oscar.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:18 PM
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16. Isn't it?
The soundtrack is incredible- all Beatles covers.

I'll fourth or fifth it- Sean Penn absolutely deserved the Oscar. I think Hollywood was overcompensating for all the criticism they had been getting about giving Oscars disproportionately to whites.

Don't get me wrong- Halle Berry, without question, deserved the Oscar for Monster's Ball. But Denzel- he was alright and it was an alright movie. Just not Oscar material.

.02
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:19 PM
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17. I think he'd deserved the oscar for other movies
and they were compensating for not giving it to him earlier.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:28 PM
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20. Denzel already had one
An Oscar, I mean. I think for Philadelphia.

Sean Penn IS one of the best actors of our time and he has zero.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:07 PM
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25. The Academy is "fair".....
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 11:09 PM by tjdee
He'll get one, I think. His problem is that he's not really part of the schmoozing and lobbying that goes on. I've not seen this film, so I can't comment on his performance.

The Academy has a history of "making things right", which I appreciate to a point. They screwed Whoopi for the Color Purple, she gets one for Ghost. They screwed Denzel for The Hurricane, he gets one for Training Day. They never gave Charlie Chaplin one, they give him a "special" one.

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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 11:39 AM
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30. But wouldn't it be nice
If they actually rewarded actors/movies based on the quality of the acting/directing, etc.?

It's more of this "The person who we think should win, wins." Or the person whose turn it is or whatever. We seem to have let go of the "Let the best man win" principle.

I had forgotten about The Hurricane. That was a really good movie, so maybe they were making up for that, too. :shrug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:33 PM
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4. yes it`s not bad
sean did a good job on this movie..it`s a tear-jerker that`s for sure..
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44wax Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:43 PM
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7. My learning disabled students liked the movie
These are hard ass street kids too. Some wanted to watch it more than once.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:47 PM
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8. dumb movie
Actors who play retarded or slow people shouldn't win awards. It's a really easy thing to imitate.

Plus the movie on a whole wasn't that great, not one of the best Sean Penn movies I've seen. And I like Sean Penn.
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orangecoloredapple Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:49 PM
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9. I don't think so
it is not so easy to convey the sense of confusion that they fight to overcome daily. The ones I have seen deserve some kind of medal for not giving up. Sean Penn is this country's greatest actor, and this was an excellent movie.

Not to mention the best soundtrack!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:52 PM
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10. I have to say, the best I have ever seen
was Leonardo in Gilbert Grape. He was OUTSTANDING.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:53 PM
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11. that, I'll agree with
or Billy Bob Thornton in Sling Blade
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orangecoloredapple Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:57 PM
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12. Billy Bob did a good job writing, acting etc
and it was a one of a kind movie, but it didn't try to express what DD people have to go through - in a realistic way. Most live their lives with assistance from others, get frustrated, get happy, get confused - but they respond to love like you wouldn't believe. They can tell when someone truly cares about them.

SlingBlade was a good movie - better than good - but it didn't express as I Am Sam did, what people go through and how they react.
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orangecoloredapple Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:06 PM
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13. He did a great job
but he had a great screenplay and great actors around him. Even the momma (sorry, can't remember her real name, but know she's not around anymore) and the stage-left characters did a great job. A memorable movie.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:17 PM
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26. Darlene Cates?
I don't think she's dead but I haven't seen her on screen for some time.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:27 PM
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19. I agree
The actors who do it well make it look easy. I think it would be extremely difficult to make it believable.

Do you guys remember the scene when Sam is speaking with two guidance counselors or social workers? He draws a parallel between what they are trying to tell him and Yoko Ono?

Something to the effect of:

Everybody always blames Yoko Ono for splitting up the Beatles, but in reality, John and Paul were were growing apart and they wanted to try new things. Annie says you can first hear it on the White Album. It wasn't Yoko's fault.

They give him blank stares, but I knew exactly what he meant. I first saw the movie with 2 pretty straight-laced friends. I said out loud, sympathizing with Sam, "Ohhhh. They aren't Beatles fans." :-(

My friends looked at me and laughed- I think one called me a hippie.
:hippie:
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:08 PM
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14. I dont think it was dumb
I got really touched.. i hate movies like these :(
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orangecoloredapple Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:10 PM
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15. I'm sure Magic Rat's a good person
but why put a title on a thread about DD people that begins with "dumb" unless your looking for a rise in blood pressure?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:24 PM
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18. i didn't mean it like that
Okay...it's a average...to below average movie

:)
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:29 PM
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21. Ha! LOL!
:D
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:31 PM
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22. hmm
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 08:32 PM by newsguyatl
maybe i'll check it out then... having an autistic brother, i was hesitant to watch it just because it hits close to home, but i'll have to check it out...

and unlike certain others on this thread, i think accurately portraying mentally handicapped people must be quite a feat... some of the best acting i've seen (dustin hoffman/rain man and leonardo/gibert grape) involved these characters...
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:32 PM
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23. fantastic movie...
recommend highly, michele pfieffer was great too. really choked me up. the girl who played the daughter was great too. laughed and cried.
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:47 PM
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24. I thought that was one of the most...
cliche-ridden films I've ever seen. Typical man vs. the machine type of the thing. Of course the little girl was beautiful and a genius, and all the lawyers were just heartless. I could barely stand to finish it.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:23 PM
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27. Yeah so cliche
People never really get fucked over by child services.

:eyes:
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MissouriTeacher Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:59 PM
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29. I meant more in terms of the characters
and their attitudes not the plot itself.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:56 PM
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28. It might have won an Oscar as a twenty minute short...but
the story dragged in feature length. Very drawn out.

The little girl is amazing though. Reminds me of a young Drew B.

(She was also in that alien/ufo miniseries and is in another upcoming film.)

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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 12:00 PM
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31. "She was also in that alien/ufo miniseries..."
You mean the miniseries "Taken". :shrug: She was really good in that (if that's the one you mean) :)
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