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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:20 PM
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Deficit of Pension Guarantor Hits Record $33.5 billion
Edited on Wed May-20-09 06:29 PM by steven johnson
The government has guaranteed much more than the can possibly pay for in the worst case scenerio.



The deficit at the federal agency that guarantees pensions for 44 million Americans more than doubled in the last six months to a record high, reaching $33.5 billion, largely as a result of the surging number of bankruptcies among companies whose pensions it must now take over.

The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation, as of October, had faced a shortfall of $11 billion. But the combined effect of lower interest rates, losses on its investment portfolio and the increase in the number of companies filing for bankruptcy protection resulted in a deepening of its estimated deficit, officials said Wednesday.

Because the agency has $56 billion in assets - most of which is invested in Treasury bonds - it is not facing any prospect of default in the short term, officials said.

"The P.B.G.C. has sufficient funds to meet its benefit obligations for many years because benefits are paid monthly over the lifetimes of beneficiaries, not as lump sums," the agency's acting director, Vince Snowbarger, said in a statementWednesday. "Nevertheless, over the long term, the deficit must be addressed."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052000778.html?hpid=topnews

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article;jsessionid=F5291F06DF2208134B0A35AA27C8A804.w6?a=365926&f=19



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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 06:24 PM
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1. It is interesting the the private sector cannot keep the promises it
made for pensions. This should be our example of why we need to save social security within the government and why we need a single payer health care program. Programs like these when issued by the private sector do not work.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:03 PM
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2. Pensions don't make sense in the private sector
They work kind of like ponzi schemes. You use contributions from current workers to pay retirees knowing that someday the future workers will contribute to the current workers' retirements.

But what if a company downsizes?

GM has something like seven retirees for every current worker.

You can't design any pension that would work under those conditions.

And companies have to be able to change themselves, sometimes quickly.

To a company the 401 (k) makes much more sense. The workers contribute. You match. When they leave your employ, you shake their hand, give them their 401 (k) money and never think of them again.

Companies with pensions have to have entire departments of people who do nothing but process returned pension checks because former workers have moved, died, gotten divorced, changed beneficiaries, etc. There are some companies where thousands of changes have to be processed every month.

If you make garden hoses, you don't want to employ too many people who aren't part of the making garden hoses proces. You can't afford too many people sitting in an office process changes for people who you haven't seen in 30 years.
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billac Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 07:48 PM
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3. We only need one "pension" -- Social Security
We should immediately move, as a country towards a scheme in which everyone is guaranteed a poverty-free income when they reach
retirement age.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:50 PM
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4. I agree
I suggest two immediate things to do to help social security be more sound

1. get rid of the cap on social security income.
2. Force every worker into social security
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