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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:05 PM
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Vermont is Hell
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 04:15 PM by drfemoe
"Published on Friday, October 17, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
Vermont Is Hell
by Marty Jezer

The picture on the cover of the October 13th issue of The National Review is of an idyllic Vermont farm scene. Scrawled across the picture in big bold type is the four-letter word, “Hell.” Republicans are supposedly licking their chops at the prospect of Howard Dean winning the Democratic nomination for President. They see him as the Democratic candidate easiest to beat. But, not willing to take any chances, Jonah Goldberg, an online editor of the National Review, has written a slanderous article on Howard Dean that ends up as an attack on Vermont as well.

Goldberg made “two recent trips” to Vermont. He visited Burlington and Montpelier where, he says, the State House displays portraits of “futsy old Vermonters.” He spoke to a couple of Republicans, a kid in a coffeehouse, and Hal Goldman, a lawyer who made his mark in Vermont arguing against civil unions. " ...
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edit: chickened out linking to NRO.. if you want the cover fix the link above


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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:07 PM
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1. Jonah Goldburg is an idiot
Now get me a picture of Jonah's house and I will show you hell. Look at Scrunton's article: TO BE FREE OF THE UN. Get me my bags yet again, these right wing nuts scare me.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:11 PM
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2. Isn't this the same
hot air balloon on The Daily Show recently. He was such an ass...I did something I never do w/ The Daily Show, I turned it off.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:12 PM
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3. Oh really? My state is hell, huh? That's news to me.
If this is hell, heaven must be perfection beyond anyone's ability to imagine.

Looks like the bonehead who wrote that article just gave Vermont Republicans yet another reason to cross over and vote for their favorite Democratic politician...Howard Dean.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:13 PM
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4. Nice cover.
Let's go ahead and slander an entire state and also discredit ourselves, shall we?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:16 PM
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5. National Review???
or "NAZIonal" Review???

Do we DUer's really think anything of this toilet paper rag? NO!!!!!
Most People do not even know that this rag exists.

Though to say that the "National Review" is a rag is offensive to the
hard working people at the "National Enquirer".
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:17 PM
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6. I went to college in Vermont
and it is the most kick ass state I have ever lived in! If my family wasn't in Illinois, Vermont is where I would raise my kids! Vermont is full of the nicest most tolerant people I have ever met.
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UnapologeticLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 07:24 PM
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16. I have only been there for one afternoon
The day of Dean's official declaration speech, back in June. But I got that same sense. I want to go back to New England when I graduate college (I was born in Massachusetts, though I moved to Jersey when I was two), and I am thinking Vermont might be the place to go. I would return to Massachusetts but I want to run for office someday and it would be hard in Massachusetts because there are too many Democrats. Vermont is a neat state because it is a liberal state but it does not have a huge Democratic establishment, because the party did not even exist in Vermont until 30-40 years ago and there are so many independent voters there that the Democratic establishment has never fully solidified.

Mousepads, Shoe Leather, and Hope
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:17 PM
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7. The right-wingers are always claiming that
New England states are hellish. Wonder what their ideal place is? Vermont is a great place like the other New England states. Beautiful country, neat houses and farms, laid-back people that have a good work ethic, good schools, good businesses that make quality products. What strange people the right-wingers are.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:24 PM
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8. I've never been
But I certainly never had a vision of New England as hell. If it weren't so packed with people, I would more likely consider living up there somewhere myself. What does this guy consider heaven, Texas???
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:28 PM
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9. His deluded mind heh
:evilgrin:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 10:37 PM
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18. Hey! Texas IS Heaven


Or at least it would be if Heaven had a massive deficit, crappy schools, and a desparate need for air conditioning. Ah, to hell with ya, I like living here.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:59 PM
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10. Oh yes, Vermont: That shithole
Just riddled with crime, drugs, unemployment, homeless people dirty air, polluted water, illegal immigration, overcrowding, huge budget deficits and millions without health care.

Oops! That's Texas! Maybe Jonah "The Chickenhawk" Goldberg should have visited Texas in 1999 to warn the rest of the nation.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:38 PM
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11. My thoughts exactly
If Vermont is hell, then I guess we're living in the Elysian Fields. For right wingers anyway. :eyes:

Oh and btw bluestateguy- you forgot the second largest prison population in the world, one of the most regressive tax systems in the country, and the second to worst school system in the US. So remind me again, why do we stay?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:18 PM
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12. One cannot come close to making a case that Vermont is hell.
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 06:20 PM by w4rma
Rural, small farms and small towns. That is Vermont. It's like what the South *used* to be but without the intolerance.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:21 PM
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13. Vermont can't be hell unless hell has at long last frozen over.
I mean, the tempature is all wrong for hell. It's a lot warmer in say, Crawford, TX. If I get to move anywhere in this life, I'm heading for New England if I can. I go up there often, sometimes to Vermont, and I just hate coming home.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 06:43 PM
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14. Ah, Vermont...
The first man I ever loved was from Vermont. He was in the Army, I was in High School, we met at a Crosby Stills and Nash concert in Augsburg, Germany. Sigh...
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UnapologeticLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 07:20 PM
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15. Someone put that on my door
Along with a large Bush-Cheney sign. Go here and here to see what they did and what I did about it.
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wdwilder Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:15 PM
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17. Nothing worse
than gays getting married and carrying loaded pistols in their pockets without needing a license from the state, right Jonah? You testicularly challenged son of an expanding gas powered bullet launcher you.
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