Clark and Dean battle for Hollywood

Looks like Clark is cutting into Dean's Hollywood support

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5814-2003Oct9.html

From the article some of the stars, like Barbara Streisand, give to all the Dems and some have given to both Dean and Clark. How is that cutting into Dean's base?

Clark is definitely courting the stars and it's his right, but Prez campaigns are not CNN stints. Dean so far has a much deeper base than Clark and we are not all Hollywood stars.

eh! :yourock:

who will not allow me to worship any other god/goddess but them.

With Love from you Bast worshiping DU'er

Clark is definitely courting the stars and it's his right, but Prez campaigns are not CNN stints

and win 5 re-election bids.

Clark has no such credentials.

But who commits to helping fundraise.

Edited to add snippet:

Most major fundraisers and donors in California are remaining uncommitted, waiting to see how well the candidates do in the early jockeying, debates, polls and fundraising. But Clark's initial success has eaten away at some of Dean's potential support, especially in the Los Angeles area. According to many political activists there, Clark has supplanted Dean as the star attraction and the main focus of political attention, and Clark has won the likely backing of at least one prominent fundraiser, television director Norman Lear, who had been leaning toward Dean.

stop acting as if you do.

This is a nonissue to write about. They are looking for controversy where there is precious little.

It's true, that many of them give to several candidates. Many of the Hollywood crowd is staying out and reserving judgment. But some of them that were leaning Dean are now leaning Clark.

The key really is not getting the Hollywood people to donate (Barbara Streisand has donated to all of them), but rather getting them to help you fundraise, and tapping into their network.

In what many California activists described as a significant development, Eli Broad, a businessman and major philanthropist in the arts and education in the state and nationally, is supporting Clark and indicated he is likely to raise money for him. Broad, the activists said, gives Clark access to the California business community, which is substantially more moderate than the liberal entertainment community.

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One of Dean's early achievements on the West Coast was lining up movie director Rob Reiner, who has helped turn Dean into the Democratic candidate virtually certain to emerge with the strongest California financial backing when reports are filed with the Federal Election Commission on Oct. 15.

In Clark's case, in addition to enlisting Broad, and possibly Lear, the candidate has lined up a solid commitment from Peter Morton, founder and chairman of the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Inc. Morton said he plans to host a dinner for Clark in Las Vegas later this month and a November fundraiser in Los Angeles. Co-chairing the Los Angeles dinner with Morton are producers Jordan Kerner and Steven E. Tisch.

Whoever gets more people to commit to helping them fundraise will win. The bulk of the potential fundraisers are still uncommitted.

Hes a dick! I worked for him. Clark can have that pompous ass. If he suported dean it would would be a turn off for me. The guy fired people cause he didnt like thier hair cut for gods sake or if they werent smiling when he passed by. Fuck peter morton!

Peter morton, Barbara Streisand, liberals, conservatives, moderates, independent -- all. I may not agree with them, but I'll take their votes and help. We want a candidate that can attract a broad base.

You can have peter morton. I have dealt with the man and hes no Democrat. He is exactly the type I would expect to line up behind Wesley. I agree with inclusion but touting him as some great catch falls on deaf ears when I hear it. There was a time when i would have been impressed by it. Say when i first met him. However after actually seeing him work and watching him deal with people my opinion swung 180 degrees.

He is no hollywood star hes a guy that owns a hotel that Idolizes hollywood stars thats all. He is a decent buisness man though, His properties are well maintained and he insists on quality. But hearing that he suports wesley does not make me feel any better about wesley.

but I pride my campaign on getting Gene McCarthy's endorsement more so than "actors name here"

I'm glad he's getting endorsements. Kucinich is an honest man, wheter you agree with his politics or not -- just like Clark. If you'll recall, JohnKleeb, I was in a Kucinich thread urging his supporters on. It's a pity Kucinich some supporters can't find it in themselves to do the same for Clark.

You know, John, it's really not necessary to bash other candidates in order to build your own up (not saying that you are in this case). Being able to disagree and remain civil and supportive of the other guy is perfectly fine.

Good luck with Kucinich. (Even if you won't wish good luck to Clark -- maybe time will change your mind, and you'll see him for the great guy he is :))

and kucinich is for me!

It's good for democrats to spread the anti-bush message far and wide. Kucinich may be behind, but he has some interesting ideas. Keep supporting him. Good job. And thanks.

But if Kucinich withdraws (which I don't think he will), or is at 2% on the morning of the primaries, you might be able to cast the tie-breaking vote between the two front runners. And I hope you'll take a look at Clark and keep an openmind, even if you don't vote for him. I want you to support Clark because you feel about him the way we do, not because you were pressured into it or bashed into it. I believe two intelligent reasonable people can still have different opinions and stay civil. Which is why I stay out of the other candidate-bashing threads, and am annoyed at all the rabid anti-clarkers who won't accept a differenc of opinion.

Someone said that they were suprised by how many people out there (beyond the nonrepresentative DU) had Kucinich as a first choice, and Clark as a second. Or vice versa.

Kucinich is an honest man, even if you don't agree with his principles. Just like Clark. I would love Kucinich to be part of the cabinet if he doesn't get the nom. Good luck with Kucinich (and keep Clark in the back of your mind)!
:yourock:

by a Kucinich supporter to lay out why I feel Clark is a good candidate for Kucinich supporters to consider. This was after I popped into a Kucinich thread and cheered Kucinich supporters on and to keep the faith and not despair. My response:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=108&topic_id=52972&mesg_id=53301&page=