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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 05:59 PM
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MOBY endorses John Kerry

http://www.wiretapmag.org/story.html?StoryID=16537

" As evidence of being hip to youth, John Kerry's campaign pointed to the endorsement of electronic musician Moby (who likes Dean but thinks Kerry is more elect-able). "

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:00 PM
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1. hmmm interesting I like Kerry as opposed to Dean

both are more electable imo.

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ThorsteinVeblen

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:11 PM
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2. Moby is not "Youth"

The guy is 40 years old.

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w4rma

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:52 PM
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14. Moby was born Richard Melville Hall in New York City in 1965

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/bio.asp?oid=1603

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:57 PM
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16. that would make him 38 at most.

and it turns out you learn something everyday. Moby is related to Herman Melville, writer of Moby Dick, *laughs at self* I get it now, Moby, lol thats pretty cool.

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ThorsteinVeblen

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:02 PM
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18. Okay

Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 07:03 PM by ThorsteinVeblen

So he's pushin' 40. He is still not the "Youth".

http://www.readlyrics.com/lyrics/display.php?ID=2479

Eminem - Without Me

And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie,
You 36 year old bald headed fag blow me
You don't know me, you're too old
Let go, it's over, nobody listens to techno

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:06 PM
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19. Thorstein it never says that Moby is the youth

" As evidence of being hip to youth, John Kerry's campaign pointed to the endorsement of electronic musician Moby (who likes Dean but thinks Kerry is more elect-able). "
I dont listen to Moby but then again I dont listen to techno but I do have one friend who does like Moby a bit. I really dont give a damn about what Emimem has to say, the guy is like a replica of my little brother in many ways imo. If you think the youth dont listen to people older than 38 thats wrong. I see your intepretion but I dont think that was what the Kerry camp meant.

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ThorsteinVeblen

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:15 PM
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23. John Kleeb - Yes it does, look at the first post

" As evidence of being hip to youth, John Kerry's campaign pointed to the endorsement of electronic musician Moby (who likes Dean but thinks Kerry is more elect-able). "

Eminem (and your little brother) is the youth. The youth does not like Moby.

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 08:15 PM
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32. you see to different people different things are cool

My brother likes emimem I dont and many of my friends dont, him and his friends however do. Its just preference.

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:31 PM
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35. i love eminem and moby

but my little girl wont be listening to Eminem till at least 16

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:36 PM
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36. heh looks like you are smarter than my folks

Jerky aka my brother has been listening to him for a while.

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:49 PM
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37. its just common sense, the stuff he says is tougne and cheek

only people who take themself WAY to seriously missed that

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:58 PM
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41. well in some ways my parents lol are fools

but they cant be that big fools can they? after all I am not at free republic now.

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:59 PM
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42. thank god, lol

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:49 PM
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38. its just common sense, the stuff he says is tougne and cheek

only people who take themself WAY to seriously missed that

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:49 PM
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39. its just common sense, the stuff he says is tougne and cheek

only people who take themself WAY to seriously missed that

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:52 PM
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sorry, stupid Internet Explorer was stuck

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 09:52 PM
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40. sorry, stupid Internet Explorer was stuck

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:25 PM
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3. whoever you are, your ignored, so i can't see your post

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:27 PM
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4. that's funny

he says Moby is 40 years old.

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:37 PM
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5. thats even funnier

cause the people who still listen to Moby are the ones who actually vote.

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:54 PM
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15. who cares what age Moby is really

Actually to my Emimem listening brother that would be a turn off because he hates Moby for some reason, oh yeah because he knows Emimem can be an ass Moby that is.

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:38 PM
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6. I Can't See Him Either! He Must Be Invisible!

And I don't mean Ralph Ellison, either!

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:40 PM
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7. imagine that?

Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 07:14 PM by SGrande

could it be someone following me from post to post again ?

:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:

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w4rma

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:46 PM
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10. I'm asking a moderator to have this post of yours removed, SGrande

for implying that Dean supporters are "hate spawning".

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DrFunkenstein

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:52 PM
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13. He Never Said "Hate Spawning"

It was "hate spewing," and he said "a," not that all Dean supporters spewed hate. But some of them are a little too quick to start a fight, aye w4rma?

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:12 PM
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21. no some dean posters are on fishing trips

to try and remove any and all people who are not "pure" supporters of Howard Dean.

Sounds a lot like 1940 to me?

But I have found the ultimate answer: ignore button.

I have ignored 5 people now, and I am happier for it because now I dont see their hatred and vicerol posts everywhere I go, i only see ignored

hehe :)

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:25 PM
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26. "have this ***post*** of yours removed" (n/t)

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:43 PM
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29. go fish!

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:24 PM
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25. Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 08:14 PM by SGrande (n/t)

Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 07:24 PM by w4rma

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Mon Aug-04-03 08:18 PM
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DrFunkenstein

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:49 PM
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11. I Guess We'll Never Know

x( :o :D

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:51 PM
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12. you have whoever on ignore well let me pm you and grande

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DrFunkenstein

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:42 PM
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8. Moby Does Ads For The Nation

I wonder who Russell Simmons is behind.

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JohnKleeb

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Mon Aug-04-03 06:45 PM
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9. I dont know who Simmons will come out for really

Someone who believes in social justice and has a legit chance, so I think Kerry maybe. What does Kerry think of the drug war? I know he says he may give medical pot a chance.

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blm

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:02 PM
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17. He thinks the science is there and that the legislation

is the only part that needs hammering out.

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RevolutionStartsNow

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:22 PM
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24. I saw Simmons on Charlie Rose

He's so impressive. And very passionate. Rose asked him what he thought of the Dems and he said he likes Sharpton very much but recognizes that the country's not ready. He wouldn't commit to any one of them, since he hasn't met or talked to them all yet.

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Laughing Mirror

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:48 PM
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31. Sharpton, no?

Sharpton spoke at the hip-hop conference
i can't think of any other presidential candidate that did
but, in the end, Simmons will more than likely support whoever Hillary supports

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DrFunkenstein

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Mon Aug-04-03 08:17 PM
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33. Isn't Hillary Hardcore DLC?

But I have a hard time thinking that the Clintons are not going to try to sabotage 2004, in order to set up 2008.

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:14 PM
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22. Full Quote & Context

But how seriously are the Democratic presidential candidates taking Millenials? We found the answer to be as expected: not very. Youth outreach efforts were routine and shallow. As evidence of being hip to youth, John Kerry's campaign pointed to the endorsement of electronic musician Moby (who likes Dean but thinks Kerry is more elect-able). Jano Cabrera, the 29-year-old spokesperson for the Joseph Lieberman campaign, made the usual noises on the subject. "People often say that the life blood of politics is youth," he said. "Never is this more true than on a presidential campaign."

In a literal sense, Cabrera is right. Campaigns rely on the labor of unpaid interns to man telephones, canvass neighborhoods, and stamp envelopes. Every campaign office we visited looked like a student union building, but instances of these young armies canvassing voters their own age were selective and few.

Youth outreach efforts were routine and shallow... A possible exception in this election is the Generation Dean venture.

http://www.wiretapmag.org/story.html?StoryID=16537

A possible exception in this election is the Generation Dean venture. Ginny Hunt and Michael Whitney, the project's young coordinators, said over 250 college chapters have been founded in every state except Nevada, and estimates of student "contacts" with the Dean campaign -- from chapter heads to donors -- is upwards of 4,000.

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SGrande

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Mon Aug-04-03 07:44 PM
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30. thats a joke

I was a SFD coordinator and I never did a damn thing, cause I was really busy. They think they talk to someone over e-mail a few times and forwards them on some links is creating a chapter?

hahaha

I got a bridge in brooklyn to sell the dean campaign too ...

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Kanola

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Tue Aug-05-03 12:20 AM
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43. I love Moby's music but he is not youth.

He is around my age (38).

Nevertheless, I am between Kerry and Dean. If Kerry gets the nomination I will gladly support him. As with Dean.

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George_Bonanza

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Tue Aug-05-03 01:43 AM
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44. Moby's not youth, but he's pop culture

And that's what's important I guess. I thought Moby would support Kucinich or something, since they're both vegans right, and we never had a vegan president. Oh well, I take this news with great pride, because Moby's a great musician.

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