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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:47 PM
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Al Franken and the Fox Lawsuit/ What are the Real Motives?
Edited on Wed Aug-13-03 05:18 PM by Homer12
Do you think Fox has an ulterior motive for this lawsuit?

The only reason I ask is that: if you read the personal attacks against Franken in the suit, as well as the blatent character assasination of him in it.

Which of course is in the content of a legal document, this character assasination/slander, makes no sense. How can a legal document be taken seriously with all this inside, if its only purpose is to make its trademark case: Then why the slander?

If it is personnal vendetta it will hopefully in the court of law, it will be figured out pretty quick and the case will be thrown out.

Which makes sense since (not only this but the phrase "fair and balanced" was around, way before Fox bought it).

If this lawsuit is so obviously flawed against Franken (whom would have much evidence to counter Fox with the Franken/O'reilly war going on), then tell me WHY would Fox do this?

Do they want free publicity and advertising from their competitors as well?


Any ideas my fellow DU'ers?

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wwwunspunmediaorg Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:49 PM
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1. Complete BS
Of course its motivated by the fact that BIll O'Reilly is a sex slave to drag queen Ann Coulter and Ann has her ugly skirt in a knot over the fact that Al Franken is a helluva lot funnier than she'll ever be.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:52 PM
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5. OH, now I understand! Thank you. n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:51 PM
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2. Not sure
I think they're as out of touch with reality as their news is. Plus, I think O'Reilly wants revenge so bad he talked them into it.

I only hope that Franken gets some great lawyers and brings everything out about how they report the "fair and balanced news" in discovery. This could turn out to be like the libel suit brought by the Holocaust denier in England. Basically, a court could *rule* that Faux isn't fair and blanced.
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:51 PM
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3. Well, I certainly agree that it will be thrown out!
As to Fox's motives, I don't have the kind of mind that could understand such a crazy lawsuit, let alone Fox's reasons for filing it. They are obviously on Planet Fox and I don't want to go there, that's for sure!
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:52 PM
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4. My guess
is O'Reilly was so desperate to exact revenge on Al Franken that he threatened to walk out on Fox if they didn't sue him. O'Reilly is utterly thin-skinned, and the bizarre language in the lawsuit smacks of his style.

Just a theory, of course, and if this is the case then obviously it's completely backfired (ha ha!)

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:20 PM
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12. I hate to use the word,
but this proves that O'Reily is a grade-A "pussy".


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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:46 PM
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18. I agree.
O'Reilly is one sad, sad little man.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:53 PM
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6. O'really is behind this
Did you see how pissed he was when Franken caught him in the lies? He hates Franken.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 04:55 PM
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7. Al is definately getting the last laugh, the publicity has been great!
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:10 PM
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9. HaHa
O' Riley can dish it out

but he can't TAKE IT
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:09 PM
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8. The legal departments at Entertainment companies...
...are ruthless litigators when it comes to protecting what they claim to be their intellectual property. O'Reilly didn't need to convince anybody to file the suit, but I'm sure he had some hand in putting his "trademark" spin on the complaint.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:13 PM
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10. And this Spin...
Edited on Wed Aug-13-03 05:17 PM by Homer12
...will show the pettiness and vindictivness.

There is no way this wording can be thrown out in court in the orginal complaint.

This brings up the question of Motive?

And motive is ine of the main underling factors in law.

Franken's motive, was to satarize Fox News, which he did quite well.

His motive was not to copy Fox News, which will be proven quite easily.

Then what is Fox's motive? The language in the complaint is slanderous and vindictive, if it was just about trademark and property, then why the langauge?

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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 05:15 PM
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11. I really am not a grammar Nazi but it is "ulterior," not "alterior" motive
I just had a argument over this word yesterday when I dared correct a friend's use of "alt" instead of "ult." When I got out the dictionary and proved I was correct, he became even more angry.

The law-suit will help Franken. It has been fired by O'really's hubris and Faux's desire to scare people who may mock them.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 06:53 PM
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13. don't the simpsons
always poke fun at (mock) fox? Could it be they really are dense?
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:54 PM
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14. I am starting to think they are incredibly dense
I knew they were blinded by radical conservative ideology; but now the denseness is clear.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:49 PM
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19. That what I thought this was at first.
Something from the sinpsons. Can you believe it?

(news flash: 90% of democrats are gay :)
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nator311 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:27 AM
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15. funny thing
I caught the end of Neil Cavuto's show this afternoon. Basically he was complaining about how lawyers and lawsuits in this country.
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SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:40 AM
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16. This is Bill O'Really
looking for some love from the corporate master-I heard today on C-Span that HE is the one who initiated the suit-well he's the one who requested that Fox sue Al.He said it's all about loyalty and some other such nonsense.Friggin baby
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:43 AM
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17. Tom Tomorrow nails it on his blog today
"There’s always a point, with powerful people, be they movie directors or politicians or loudmouthed talking heads on cable tv, when they become too powerful, and there is no longer anyone around them in a position to tell them that their latest idea sucks, or that they are behaving like an ass. Everyone wants to keep their jobs, everyone wants to keep the boss happy. And so you end up with a closed feedback loop, and you have absolutely no idea how foolish you look to the rest of the world. It’s clear that Bill O’Reilly has reached this point. Congratulations, buddy."


Amen to that...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 10:48 PM
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20. And I can hardly wait....
... for the Saturday Night Live spoof.

Eleny
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jeff101967 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:48 PM
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21. Lawsuit
Interestingly enough, they are suing the Fauxnews Website behind the O'Rielly youth T-Shirts...

FOX also sued a bunch of Simpsons Fan sites, so this isn't a new tactic for them; but this is WAY over the top.

They are out of control!

JB
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